PG Thread: Excellent loss

[DOT]

idgaf who takes the bet it’s my bet I win regardless . I cheer for knox’s efficiency regardless I don’t need a bet as motivation.

If it's mine, I won't be as charitable as last time. That Bey one was pretty fly.

More interesting bet would be if he gets above .500 eFG, cause he's at .456 right now, and that's more an indicator of efficiency than pure FG%

Sent from my SM-G965U using RealGM mobile app

Yeah but we probably wouldn't win that one. He's put himself pretty far behind the 8-ball for that.

That's another thing too

I don't think it'll be too hard for him to raise his FG% by less than 2%, especially when he's been above 40% for the last month and a half

Really just had a real bad start to the season is all

Sent from my SM-G965U using RealGM mobile app

[cuyankees]

I’ve watched every second of every game and very few of his points have come in late garbage time and the vast majority have come in the first half and anybody who watches games knows this

Fatal mistake, tipoff starts garbage time in a NYK game.

Haaa, you all are assuming that a game w the NYK is competitive when it’s an absolute joke aka garbage time.

If you all are watching as much as you say you do, you’d see that. Dubs game was an open gym game from the tipoff, last night was a joke from tipoff.

Notice a pattern w the NYK going down big immediately, then crawling back into the game bc opponent is “chilling”.

Outside of the LAL game of late, can anyone name a game that has been competitive from the tip off of late?

[Tron Carter]

Fatal mistake, tipoff starts garbage time in a NYK game.

Haaa, you all are assuming that a game w the NYK is competitive when it’s an absolute joke aka garbage time.

If you all are watching as much as you say you do, you’d see that. Dubs game was an open gym game from the tipoff, last night was a joke from tipoff.

Notice a pattern w the NYK going down big immediately, then crawling back into the game bc opponent is “chilling”.

Outside of the LAL game of late, can anyone name a game that has been competitive from the tip off of late?

uh, this game?

[cuyankees]

Haaa, you all are assuming that a game w the NYK is competitive when it’s an absolute joke aka garbage time.

If you all are watching as much as you say you do, you’d see that. Dubs game was an open gym game from the tipoff, last night was a joke from tipoff.

Notice a pattern w the NYK going down big immediately, then crawling back into the game bc opponent is “chilling”.

Outside of the LAL game of late, can anyone name a game that has been competitive from the tip off of late?

uh, this game?

Guess that lead out the gate continuing into the half counts as competitive? Cool

[fatalogic]

Haaa, you all are assuming that a game w the NYK is competitive when it’s an absolute joke aka garbage time.

If you all are watching as much as you say you do, you’d see that. Dubs game was an open gym game from the tipoff, last night was a joke from tipoff.

Notice a pattern w the NYK going down big immediately, then crawling back into the game bc opponent is “chilling”.

Outside of the LAL game of late, can anyone name a game that has been competitive from the tip off of late?

uh, this game?

Guess that lead out the gate continuing into the half counts as competitive? Cool

So because the Knicks suck and no team is taking them seriously that invalidates anything good the rookies do? What exactly is the bar for a good rookie these days because depending on who the player it it seems to move all over the place.

[cuyankees]

uh, this game?

Guess that lead out the gate continuing into the half counts as competitive? Cool

So because the Knicks suck and no team is taking them seriously that invalidates anything good the rookies do? What exactly is the bar for a good rookie these days because depending on who the player it it seems to move all over the place.

It’s all context, as I said before, KK projects to be a 3/4th option on the team when taking into account how the roster is built. It’s the same “debate” w THJ. It’s great that he’s scoring bc at least he shows the aggression vs a Frank but he plays no defense and when his touches drop significantly due to being a lower option on a “decent” team, then what? You’re left w a younger THJ. It’s hard to get excited about that unless Pills is going to shop KK and we know that isn’t happening.

KK must get stronger on his moves to the basket, play some semblance of defense bc on a playoff team, he isn’t seeing the floor ala Melo. The efficiency is concerning especially in the context, combined w no defense what so ever.

With Pills’ “plan”, KK pick was rather perplexing bc SGA or someone else would be a much better fit.

[SmoothLefty21]

Man, I just realized we don't play a normal-timed game until 1/23. The afternoon tilt in London this week then the MLK Day afternoon game.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Guess that lead out the gate continuing into the half counts as competitive? Cool

So because the Knicks suck and no team is taking them seriously that invalidates anything good the rookies do? What exactly is the bar for a good rookie these days because depending on who the player it it seems to move all over the place.

It’s all context, as I said before, KK projects to be a 3/4th option on the team when taking into account how the roster is built. It’s the same “debate” w THJ. It’s great that he’s scoring bc at least he shows the aggression vs a Frank but he plays no defense and when his touches drop significantly due to being a lower option on a “decent” team, then what? You’re left w a younger THJ. It’s hard to get excited about that unless Pills is going to shop KK and we know that isn’t happening.

KK must get stronger on his moves to the basket, play some semblance of defense bc on a playoff team, he isn’t seeing the floor ala Melo. The efficiency is concerning especially in the context, combined w no defense what so ever.

With Pills’ “plan”, KK pick was rather perplexing bc SGA or someone else would be a much better fit.

Knox is way ahead of where Timmy was at his age, plus just has so much more going on like size and length. That seems like a bad comparison.

[shtolky]

This is a weird thread to be complaining about Knox after the game he had yesterday.

[Oscirus]

Fatal mistake, tipoff starts garbage time in a NYK game.

Haaa, you all are assuming that a game w the NYK is competitive when it’s an absolute joke aka garbage time.

