2018/2019 NBA Trade/Wishing Well Thread (Cont.)

[RHODEY]

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You must be mad... why would you want Chandler two year contract? With no pick(s) or young asset coming back.

I thought Parsons was an expiring.

[Bklyn&company]

If I'm the Knicks we need to position ourselves in play for Kevin Durant and fck everyone else. Kevin Durant needs a team to lead ala Harden and separate himself from being a "James Worth" type career which is still a Hall of Fame career ... but I always felt Durant talent wise him is in the same category as Lebron...

THJ,LEE, Lance Thomas etc... need to go

[HarthorneWingo]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/01/deveneys-latest-d-smith-jr-nuggets-j-parker.html

Teams that might otherwise be interested in trading for the Mavericks‘ Dennis Smith Jr. may prefer to try their luck with a talented crop of point guards in free agency, writes Sean Deveney of Sporting News. The Magic and Suns, who have been mentioned in trade rumors involving Smith, will both have cap room available this summer and could try to upgrade at the position without giving up any assets.

Kyrie Irving and Kemba Walker will headline this year’s class, which will also feature D’Angelo Russell and Terry Rozier. They are all more traditional point guards than Smith, who was bumped out of that position in Dallas when the Mavericks drafted Luka Doncic.

“He is very athletic, but he’s not a playmaker and not a great shooter,” a front office executive said of DSJ, per Deveney. “If you have money under the cap this offseason, there are other guys you can pursue who fit better, who can pass and score.”

There are also concerns that Smith is already clashing with management midway through his second season in the league, Deveney adds. Dallas is reluctant to give up on such a talented young player a year after taking him with the No. 9 pick, but another source says he will eventually be traded, whether it happens before the February 7 deadline or sometime in the future.

[Knicksfan1992]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/01/deveneys-latest-d-smith-jr-nuggets-j-parker.html

Teams that might otherwise be interested in trading for the Mavericks‘ Dennis Smith Jr. may prefer to try their luck with a talented crop of point guards in free agency, writes Sean Deveney of Sporting News. The Magic and Suns, who have been mentioned in trade rumors involving Smith, will both have cap room available this summer and could try to upgrade at the position without giving up any assets.

Kyrie Irving and Kemba Walker will headline this year’s class, which will also feature D’Angelo Russell and Terry Rozier. They are all more traditional point guards than Smith, who was bumped out of that position in Dallas when the Mavericks drafted Luka Doncic.

“He is very athletic, but he’s not a playmaker and not a great shooter,” a front office executive said of DSJ, per Deveney. “If you have money under the cap this offseason, there are other guys you can pursue who fit better, who can pass and score.”

There are also concerns that Smith is already clashing with management midway through his second season in the league, Deveney adds. Dallas is reluctant to give up on such a talented young player a year after taking him with the No. 9 pick, but another source says he will eventually be traded, whether it happens before the February 7 deadline or sometime in the future.

Ugh sometimes people are so frickin dumb.

There's publicly available information that dispels both of those notions that I bolded.

[HarthorneWingo]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2019/01/deveneys-latest-d-smith-jr-nuggets-j-parker.html

Teams that might otherwise be interested in trading for the Mavericks‘ Dennis Smith Jr. may prefer to try their luck with a talented crop of point guards in free agency, writes Sean Deveney of Sporting News. The Magic and Suns, who have been mentioned in trade rumors involving Smith, will both have cap room available this summer and could try to upgrade at the position without giving up any assets.

Kyrie Irving and Kemba Walker will headline this year’s class, which will also feature D’Angelo Russell and Terry Rozier. They are all more traditional point guards than Smith, who was bumped out of that position in Dallas when the Mavericks drafted Luka Doncic.

“He is very athletic, but he’s not a playmaker and not a great shooter,” a front office executive said of DSJ, per Deveney. “If you have money under the cap this offseason, there are other guys you can pursue who fit better, who can pass and score.”

There are also concerns that Smith is already clashing with management midway through his second season in the league, Deveney adds. Dallas is reluctant to give up on such a talented young player a year after taking him with the No. 9 pick, but another source says he will eventually be traded, whether it happens before the February 7 deadline or sometime in the future.

Ugh sometimes people are so frickin dumb.

There's publicly available information that dispels both of those notions that I bolded.

His lack of playmaking ability has been questioned since college. This season his assist to turnover ratio has gotten worse (3.9:3:1) from last season (5.2:2.8).

[cgf]

Would be sweet if we could get a future SRP or 2 for Mudiay, Kanter & Mario, and a future protected FRP for Vonleh. A Lee & Lance <—> Knight + HOU FRP <—> Parker 3 way deal after that & we would be set up beautifully for whatever the offseason brings.

