1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST

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Player(s) of the Game

Paul George | 31 PTS (8-20 FG, 4-9 3P), 6 REB, 5 AST, 3 STL
12
75%
Jerami Grant | 10 PTS (2-6 FG), 9 REB, 2 BLK
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Steven Adams | 16 PTS (8-13 FG), 9 REB, 2 BLK
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6%
Terrance Ferguson | 11 PTS (4-8 FG, 3-6 3P)
2
13%
Dennis Schroder | 21 PTS (8-18 FG)
1
6%
Other (specify below)
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Re: 1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST 

Post#21 » by SecondTake » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:29 pm

Pillendreher wrote:29 points allowed since the 2 minute mark in the 1st quarter. That's 7 minutes played and like a 200 DRtG. Complete insanity. And I can't even point out anything that we're just obviously doing wrong.


Rotations seem good. We're contesting. Not any open layups. I don't know why Schroder keeps on calling to guard Butler though. Hasn't been a big issue so far, but seems like a weird matchup.
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Post#22 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:35 pm

SecondTake wrote:He has worms.


He had worms. He is rebuilding his endurance and strength that he lost as a result of the worms. If he still had worms they would have to say he is out for medical reasons, which they would just call flue like symptoms. Getting back in shape is personal. They could actually call it rehab, but then they would have to publicly acknowledge the worms.
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Re: 1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST 

Post#23 » by Pillendreher » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:37 pm

They are just not fast enough rotating out to these 3s
"I don't know of any player that, when the shot goes up, he doesn't want it to go in," Donovan said
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Re: 1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST 

Post#24 » by RunOKC » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:38 pm

Fire Billy Donovan

This defense is inexcusable
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Post#25 » by Kizz Fastfists » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:39 pm

RunOKC wrote:Fire Billy Donovan

This defense is inexcusable


Working as intended. Presti loves it. Billy probably gets an extension this off-season.
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Post#26 » by Pillendreher » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:39 pm

Westbrook just cost us the lädt 3 possessions by himself. Great.
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Re: 1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST 

Post#27 » by SecondTake » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:41 pm

RunOKC wrote:Fire Billy Donovan

This defense is inexcusable


Defense didn't look that bad to close the quarter. However it seems that we cant have good offense and good defense in the same game.
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Post#28 » by RalphSampsonJr » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:46 pm

SecondTake wrote:
RunOKC wrote:Fire Billy Donovan

This defense is inexcusable


Defense didn't look that bad to close the quarter. However it seems that we cant have good offense and good defense in the same game.


It really does feel that way.
Thunder either full on brixck8ng shots so they clamp up, or are scoring so dont put as much effort in on the other end. Frustrating
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Re: 1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST 

Post#29 » by RunOKC » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:47 pm

SecondTake wrote:
RunOKC wrote:Fire Billy Donovan

This defense is inexcusable


Defense didn't look that bad to close the quarter. However it seems that we cant have good offense and good defense in the same game.

They are getting all open 3's

The scheme is just wrong. Pack the paint but gamble for steals on the perimeter while leaving bigs stretched out. Terrible switching and then getting lost on the other teams shooters. The defense needs to be more disciplined in general, and obviously thats on players too, but something seems wrong with what coaches are running in general.

That's my take, maybe one of the basketball gurus on this forum can tell me what's wrong if that isn't what's going on.
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Post#30 » by Pillendreher » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:49 pm

Grant in: 27 points allowed in 16 minutes played
Grant off: 29 points allowed in 8 minutes played

I don't even think Grant by himself has anything to do with this, but this has to stop, period. We can't keep having these kind of stretches every **** game. This is like if you suddenly put some random guys in the game and they get destroyed by professional players.
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Post#31 » by Pillendreher » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:51 pm

RunOKC wrote:Pack the paint


That's a scheme issue imo. I've seen them do that throughout the whole season. They must have been told that swarming players is a priority, but you simply can't collapse on players and then ignore their teammates on the perimeter.
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Re: 1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST 

Post#32 » by SecondTake » Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:59 pm

RunOKC wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
RunOKC wrote:Fire Billy Donovan

This defense is inexcusable


Defense didn't look that bad to close the quarter. However it seems that we cant have good offense and good defense in the same game.

