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Post#581 » by sco » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:08 pm

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ChiCitySPORTS#1 wrote:Source just told me a deal for DSJ is in the works. Dunn/Jabari for DSJ/Matthews. Take it as you will


At first this seemed far-fetched but after some thought it sort of makes sense.

Dallas just lost Barea so they're looking for a backup PG and I could definitely see Carlisle salivating over Dunn's defensive potential, particularly playing alongside Doncic. It leaves a pretty glaring hole at SG for Dallas but I suppose they're opting to play big anyway with Doncic at point. Furthermore, both Barea and Harris will be free agents after this year. A backcourt of Doncic, Dunn, Brunson & Barnes isn't all that bad especially in Carlisle's system. I assume they plan on throwing the bank at Klay Thompson this summer or possibly going after Redick? Jabari would be a consolation prize and scoring punch off the bench.

It seems there must be off-court issues with DSJ because he doesn't strike me as that bad of a fit with Doncic. Although Carlisle and him apparently don't jive, which could end up being a disaster with him and Boylen.

If your unsubstantiated rumor is true, Dallas could've been asking for this year's 1st from both Phoenix and Orlando but neither team was willing to play ball. As crappy as the Bulls have been, we do have decent young assets on 2+ year deals that Dallas could have interest in.

saw blub on NBC sports that Phoenix wasn't interested in DSJ. :D
saw on rotoworld that the mutual interest between ORL and DAL is high - focus on Fournier for DSJ/Matthews. :x
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Post#582 » by Bulldog23 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 2:29 pm

Dunn is the better point guard..DSJ..isn't much of a point guard..not sure he is a good fit next to Lavine..as Lavine struggles to score without dribbling the ball. Trading Lavine seems like a better move..as Dunn is overall better talent and two way player.
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Post#583 » by ATRAIN53 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:11 pm

Dunn for DSJ?

I'll tell you what - I like this because I'd love to have Dunn play with Luka so I can watch him.
He's my favorite Bull but watching him laguish here is painful.

Him jumping pass lanes and dishing dimes to Luka would be fab.

DSJ - probably a better scorer than Dunn and also averaging the SAME amount of Steals as Dunn 1.4 PG :o

Can we get Brunson in the deal too?
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Post#584 » by PrimzyBulls81 » Thu Jan 17, 2019 6:42 pm

I rather just keep Dunn over trading for Smith.. I just dont see atm,that Smith would be game changer for us.
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Post#585 » by Axolotl » Thu Jan 17, 2019 7:28 pm

PrimzyBulls81 wrote:I rather just keep Dunn over trading for Smith.. I just dont see atm,that Smith would be game changer for us.


I've been seeing this Dunn for Dennis Smith Jr trade, and just keep thinking why? Granted, I haven't seen much of DSJ, but what I have seen has not convinced me that is better than Dunn, or on his way to becoming better. If anything, the Bulls need a playmaking pg that can create for others and shoot some himself, and DSJ is not that.
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Post#586 » by dumbell78 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:23 am

Any real truth to the Hornets trade rumor? I don't know if the FO wants that Batum deal.

Batum/Monk/draft pick for Jabri/Denzel
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Post#587 » by Pax for Prez » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:35 am

dumbell78 wrote:Any real truth to the Hornets trade rumor? I don't know if the FO wants that Batum deal.

Batum/Monk/draft pick for Jabri/Denzel


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Post#588 » by dumbell78 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 12:41 am

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dumbell78 wrote:Any real truth to the Hornets trade rumor? I don't know if the FO wants that Batum deal.

Batum/Monk/draft pick for Jabri/Denzel


Link ?


Just saw it:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/one-trade-deadline-target-for-each-nba-team/ss-BBSiiWr?ocid=spartanntp#image=9
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Post#589 » by sco » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:04 am

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dumbell78 wrote:Any real truth to the Hornets trade rumor? I don't know if the FO wants that Batum deal.

Batum/Monk/draft pick for Jabri/Denzel


Link ?


Just saw it:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/one-trade-deadline-target-for-each-nba-team/ss-BBSiiWr?ocid=spartanntp#image=9

hmm...depends on if it's a first.

IMO, assuming he comes back healthy (which is a big iff), Denzell is probably better than Monk - but I'll call it a wash. Jabari is just an expiring, so it's 2 years of $27M for a pick. That's a lot. Batum will become tradable as an expiring in another season. He also allows us to punt the SF position forward a year (if we end up with the Zion prize).
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Post#590 » by Davell » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:17 am

Monk has far more upside than Valentine, especially with Valentine's injury. If it includes Charlottes 1st, top 4 protected, I'm in. Batum is a solid vet, our kids could learn some from him for a year or two.
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Post#591 » by Dan Z » Fri Jan 18, 2019 2:30 am

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hmm...depends on if it's a first.

IMO, assuming he comes back healthy (which is a big iff), Denzell is probably better than Monk - but I'll call it a wash. Jabari is just an expiring, so it's 2 years of $27M for a pick. That's a lot. Batum will become tradable as an expiring in another season. He also allows us to punt the SF position forward a year (if we end up with the Zion prize).


The article doesn't even mention a draft pick, but that would have to be in there for me to even consider it. And even then I'd probably say no.
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Post#592 » by dumbell78 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 3:52 am

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sco wrote:

hmm...depends on if it's a first.

IMO, assuming he comes back healthy (which is a big iff), Denzell is probably better than Monk - but I'll call it a wash. Jabari is just an expiring, so it's 2 years of $27M for a pick. That's a lot. Batum will become tradable as an expiring in another season. He also allows us to punt the SF position forward a year (if we end up with the Zion prize).