If you all are watching as much as you say you do, you’d see that. Dubs game was an open gym game from the tipoff, last night was a joke from tipoff.

Notice a pattern w the NYK going down big immediately, then crawling back into the game bc opponent is “chilling”.

Outside of the LAL game of late, can anyone name a game that has been competitive from the tip off of late?

Even if that theory worked, other than yesterday, the majority of his points come in the first half before teams apparently start chilling. Said theory would only work if he was killing it in the second half.

[Oscirus]

Guess that lead out the gate continuing into the half counts as competitive? Cool

So because the Knicks suck and no team is taking them seriously that invalidates anything good the rookies do? What exactly is the bar for a good rookie these days because depending on who the player it it seems to move all over the place.

It’s all context, as I said before, KK projects to be a 3/4th option on the team when taking into account how the roster is built. It’s the same “debate” w THJ. It’s great that he’s scoring bc at least he shows the aggression vs a Frank but he plays no defense and when his touches drop significantly due to being a lower option on a “decent” team, then what? You’re left w a younger THJ. It’s hard to get excited about that unless Pills is going to shop KK and we know that isn’t happening.

KK must get stronger on his moves to the basket, play some semblance of defense bc on a playoff team, he isn’t seeing the floor ala Melo. The efficiency is concerning especially in the context, combined w no defense what so ever.

With Pills’ “plan”, KK pick was rather perplexing bc SGA or someone else would be a much better fit.

Where are you getting these projections from? He can easily be a one or two once hes fully developed and the no playing defense thing is a myth. Not being all worldly defense wise is not the same as not playing any defense.

[stuporman]

I come here to hopefully talk about a nice tank effort with young players showing some promise and am met with... well, not sure what this is.

[cuyankees]

So because the Knicks suck and no team is taking them seriously that invalidates anything good the rookies do? What exactly is the bar for a good rookie these days because depending on who the player it it seems to move all over the place.

It’s all context, as I said before, KK projects to be a 3/4th option on the team when taking into account how the roster is built. It’s the same “debate” w THJ. It’s great that he’s scoring bc at least he shows the aggression vs a Frank but he plays no defense and when his touches drop significantly due to being a lower option on a “decent” team, then what? You’re left w a younger THJ. It’s hard to get excited about that unless Pills is going to shop KK and we know that isn’t happening.

KK must get stronger on his moves to the basket, play some semblance of defense bc on a playoff team, he isn’t seeing the floor ala Melo. The efficiency is concerning especially in the context, combined w no defense what so ever.

With Pills’ “plan”, KK pick was rather perplexing bc SGA or someone else would be a much better fit.

Where are you getting these projections from? He can easily be a one or two once hes fully developed and the no playing defense thing is a myth. Not being all worldly defense wise is not the same as not playing any defense.

It’s pretty easy...

KP
FA
Zion or someone similar.

Hence 3/4. If you think that KK becomes a 1/2 w that plan going fwd, then let’s agree to disagree bc don’t see KK becoming the 1st option over KP or whomever NYK draft. Add a FA in there, and you’re looking @ 4 already.

[F N 11]

I’ve watched every second of every game and very few of his points have come in late garbage time and the vast majority have come in the first half and anybody who watches games knows this

Yup its a stamina thing with him. He finally put it together. for some time i was screaming to pass him the ball but he gets his shots effortlessly. Does not hold the ball and take dumb shots. Again, hes 19 lmao.

[cuyankees]

So because the Knicks suck and no team is taking them seriously that invalidates anything good the rookies do? What exactly is the bar for a good rookie these days because depending on who the player it it seems to move all over the place.

It’s all context, as I said before, KK projects to be a 3/4th option on the team when taking into account how the roster is built. It’s the same “debate” w THJ. It’s great that he’s scoring bc at least he shows the aggression vs a Frank but he plays no defense and when his touches drop significantly due to being a lower option on a “decent” team, then what? You’re left w a younger THJ. It’s hard to get excited about that unless Pills is going to shop KK and we know that isn’t happening.

KK must get stronger on his moves to the basket, play some semblance of defense bc on a playoff team, he isn’t seeing the floor ala Melo. The efficiency is concerning especially in the context, combined w no defense what so ever.

With Pills’ “plan”, KK pick was rather perplexing bc SGA or someone else would be a much better fit.

Knox is way ahead of where Timmy was at his age, plus just has so much more going on like size and length. That seems like a bad comparison.

Comparison of roles on the team based on roster construction and the “plan”. Obvi they are different players physically.

[F N 11]

This is a weird thread to be complaining about Knox after the game he had yesterday.

[F N 11]

Did not read all but let me guess. Frank had a terrible game bc he shot 4-11 and his plus 10 and context of the misses were ignored.....

[fatalogic]

Did not read all but let me guess. Frank had a terrible game bc he shot 4-11 and his plus 10 and context of the misses were ignored.....

Actually Frank got praise, it's Knox who is getting **** on because apparently he's as good as rookie KD.

[Oscirus]

Did not read all but let me guess. Frank had a terrible game bc he shot 4-11 and his plus 10 and context of the misses were ignored.....

Surprisingly, no. It's been mostly complimentary if him for this game

[NYKnickerbocker]

Damn ppl really complaining about efficiency from a rookie lol. I very few wing/guards come out the gate lg average or better in efficiency. For them it’s all about finding out if what you use to do in college/overseas still works and what I can add/change.

Knox’s efficiency stats have been on a slow climb. Nowhere near worried about his. I’m actually more worried about KP being able to be above lg average than the prospects of Knox doing it in the future.