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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#881 » by Quattro » Mon Dec 3, 2018 2:12 pm

Wo1verine wrote:
Steve Urkel wrote:This is the pick which made me think “hmmm... maybe guys who get paid a ton of money to professionally scout and evaluate talent are better at it than me with my 8 hours of YouTube/Wikipedia reasearch.”

I don't know man GMs scout and get paid loads and still get it wrong - My 8 hours of YT/Wikipedia would have told me ( and many other fans) that Durant was easily the number one pick for example.


Oden's body just completely broke down on him. Nobody could have foreseen that. The guy would have very likely been a dominant center if he was healthy.

Of course, with the benefit of hindsight in the way the game has changed, Durant would very likely have still been the far more valuable pick at this stage in their careers.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#882 » by SHFT » Mon Dec 3, 2018 2:57 pm

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Wo1verine wrote:That's incorrect statement - All you have to do is read the draft threads. Fans are correct way more than you think.

Masai or any GM for that matter have been wrong lots.
"Fans"? Which "fans"? There are 1000s of us my guess is we are wrong way more often than we are right.

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Yeah, that claim that “fans are correct way more than you think” is total BS.


this thread is a classic example lol. People watch a few college games from their couch and read the mock boards and come up with an opinion. Fine. But we aren't flying people over to watch games, interview coaches and speak to other scouts.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#883 » by duppyy » Mon Dec 3, 2018 3:15 pm

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Steve Urkel wrote:This is the pick which made me think “hmmm... maybe guys who get paid a ton of money to professionally scout and evaluate talent are better at it than me with my 8 hours of YouTube/Wikipedia reasearch.”


I'd say so :lol:

Deyonte Davis and Timothy Luwawu, Demetrius Jackson were on everyone's minds (including mine)

Masai is the best drafter the NBA has ever seen.


Imagine if he hadn't passed on sabonis :(


Sabonis would be playing for Popovich then.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakiam 27th 

Post#884 » by Scooby Snax » Mon Dec 3, 2018 5:27 pm

Jer15Jer wrote:Giants of Africa. Masai always reppin'

maybe i'm reaching but I was never a fan of these type of comments.

anywaays, this thread does highlight that people came around after they found about about Siakam. Some funny takes in here though
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#885 » by I_Like_Dirt » Mon Dec 3, 2018 6:07 pm

I_Like_Dirt wrote:I'd say this is closer to Wright over Portis and taking a player nobody was expected at a much later pick (Powell and Siakam). Frankly, I think this was a great draft for Masai. I didn't see Siakam coming, but I don't have any way to scout every pick, and he's clearly done his homework. At first glance, I really like Siakam. If he's another Faried-ish player in a year or two, the Raptors will be laughing.



Hey, whaddaya know? A thread that makes me look relatively reasonable in hindsight.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#886 » by Potential » Mon Dec 3, 2018 11:14 pm

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Potential wrote:It's time to end the madness. #FireMasai


Lol here's a classic


LOL I remember I was just joking around and going with the mood around here. I honestly didn't care who we drafted because I had no idea about any of these players
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakiam 27th 

Post#887 » by HeadtopChunes » Mon Dec 3, 2018 11:18 pm

Scooby Snax wrote:
Jer15Jer wrote:Giants of Africa. Masai always reppin'

maybe i'm reaching but I was never a fan of these type of comments.

anywaays, this thread does highlight that people came around after they found about about Siakam. Some funny takes in here though


I think because this type of sentiment implies a level of nepotism and dismisses probably the countless hour of effort behind this decision.

Im sure theres some bias but i doubt enough to be significant in any real capacity.
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Post#888 » by thunderforce » Mon Dec 3, 2018 11:49 pm

Masai this and Masai that , I thought IBM Watson drafted Siakam .
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#889 » by jnfviet » Mon Jan 21, 2019 11:58 am

jnfviet wrote:Wow we got a steal in this draft. Just because, someone doesn't play for amazing division doesn't mean they're a bust right away. Check his draft express draft-workout and you will be impressed by his:
-Amazing Strides down the court
-Finish around the rim
-Can shoot the mid range jumper at a high rate
-Very well spoken for someone being from cameroon.
-Seems very lanky and atheltic.


Watch boys we won't miss Biz that much, but we do have two options for biz in Poeltl and Paskal.
#INMASAIWETRUST

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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakiam 27th 

Post#890 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:28 pm

Brinbe wrote:Abysmal pick. I don't trust Masai anymore.


from all your current posts about the decisions made by this organization backdating to this, you just don't like Masai or trusted him ever,
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakiam 27th 

Post#891 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:30 pm

TankNation123 wrote:"best kept secret in this years draft"


i may have been wrong about this pick - definitely an underrated move
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#892 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 12:31 pm

duppyy wrote:
NBA48mins wrote:If anyone has been paying attention, we have drafted the 2 highest PER players in the draft. We also did it with Delon Wright as well.


Watson sucks at drafting.


say again?
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#893 » by Saul Goodman » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:02 pm

GordanFreeman wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Steve Urkel wrote:This is the pick which made me think “hmmm... maybe guys who get paid a ton of money to professionally scout and evaluate talent are better at it than me with my 8 hours of YouTube/Wikipedia reasearch.”


I'd say so :lol:

Deyonte Davis and Timothy Luwawu, Demetrius Jackson were on everyone's minds (including mine)

Masai is the best drafter the NBA has ever seen.


Imagine if he hadn't passed on sabonis :(



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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakiam 27th 

Post#894 » by snomeister » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:26 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:
Scooby Snax wrote:
Jer15Jer wrote:Giants of Africa. Masai always reppin'

maybe i'm reaching but I was never a fan of these type of comments.

anywaays, this thread does highlight that people came around after they found about about Siakam. Some funny takes in here though


I think because this type of sentiment implies a level of nepotism and dismisses probably the countless hour of effort behind this decision.

Im sure theres some bias but i doubt enough to be significant in any real capacity.

I think it's moreso that Masai has identified that there's more talent in Africa than most others have thought, and because he has additional connections when it comes to those players, he's better able to recognize who's a stud when others might not know. It's a type of bias, but a calculated one. A lot of draft steals tend to be foreign players, because of the less amount of scouting available. But the less scouting doesn't apply to us as much when it comes to African players.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#895 » by snomeister » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:39 pm

JD225 wrote:Talking in absolutes about young prospects never ages well. This isn't nearly as bad as the 2007/2008 thread that had a serious discussion going about Durant being a taller Jamal Crawford because he wasn't shooting super efficiently and his defense sucked at the age of 19.

That was always kind of stupid though. Historically, rookies who are first options on an NBA team shoot really poorly. Just compare Durant's rookie season stats to LeBron's. They're not that different.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#896 » by pkiskool » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:42 pm

LoL just the first page has so many shambles
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Post#897 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:54 pm

pkiskool wrote:LoL just the first page has so many shambles


first few pages.

and those same posters say some crazy things on the main board at times too.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#898 » by duppyy » Mon Jan 21, 2019 8:18 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
duppyy wrote:
NBA48mins wrote:If anyone has been paying attention, we have drafted the 2 highest PER players in the draft. We also did it with Delon Wright as well.


Watson sucks at drafting.


say again?


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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakam 27th 

Post#899 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:33 pm

duppyy wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
duppyy wrote:
Watson sucks at drafting.


say again?


That's cute you can quote old posts. Here's a cookie.


thanks!
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Re: Raptors Select Paskal Siakiam 27th 

Post#900 » by dagger » Mon Jan 21, 2019 9:52 pm

zilby wrote:Basically from what I read is Bismack Biyombo without the athleticism


Nailed it! :lol:
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