The article doesn't even mention a draft pick, but that would have to be in there for me to even consider it. And even then I'd probably say no.


Its a given I think otherwise it makes no sense. Like you said even with that, I dont know if the FO goes for it.
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Post#593 » by Dan Z » Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:03 am

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sco wrote:hmm...depends on if it's a first.

IMO, assuming he comes back healthy (which is a big iff), Denzell is probably better than Monk - but I'll call it a wash. Jabari is just an expiring, so it's 2 years of $27M for a pick. That's a lot. Batum will become tradable as an expiring in another season. He also allows us to punt the SF position forward a year (if we end up with the Zion prize).


The article doesn't even mention a draft pick, but that would have to be in there for me to even consider it. And even then I'd probably say no.


Its a given I think otherwise it makes no sense. Like you said even with that, I dont know if the FO goes for it.


I looked around and a first round pick is mentioned on that page when you get to the Bulls.

Overall it's an interesting list of trade ideas.
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Post#594 » by dumbell78 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 5:55 am

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The article doesn't even mention a draft pick, but that would have to be in there for me to even consider it. And even then I'd probably say no.


Its a given I think otherwise it makes no sense. Like you said even with that, I dont know if the FO goes for it.


I looked around and a first round pick is mentioned on that page when you get to the Bulls.

Overall it's an interesting list of trade ideas.


I just don't know if he's spit balling or hearing things, a pick or "two" is interesting.

As mentioned above, one potential deal would be with the Hornets, where the Bulls would send Jabari Parker and Denzel Valentine for Malik Monk and Nic Batum (and perhaps a draft pick or two).
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Post#595 » by Bulldog23 » Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:18 pm

I like Batum..he would be an upgrade. Him and some picks would be fine...rather than getting Monk. His salary would eat up space..which management loves..plus he can be productive..
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Post#596 » by Dan Z » Fri Jan 18, 2019 9:41 pm

This article suggests a few trade ideas with the Kings:

1. Jabari & 2021 2nd round pick plus cash to the Kings for Koufos & 2021 first round pick.
2. Kris Dunn to the Kings for Yogi Ferrell, 2021 2nd round pick & 2022 2nd round pick.
3. Kris Dunn, Chandler Hutchison, & cash to the Kings for Yogi Ferrell & 2021 first round pick.

https://dawindycity.com/2019/01/18/chicago-bulls-trade-sacramento-kings/
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Post#597 » by Davell » Fri Jan 18, 2019 10:34 pm

Interesting. Gotta admit, getting back 2nds for Dunn sounds light to me. But, I don't know, maybe that his value at this stage too.

If there is any semblance of a silver lining to the Wendell news, hopefully it allows GarPax to admit this is going to take a while and take on bad contracts, for more assets.

If THIS Parker trade can happen, I'm all for it. But, surely the Kings can find better for their 1st...... If that's the case, just move him and take on the money to get the best package you can obviously.

Dunn? I dunno. My opinion changes game to game, which very well probably says something in its own right. Might as well move on, I guess.....
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Post#598 » by gobullschi » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:26 am

Dan Z wrote:This article suggests a few trade ideas with the Kings:

1. Jabari & 2021 2nd round pick plus cash to the Kings for Koufos & 2021 first round pick.
2. Kris Dunn to the Kings for Yogi Ferrell, 2021 2nd round pick & 2022 2nd round pick.
3. Kris Dunn, Chandler Hutchison, & cash to the Kings for Yogi Ferrell & 2021 first round pick.

https://dawindycity.com/2019/01/18/chicago-bulls-trade-sacramento-kings/


I'd take that deal all day. I don't think Jabari has the kind of value though.
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Post#599 » by Dan Z » Sat Jan 19, 2019 1:54 am

Davell wrote:Interesting. Gotta admit, getting back 2nds for Dunn sounds light to me. But, I don't know, maybe that his value at this stage too.

If there is any semblance of a silver lining to the Wendell news, hopefully it allows GarPax to admit this is going to take a while and take on bad contracts, for more assets.

If THIS Parker trade can happen, I'm all for it. But, surely the Kings can find better for their 1st...... If that's the case, just move him and take on the money to get the best package you can obviously.

Dunn? I dunno. My opinion changes game to game, which very well probably says something in its own right. Might as well move on, I guess.....


Which teams have bad contracts that they might want to shed using an asset (most likely a first)?

The Wizards might try to shed Mahinmi's contract, but he has one more year left at 15 million.

Charlotte might try to shed Batum. He has two more years at 25 million and 27. Yikes!

Anyone else?
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Post#600 » by Rose2Boozer » Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:31 am

Dan Z wrote:
Davell wrote:Interesting. Gotta admit, getting back 2nds for Dunn sounds light to me. But, I don't know, maybe that his value at this stage too.

If there is any semblance of a silver lining to the Wendell news, hopefully it allows GarPax to admit this is going to take a while and take on bad contracts, for more assets.

If THIS Parker trade can happen, I'm all for it. But, surely the Kings can find better for their 1st...... If that's the case, just move him and take on the money to get the best package you can obviously.

Dunn? I dunno. My opinion changes game to game, which very well probably says something in its own right. Might as well move on, I guess.....


Which teams have bad contracts that they might want to shed using an asset (most likely a first)?

The Wizards might try to shed Mahinmi's contract, but he has one more year left at 15 million.

Charlotte might try to shed Batum. He has two more years at 25 million and 27. Yikes!

Anyone else?


There has been rumors of Miami's interest in moving Whiteside since last year. The Heat are also a team that's in the luxury tax. I wouldn't be surprised to see them part with a first round pick for future salary and some luxury tax relief.
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