Regular Season Game 47: Orlando Magic (19-27) at Atlanta Hawks (14-31)

[pepe1991]

Honest question
How many of you belive Isaac will become better player than Gordon in next 4 years ?

[basketballRob]

Honest question
How many of you belive Isaac will become better player than Gordon in next 4 years ?

Yes I feel he will be a better shooter, defender, and a go to guy at the end of games to create a shot.

[OrlandO]

Honest question
How many of you belive Isaac will become better player than Gordon in next 4 years ?

For clarification, do you mean better than Gordon is now or if he'll surpass whatever player Gordon becomes in the future?

[pepe1991]

Honest question
How many of you belive Isaac will become better player than Gordon in next 4 years ?

For clarification, do you mean better than Gordon is now or if he'll surpass whatever player Gordon becomes in the future?

Better than AG is now.

[fklt]

for reference, aaron in his second year already was a plus player per RPM, even though his rookie year was also riddled with injuries. i'm not sure isaac will ever reach aaron's second year performance, let alone his current.

btw like aaron, elfrid and oladipo were the same as in they were plus players by RPM when they first moved into the starting lineup. those prospects, even aaron who was considered raw, really spoiled us with their early performances and we haven't appreciated them enough back then. now we have players we hope one day maybe they might end up as important role players, if we had steph, klay like backcourts and run plays for them in just the perfect way that they could work with.

[OrlandO]

Honest question
How many of you belive Isaac will become better player than Gordon in next 4 years ?

For clarification, do you mean better than Gordon is now or if he'll surpass whatever player Gordon becomes in the future?

Better than AG is now.

Well Gordon isn't exactly at some high level on offense yet... he has improved every year, but five years in and he still can't drive that well or shoot from midrange, and his 3pt shot is just now hitting the slightly above average mark which might drop to average soon. He's been our second best player, but he's not a reliable offensive player... you can see it in his win-loss stats, either plays great or bad. Everybody is still banking on potential to get him over the hump into consistent player territory, which we'll hopefully start seeing next season.

Isaac himself has a long way to go, but fun fact: his driving, free throw, and midrange percentages are already better than Gordon in any season. The eye test also tells me Isaac has better 3pt shooting form and more finesse and better finishing ability on drives than Gordon at the same age/experience. Despite his current state, I wouldn't be surprised if Isaac is better in 4 years... that's a long time to develop.. and, again, the bar is not very high to get there. Of course, in four years Isaac will be 2 years older than Gordon is now, so he pretty much needs to develop into more of a finished product in that time.

[NavalAviator94]

For clarification, do you mean better than Gordon is now or if he'll surpass whatever player Gordon becomes in the future?

Better than AG is now.

Well Gordon isn't exactly at some high level on offense yet... he has improved every year, but five years in and he still can't drive that well or shoot from midrange, and his 3pt shot is just now hitting the slightly above average mark which might drop to average soon. He's been our second best player, but he's not a reliable offensive player... you can see it in his win-loss stats, either plays great or bad. Everybody is still banking on potential to get him over the hump into consistent player territory, which we'll hopefully start seeing next season.

Isaac himself has a long way to go, but fun fact: his driving, free throw, and midrange percentages are already better than Gordon in any season. The eye test also tells me Isaac has better 3pt shooting form and more finesse and better finishing ability on drives than Gordon at the same age/experience. Despite his current state, I wouldn't be surprised if Isaac is better in 4 years... that's a long time to develop.. and, again, the bar is not very high to get there. Of course, in four years Isaac will be 2 years older than Gordon is now, so he pretty much needs to develop into more of a finished product in that time.

100% agree with this and let's not forget that Isaac is going to benefit from a better coach and team around him. I'm buying he'll be better than Gordon is now in 4 years. If he can stay healthy on the floor for most of the remaining season and continue to progress as he's shown recently, he's going to be really good.

By the way, how about the shooting from Dedmon who couldn't shoot? Props to him for putting in that work.

[Furinkazan]

Honest question
How many of you belive Isaac will become better player than Gordon in next 4 years ?

I do
gotta belive in something

[VFX]

Honest question
How many of you belive Isaac will become better player than Gordon in next 4 years ?

It’s entirely dependent on the style of play offensively. Isaac is going to be the better defender. I think if AG is put into a faster paced system he’s going to be better in transition. Isaac is probably going to be better in a half court offense. Basically, if we keep Vuc I’d rather have Isaac next to him. If not, run AG with a ton of floor spacing in an open court.

[Audi]

Two completely different players, so it’s hard to say. It’s unfortunate that the onus to be SF has fallen on Isaac. Ideally, AG improves enough to play the 3 and Isaac, who very well may surpass 7 feet when all is said and done, can try to add some muscle and play the 4.

[tiderulz]

Two completely different players, so it’s hard to say. It’s unfortunate that the onus to be SF has fallen on Isaac. Ideally, AG improves enough to play the 3 and Isaac, who very well may surpass 7 feet when all is said and done, can try to add some muscle and play the 4.

only if we keep both of them.

[BadMofoPimp]

Honest question
How many of you belive Isaac will become better player than Gordon in next 4 years ?

Better defensively. That is about it.

[BadHombre]

I don’t have expectations of Isaac being significantly better than Gordon. I imagine he should be able to reach Gordon’s current level, which still makes him a very good piece to have on the roster (even if one of them has to be moved later for fit reasons).

I just don’t see him as someone that needs to be moved unless it’s for a superior piece in return. If it were a swap for Fultz/DSJr I’d be indifferent, other than wondering if we could have acquired those players without giving up a young prospect.

[BadMofoPimp]

I don’t have expectations of Isaac being significantly better than Gordon. I imagine he should be able to reach Gordon’s current level, which still makes him a very good piece to have on the roster (even if one of them has to be moved later for fit reasons).

I just don’t see him as someone that needs to be moved unless it’s for a superior piece in return. If it were a swap for Fultz/DSJr I’d be indifferent, other than wondering if we could have acquired those players without giving up a young prospect.

Slim has ability but doesn't have durability nor the alpha mentality to bypass AG in my opinion.