Mavericks Discussing Dennis Smith Jr. Trade With Suns, Magic

[Jstock12]

DSJ is a loser. He wants to go to a team where he's the best player - where the hell is that? He's certainly not good enough to be the best player on a slightly below average team like the Mavs. Heck, he wouldn't even be the best player on some of the crappiest teams. DSJ should take a good look in the mirror and realize that he's light years away from Doncic in terms of overall talent.

He's 21 and seems like being controlled by his agent who's looking for a maximum contract for DSJ in the future and not to play second fiddle to Luka Doncic. 3&D guys dont get paid much and his agent seems to be pulling the strings by not making him attend practice.

That agent is ruining his career.

[daoneandonly]

No blame for Carlisle on this? He deserves some imo. How many times is RC going to clash with a player and Cuban/Nelson just turn a blind eye to it?

[Torgeir Bryn]

I’d love to see the results of a poll of NBA fans and see what their opinion is of Rick Carlisle is and if they would replace their current coach with him. I don’t think he is viewed as favorably as our local media thinks he is.

That being said, I want no trade to go down and DSJ to remain a Maverick for now. Luka and DSJ just need more time

Yeah he is. He's widely seen as a top 5 coach. Only here in Dallas where we expect him to work miracles with untalented rosters and where we got spoiled by prime Dirk is he seen in a negative light. Guy can flat coach.

It's getting ridiculous. The guy coached a team starting Calderon and Dalembert to 49 wins and pushed the eventual champions Spurs to seven games(their hardest series that year).

[Archx]

I’d love to see the results of a poll of NBA fans and see what their opinion is of Rick Carlisle is and if they would replace their current coach with him. I don’t think he is viewed as favorably as our local media thinks he is.

That being said, I want no trade to go down and DSJ to remain a Maverick for now. Luka and DSJ just need more time

Yeah he is. He's widely seen as a top 5 coach. Only here in Dallas where we expect him to work miracles with untalented rosters and where we got spoiled by prime Dirk is he seen in a negative light. Guy can flat coach.

It's getting ridiculous. The guy coached a team starting Calderon and Dalembert to 49 wins and pushed the eventual champions Spurs to seven games(their hardest series that year).

....and he made a lot of adjustments lately that has been proven to work. The only problem is, Mavs still make too many mistakes in the last 5 minutes. They can't expect Luka to bail them out every single game. It's not Ricks fault that Wes and Barnes can't hit an ocean or that DAJ has butter hands.

[2011Champs]

What would Philly think about Dennis+Barea(salary filler) for Fultz ?
Mavs of course could bring back Barea next season when/if healthy like they did Harris .

[Archx]

What would Philly think about Dennis+Barea(salary filler) for Fultz ?
Mavs of course could bring back Barea next season when/if healthy like they did Harris .

You would trade DSJ AND Barea for a guy who shouldn't even be in the NBA? wow

[daoneandonly]

I’d love to see the results of a poll of NBA fans and see what their opinion is of Rick Carlisle is and if they would replace their current coach with him. I don’t think he is viewed as favorably as our local media thinks he is.

That being said, I want no trade to go down and DSJ to remain a Maverick for now. Luka and DSJ just need more time

Yeah he is. He's widely seen as a top 5 coach. Only here in Dallas where we expect him to work miracles with untalented rosters and where we got spoiled by prime Dirk is he seen in a negative light. Guy can flat coach.

It's getting ridiculous. The guy coached a team starting Calderon and Dalembert to 49 wins and pushed the eventual champions Spurs to seven games(their hardest series that year).

Yeah hes fine coaching old vets, many past their prime even. But he can't develop young talent to save his life. Does he get credit for LUka? That can be debated, but we saw what he did with Crowder and now DSJ, nothing.

[Archx]

Yeah he is. He's widely seen as a top 5 coach. Only here in Dallas where we expect him to work miracles with untalented rosters and where we got spoiled by prime Dirk is he seen in a negative light. Guy can flat coach.

It's getting ridiculous. The guy coached a team starting Calderon and Dalembert to 49 wins and pushed the eventual champions Spurs to seven games(their hardest series that year).

Yeah hes fine coaching old vets, many past their prime even. But he can't develop young talent to save his life. Does he get credit for LUka? That can be debated, but we saw what he did with Crowder and now DSJ, nothing.

He did give him confidence and green light to do what he does. He should get at least some credit

[Torgeir Bryn]

Yeah he is. He's widely seen as a top 5 coach. Only here in Dallas where we expect him to work miracles with untalented rosters and where we got spoiled by prime Dirk is he seen in a negative light. Guy can flat coach.

It's getting ridiculous. The guy coached a team starting Calderon and Dalembert to 49 wins and pushed the eventual champions Spurs to seven games(their hardest series that year).

Yeah hes fine coaching old vets, many past their prime even. But he can't develop young talent to save his life. Does he get credit for LUka? That can be debated, but we saw what he did with Crowder and now DSJ, nothing.

Its not like Dallas has been picking in the lottery for most of his tenure. He empowered DSJ and gave him the green light, even in crunch time. And Dennis looks better shooting the ball and on defense this year. He played Crowder a decent amount, but sure Jae has become even better as he entered his prime.
He has also helped develop guys like Barea, Wright, Mahimni, Finney-Smith, Aminu and Powell.