[Drazen8]

Just an FYI
Don't trust the salaries listed on the Trade Machine especially if it says the contract length is 0 years.
Knight is guaranteed $15.6 mil next season. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-rockets/brandon-knight-8058/

[cgf]

Just an FYI
Don't trust the salaries listed on the Trade Machine especially if it says the contract length is 0 years.
Knight is guaranteed $15.6 mil next season. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-rockets/brandon-knight-8058/

I’m well aware, I am far to entertained by the financial side of the game...even griped about shams capulator being mistaken on Baker’s contract so much that they finally corrected it lol.

Knight’s extra season is why Chicago would be getting Houston’s 1st round pick in that deal, sending Parker’s expiring to us, with us sending Houston Lee & Lance (and their SRP?) to give them more defenders who can hit open 3s; to give us cap flexibility; and to give Chicago an extra pick for cap space that they weren’t going to use anyway...because their plans/dreams are centered on having cap space in 2020; when Knight will have expired.

Not that I’m expecting a trade like that, but it’s one that I think would help all 3 teams towards their goals at reasonable costs. Since Houston needs defenders that can hit open shots, the Bulls need to utilize Parker’s expiring to get assets before they end up just buyin him out, and we could use the cap space if it doesn’t cost us a significant asset.

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[Bklyn&company]

Just my 2 cent

Mudiay and Frank are combo guards backups right now, chit I believe Frank will end up a 6'7 210lbs+ PG/SG/SF... Only way I'm resign Mudiay as a backup PG/SG is if we strikeout on some big fish FA's and it's a 1yr or 2yr team option deal... only 1yr or 2yr team option deals moving forward for everyone medicore... that would be my policy as a GM.

Just amazes me how teams like Denver (Monte Morris etc...) keeps finding talent and Big City Knicks scouts sleep.... Geeeeesssh... smh

Question off topic... why do the Knicks sign another 2-two player that's 26 yrs old, combo that can't shoot... in Kadeem Allen ... smh Knicks keep doing **** back forwards... chit if you are going to 2 way someone John Jenkins should be the guy, dude is killing it in the GLeague .. or a younger PG ... smh

[BLACKFEET 2010]

Just my 2 cent

Mudiay and Frank are combo guards backups right now, chit I believe Frank will end up a 6'7 210lbs+ PG/SG/SF... Only way I'm resign Mudiay as a backup PG/SG is if we strikeout on some big fish FA's and it's a 1yr or 2yr team option deal... only 1yr or 2yr team option deals moving forward for everyone medicore... that would be my policy as a GM.

Just amazes me how teams like Denver (Monte Morris etc...) keeps finding talent and Big City Knicks scouts sleep.... Geeeeesssh... smh

Question off topic... why do the Knicks sign another 2-two player that's 26 yrs old, combo that can't shoot... in Kadeem Allen ... smh Knicks keep doing **** back forwards... chit if you are going to 2 way someone John Jenkins should be the guy, dude is killing it in the GLeague .. or a younger PG ... smh

Well we did find Allonzo Trier. Known commodities, slept on for whatever reasons but known. Monte Morris wasn’t some outside the box find.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

I sincerely believe Kadeem Allen is the Frank replacement.

[BLACKFEET 2010]

If im Pills, I’m doing extensive background, interviewing everyone who knows him and doesnt. I want to know what the issues were that lead to the (alleged) dismissal from USC. I need to KNOW he’s mature enough for the opportunity to play here...but I need a good enough reason to not draft Kevin Porter Jr. Be it with a trade down if possible picking up another asset.

He’s advanced with the ball and the Harden comparison’s arent a stretch. He’s strong and super athletic. If he can convince me his character concerns are plain ol’ growing pains I’m in on this guy.
But he got some ‘splaining to do.

[Drazen8]

Just an FYI
Don't trust the salaries listed on the Trade Machine especially if it says the contract length is 0 years.
Knight is guaranteed $15.6 mil next season. https://www.spotrac.com/nba/houston-rockets/brandon-knight-8058/

I’m well aware, I am far to entertained by the financial side of the game...even griped about shams capulator being mistaken on Baker’s contract so much that they finally corrected it lol.

Knight’s extra season is why Chicago would be getting Houston’s 1st round pick in that deal, sending Parker’s expiring to us, with us sending Houston Lee & Lance (and their SRP?) to give them more defenders who can hit open 3s; to give us cap flexibility; and to give Chicago an extra pick for cap space that they weren’t going to use anyway...because their plans/dreams are centered on having cap space in 2020; when Knight will have expired.

Not that I’m expecting a trade like that, but it’s one that I think would help all 3 teams towards their goals at reasonable costs. Since Houston needs defenders that can hit open shots, the Bulls need to utilize Parker’s expiring to get assets before they end up just buyin him out, and we could use the cap space if it doesn’t cost us a significant asset.

I made that post as a read it and move on with your lives.