They are getting all open 3's

The scheme is just wrong. Pack the paint but gamble for steals on the perimeter while leaving bigs stretched out. Terrible switching and then getting lost on the other teams shooters. The defense needs to be more disciplined in general, and obviously thats on players too, but something seems wrong with what coaches are running in general.

That's my take, maybe one of the basketball gurus on this forum can tell me what's wrong if that isn't what's going on.


Well Philly isnt a great 3 point shooting team, I think the scheme here is to have them beat you from three and seal up the inside.
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Post#33 » by RunOKC » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:00 pm

SecondTake wrote:
RunOKC wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
Defense didn't look that bad to close the quarter. However it seems that we cant have good offense and good defense in the same game.

They are getting all open 3's

The scheme is just wrong. Pack the paint but gamble for steals on the perimeter while leaving bigs stretched out. Terrible switching and then getting lost on the other teams shooters. The defense needs to be more disciplined in general, and obviously thats on players too, but something seems wrong with what coaches are running in general.

That's my take, maybe one of the basketball gurus on this forum can tell me what's wrong if that isn't what's going on.


Well Philly isnt a great 3 point shooting team, I think the scheme here is to have them beat you from three and seal up the inside.

Every team does this though
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Re: 1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST 

Post#34 » by SecondTake » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:02 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Grant in: 27 points allowed in 16 minutes played
Grant off: 29 points allowed in 8 minutes played

I don't even think Grant by himself has anything to do with this, but this has to stop, period. We can't keep having these kind of stretches every **** game. This is like if you suddenly put some random guys in the game and they get destroyed by professional players.


Yeah, but can you explain what's going wrong? Because looking at it, it doesn't seem like we're defending poorly overall. It's definitely not like we have been doing the past 6-7 games.

TBH though I think the issue in this game is more the offense than defense though. We've been scoring like 60-70 in the half during our past few losses. If our offense was as good as it has been when losing, this would be a blowout.
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Post#35 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:09 pm

Pillendreher wrote:Westbrook just cost us the lädt 3 possessions by himself. Great.

Does your keyboard auto correct to German? That’s pretty cool.
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Re: 1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST 

Post#36 » by SecondTake » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:09 pm

RunOKC wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
RunOKC wrote:They are getting all open 3's

The scheme is just wrong. Pack the paint but gamble for steals on the perimeter while leaving bigs stretched out. Terrible switching and then getting lost on the other teams shooters. The defense needs to be more disciplined in general, and obviously thats on players too, but something seems wrong with what coaches are running in general.

That's my take, maybe one of the basketball gurus on this forum can tell me what's wrong if that isn't what's going on.


Well Philly isnt a great 3 point shooting team, I think the scheme here is to have them beat you from three and seal up the inside.

Every team does this though


Well I think its your best bet here. Ben is too big posting up Ross, Embidd is a beast and neither of them are very good outside the paint (Ben is unplayable really) Butler isn't really a major parameter threat either. So they pack the paint to prevent getting overpowered.
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Post#37 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:14 pm

SecondTake wrote:
RunOKC wrote:
SecondTake wrote:
Well Philly isnt a great 3 point shooting team, I think the scheme here is to have them beat you from three and seal up the inside.

Every team does this though


Well I think its your best bet here. Ben is too big posting up Ross, Embidd is a beast and neither of them are very good outside the paint (Ben is unplayable really) Butler isn't really a major parameter threat either. So they pack the paint to prevent getting overpowered.

I don’t understand this idea that butler isn’t a perimeter threat. He’s been a very good three point shooter for years.
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Re: 1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST 

Post#38 » by SecondTake » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:18 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
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RunOKC wrote:Every team does this though


Well I think its your best bet here. Ben is too big posting up Ross, Embidd is a beast and neither of them are very good outside the paint (Ben is unplayable really) Butler isn't really a major parameter threat either. So they pack the paint to prevent getting overpowered.

I don’t understand this idea that butler isn’t a perimeter threat. He’s been a very good three point shooter for years.


Well, he is. But he kills you at the rim. I guess you can go either way there, but with most of Phillys damage coming at the rim I don't think its a bad strategy to pack the paint.
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Post#39 » by ThunderBolt » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:21 pm

What a move by Adams.
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Re: 1/19 | G45: Oklahoma City Thunder at Philadelphia 76ers - 2:30PM CST 

Post#40 » by Pillendreher » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:24 pm

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