[Lowtech801]

Yeah he is. He's widely seen as a top 5 coach. Only here in Dallas where we expect him to work miracles with untalented rosters and where we got spoiled by prime Dirk is he seen in a negative light. Guy can flat coach.

It's getting ridiculous. The guy coached a team starting Calderon and Dalembert to 49 wins and pushed the eventual champions Spurs to seven games(their hardest series that year).

Yeah hes fine coaching old vets, many past their prime even. But he can't develop young talent to save his life. Does he get credit for LUka? That can be debated, but we saw what he did with Crowder and now DSJ, nothing.

How much young talent has left here and become stars elsewhere?

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[arkuo]

Luke Kennard for DSJ. Who says no?

[daoneandonly]

Luke Kennard for DSJ. Who says no?

Dallas easily. Kennard is a piss poor defender

[2011Champs]

What would Philly think about Dennis+Barea(salary filler) for Fultz ?
Mavs of course could bring back Barea next season when/if healthy like they did Harris .

You would trade DSJ AND Barea for a guy who shouldn't even be in the NBA? wow

Barea is a salary match filler....did you forget he is out the rest of the season and also expiring? I guess you missed that part completely.

Idk ...is Fultz hopeless or could he be a reclamation project for Carlisle? I truthfully don’t know what the deal is with Fultz if he is salvageable or if his career is already over before it started.

[Archx]

What would Philly think about Dennis+Barea(salary filler) for Fultz ?
Mavs of course could bring back Barea next season when/if healthy like they did Harris .

You would trade DSJ AND Barea for a guy who shouldn't even be in the NBA? wow

Barea is a salary match filler....did you forget he is out the rest of the season and also expiring? I guess you missed that part completely.

Idk ...is Fultz hopeless or could he be a reclamation project for Carlisle? I truthfully don’t know what the deal is with Fultz if he is salvageable or if his career is already over before it started.

I understand your way of thinking but Fultz is absolutely terrible. And i am 100% sure that Rick wouldn't be even bothered to deal with all the drama that is surrounding him. Fultz is more or less like Darko was, a lost cause. Mental problems etc...

[jpengland]

Luke Kennard for DSJ. Who says no?

Kennard is improving but hes still a worse pmayer than smith currently and has a significantly lower ceiling.

Mavs pass.

[Lowtech801]

What would Philly think about Dennis+Barea(salary filler) for Fultz ?
Mavs of course could bring back Barea next season when/if healthy like they did Harris .

You would trade DSJ AND Barea for a guy who shouldn't even be in the NBA? wow

Barea is a salary match filler....did you forget he is out the rest of the season and also expiring? I guess you missed that part completely.

Idk ...is Fultz hopeless or could he be a reclamation project for Carlisle? I truthfully don’t know what the deal is with Fultz if he is salvageable or if his career is already over before it started.

I dont think either team would do that deal. Philly would have to sweeten with a pick and also they dont need dsj they need a knockdown shooter with good d playing the point since the ball will be in simmon's hands.

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[personanongrata]

I think teams might be leery of Dennis Smith Jr. Immature, selfish, etc.

[Teffer10]

DSJ's value is diminishing by the minute and I'm beginning to think Jackson or Isaacs might be our best bet.
Whoever we trade for better fit Rick's system and have the right attitude to play for him or we'll have another Rondo, Odom, Noel, etc....situation.

[fuller4379]

Unless you don't like Gordon making $21 million per year, you trade Kleber + expiring for Gordon in a heartbeat. Kleber is a very low ceiling player. He provides a spark off the bench and great hustle, but he is currently about all he will ever become. Gordon is a very high ceiling player with much more athleticism.

I could not disagree more regarding Kleber. This is a soon-to-be 27 year old who didn't really start playing basketball until he was 21. He only had one serious competitive season of basketball before playing in the NBA last season. I don't consider the Bundesliga league preparation for the NBA. The ACB yes.

So, we're talking about a guy in year 3 of his professional basketball career, for all intents & purposes, and he's blossoming. Showing us more than he's ever shown before & Carlisle keeps jacking with his minutes, and yet he still responds.

How can you say he doesn't have room for improvement, that he is all he will ever be?

What's the real difference between Pascal Siakam and Maxi Kleber? (And I'm referring to their late development)

I don’t see it. His numbers this year are basically identical to last year. He is a high energy guy with a good attitude that is your 7th or 8th guy on a good team. He is a good guy to have on your bench, but I don’t see him blossoming into a 4th best player on a good team.

[2011Champs]

DSJ's value is diminishing by the minute and I'm beginning to think Jackson or Isaacs might be our best bet.
Whoever we trade for better fit Rick's system and have the right attitude to play for him or we'll have another Rondo, Odom, Noel, etc....situation.

I beginning to think SmithJr is virtually worthless in the trade market unless we pair him with an expiring / Wes and take back longer term unfavorable salary. Such as love
If Issac/Bamba/Jackson/Mikal etc was on the table I’d find it hard to believe we didn’t pull the trigger