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......There shouldn't be any reason to question his competitiveness or effort out there
Saberestar wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:Blocks per game by month:
October 0.6
November 0.9
December 1.1
January 1.2
Ayton is obviously improving on defense.
lilfishi22 wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:Blocks per game by month:
October 0.6
November 0.9
December 1.1
January 1.2
Ayton is obviously improving on defense.
About a month into the season Ayton's rim protection was the worst at .70DFG%. It's come down to about 65% which isn't good but it's improving. At this point, I'll take any improvement
lilfishi22 wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:Blocks per game by month:
October 0.6
November 0.9
December 1.1
January 1.2
Ayton is obviously improving on defense.
About a month into the season Ayton's rim protection was the worst at .70DFG%. It's come down to about 65% which isn't good but it's improving. At this point, I'll take any improvement
AtheJ415 wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:Blocks per game by month:
October 0.6
November 0.9
December 1.1
January 1.2
Ayton is obviously improving on defense.
About a month into the season Ayton's rim protection was the worst at .70DFG%. It's come down to about 65% which isn't good but it's improving. At this point, I'll take any improvement
I think the bigger key is that it is steadily improving without any regression. That means there is real hope his D won't be a negative fairly quickly.
jcsunsfan wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:About a month into the season Ayton's rim protection was the worst at .70DFG%. It's come down to about 65% which isn't good but it's improving. At this point, I'll take any improvement
I think the bigger key is that it is steadily improving without any regression. That means there is real hope his D won't be a negative fairly quickly.
As the whole team improves defensively, this will get better.
Revived wrote:lilfishi22 wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:Blocks per game by month:
October 0.6
November 0.9
December 1.1
January 1.2
Ayton is obviously improving on defense.
About a month into the season Ayton's rim protection was the worst at .70DFG%. It's come down to about 65% which isn't good but it's improving. At this point, I'll take any improvement
He’s in position to make the block many times but simply watches instead to try and pad his rebound stats instead hoping for a miss.
I don’t know if it’s a millennial mentality of being afraid of ending up on social media for getting posterized or whatever but his mentality of “being in position but watching” has to change.
lilfishi22 wrote:jcsunsfan wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:
I think the bigger key is that it is steadily improving without any regression. That means there is real hope his D won't be a negative fairly quickly.
As the whole team improves defensively, this will get better.
We have some good defensvie pieces on the roster. The problem really is that Ayton likely won't be an elite rim protector (not saying he can't be but it's not likely), Warren is 25 and hasn't proven to be a good defender and of course Booker who probably won't ever be a positive defender. When you have those 3 guys out there, it's tough to have a good defense. I'm not sure if Bridges, JJ and Melton is enough.
I think filling that PF position is going to be an interesting task. That position likely has the 2nd biggest potential to change the defense of a team (behind the 5) so IF we end up with Zion for example and we play him with Ayton, we might actually look decent defensively because Zion is a guy that can cover a lot of mistakes.
He absolutely picks his spots and frankly doesn't foul enough. It's funny because most young bigs are the opposite and foul too much and have to learn to not challenge every shot. I've said it before but I really think some coach at a lower level instructed him not to foul because they couldn't afford him in foul trouble and it's a habit that stuck with him.mikea7 wrote:In all the number crunching, has anyone looked at when the majority of DA's blocks come in the course of the game? He's not at all foul-prone because he doesn't yet understand his physicality, I think, which means that most of the game he's not attacking offensive players at the rim the way he should.
One thing that I think is encouraging (by the eye test) is that he's tended to come up with blocks and shot alterations late in close games. This shows potential and desire--he's just not convinced he can use it all the time yet. IMHO, of course.
WeekapaugGroove wrote:He absolutely picks his spots and frankly doesn't foul enough. It's funny because most young bigs are the opposite and foul too much and have to learn to not challenge every shot. I've said it before but I really think some coach at a lower level instructed him not to foul because they couldn't afford him in foul trouble and it's a habit that stuck with him.mikea7 wrote:In all the number crunching, has anyone looked at when the majority of DA's blocks come in the course of the game? He's not at all foul-prone because he doesn't yet understand his physicality, I think, which means that most of the game he's not attacking offensive players at the rim the way he should.
One thing that I think is encouraging (by the eye test) is that he's tended to come up with blocks and shot alterations late in close games. This shows potential and desire--he's just not convinced he can use it all the time yet. IMHO, of course.
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bwgood77 wrote:Any complaints about Ayton just watch this...
Though Len actually had a great game tonight.