I've seen a him and others that are not expiring included in deals lately, thus me not quoting you.

If you would like a critique on your trade, I believe it makes sense if you think Knight is an expiring and the Bulls are getting the Houston pick for their trouble. However my general understanding from the last two weeks is that the Bulls are not interested in taking on future salary in a Parker trade and if I were them I would want more than just the Houston pick to consider it.

Wow, if you got the cache to get the capulator corrected, please get the Trade Machine updated. I had been trying to get them to correct the Mahinimi salary for what seemed like two years. They finally did, but I doubt it was because of me.
I appreciate it in advance.

[Bklyn&company]

Just my 2 cent

Mudiay and Frank are combo guards backups right now, chit I believe Frank will end up a 6'7 210lbs+ PG/SG/SF... Only way I'm resign Mudiay as a backup PG/SG is if we strikeout on some big fish FA's and it's a 1yr or 2yr team option deal... only 1yr or 2yr team option deals moving forward for everyone medicore... that would be my policy as a GM.

Just amazes me how teams like Denver (Monte Morris etc...) keeps finding talent and Big City Knicks scouts sleep.... Geeeeesssh... smh

Question off topic... why do the Knicks sign another 2-two player that's 26 yrs old, combo that can't shoot... in Kadeem Allen ... smh Knicks keep doing **** back forwards... chit if you are going to 2 way someone John Jenkins should be the guy, dude is killing it in the GLeague .. or a younger PG ... smh

Well we did find Allonzo Trier. Known commodities, slept on for whatever reasons but known. Monte Morris wasn’t some outside the box find.

Nah.. Allonzo is a under size volume shooter... pretty much that's it. Lou Will mode but very lite. The same player in college not a find.

Monte Morris will have been our starting PG right now... and yes Morris has greatly improved since high top Iowa St(I watched him for 3 yrs)... it's only his second year and he has starting stuff... that's my point. He is just one of many examples I can pull out, especially from Denver..

[Fat Kat]

Just my 2 cent

Mudiay and Frank are combo guards backups right now, chit I believe Frank will end up a 6'7 210lbs+ PG/SG/SF... Only way I'm resign Mudiay as a backup PG/SG is if we strikeout on some big fish FA's and it's a 1yr or 2yr team option deal... only 1yr or 2yr team option deals moving forward for everyone medicore... that would be my policy as a GM.

Just amazes me how teams like Denver (Monte Morris etc...) keeps finding talent and Big City Knicks scouts sleep.... Geeeeesssh... smh

Question off topic... why do the Knicks sign another 2-two player that's 26 yrs old, combo that can't shoot... in Kadeem Allen ... smh Knicks keep doing **** back forwards... chit if you are going to 2 way someone John Jenkins should be the guy, dude is killing it in the GLeague .. or a younger PG ... smh

John Jenkins is older than Allen, and not eligible for a 2-way contract.

[newyorker4ever]

Just my 2 cent

Mudiay and Frank are combo guards backups right now, chit I believe Frank will end up a 6'7 210lbs+ PG/SG/SF... Only way I'm resign Mudiay as a backup PG/SG is if we strikeout on some big fish FA's and it's a 1yr or 2yr team option deal... only 1yr or 2yr team option deals moving forward for everyone medicore... that would be my policy as a GM.

Just amazes me how teams like Denver (Monte Morris etc...) keeps finding talent and Big City Knicks scouts sleep.... Geeeeesssh... smh

Question off topic... why do the Knicks sign another 2-two player that's 26 yrs old, combo that can't shoot... in Kadeem Allen ... smh Knicks keep doing **** back forwards... chit if you are going to 2 way someone John Jenkins should be the guy, dude is killing it in the GLeague .. or a younger PG ... smh

Well we did find Allonzo Trier. Known commodities, slept on for whatever reasons but known. Monte Morris wasn’t some outside the box find.

Nah.. Allonzo is a under size volume shooter... pretty much that's it. Lou Will mode but very lite. The same player in college not a find.

Monte Morris will have been our starting PG right now... and yes Morris has greatly improved since high top Iowa St(I watched him for 3 yrs)... it's only his second year and he has starting stuff... that's my point. He is just one of many examples I can pull out, especially from Denver..

You put M.Morris on the Knicks and he doesn't look as good as he does when you put him on a team with talent all over the place like Denver has. I still think he would play well but not as well on a bad team as a good team. I also don't think he was some great find by them cause he was getting plenty of attention in the draft and if i remember right there was some reason for why he dropped. It was either something with his size or an injury or something but i do remember him being talked about but there being some reason why teams weren't sold on taking him early in the draft.

[TBri1974]

Knicks do a really decent job finding talent. To be honest, we rarely miss on young talent. Sure, we do not always make the pick that comes out 100% better than every other available player, but neither of any of the other 29 teams.

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