2018-2019 OKC Thunder Regular Season Pt 1: A Renewed Hope

[spearsy23]

I'm developing a man crush on Ferg.

[Dn4sty]

I'm developing a man crush on Ferg.

I just wish he could magically gain 15-20 pounds of muscle

[SecondTake]

I'm developing a man crush on Ferg.

I just wish he could magically gain 15-20 pounds of muscle

He will in the off season. Team is full of monsters that can guide him.

[slick_watts]

russ is 13/26 (50%) when attempting only one free throw.

when attempting two free throws westbrook is 55/97 (56.7%) on the first, and 72/97 (74.2%) on the second.

on the one occasion he's been fouled shooting a three he is 3/3 (100%).

[Pillendreher]

on the one occasion he's been fouled shooting a three he is 3/3 (100%).

So what you're saying is that Westbrook should take more 3s?

[slick_watts]

on the one occasion he's been fouled shooting a three he is 3/3 (100%).

So what you're saying is that Westbrook should take more 3s?

there was a time thunder realgm appreciated research like this. you won't find those numbers anywhere else. what happened to this place? sad.

[ThunderBolt]

russ is 13/26 (50%) when attempting only one free throw.

when attempting two free throws westbrook is 55/97 (56.7%) on the first, and 72/97 (74.2%) on the second.

on the one occasion he's been fouled shooting a three he is 3/3 (100%).

What's your theory on the reason for this?

[slick_watts]

russ is 13/26 (50%) when attempting only one free throw.

when attempting two free throws westbrook is 55/97 (56.7%) on the first, and 72/97 (74.2%) on the second.

on the one occasion he's been fouled shooting a three he is 3/3 (100%).

What's your theory on the reason for this?

i think it is less likely to be directly associated with the free throw rule changes. because he doesn't do his routine until after the first free throw. and he's 50% on free throws where he wouldn't be doing his routine at all.

yips or something physical.

[Old Man Game]

Not to be a prisoner of the moment because Ferg won't shoot this well forever, but you do have to ask, at some point, if he continues to play well, there's going to be some consternation over what to do with him and Roberson together. Who comes off the bench? Especially with Andre coming off that serious injury and needing to work his way back into game shape. You roll him out there and he can't hit the boradside of a barn and his defense isn't what it once was, how long do you give him when you've got a flamethrower that's previously started every game this season for him?

[ThunderBolt]

russ is 13/26 (50%) when attempting only one free throw.

when attempting two free throws westbrook is 55/97 (56.7%) on the first, and 72/97 (74.2%) on the second.

on the one occasion he's been fouled shooting a three he is 3/3 (100%).

What's your theory on the reason for this?

i think it is less likely to be directly associated with the free throw rule changes. because he doesn't do his routine until after the first free throw. and he's 50% on free throws where he wouldn't be doing his routine at all.

yips or something physical.

Obviously his overall percentage has dropped but was he always pretty consistent between the first and second attempt in his better shooting years?

[ThunderBolt]

Not to be a prisoner of the moment because Ferg won't shoot this well forever, but you do have to ask, at some point, if he continues to play well, there's going to be some consternation over what to do with him and Roberson together. Who comes off the bench? Especially with Andre coming off that serious injury and needing to work his way back into game shape. You roll him out there and he can't hit the boradside of a barn and his defense isn't what it once was, how long do you give him when you've got a flamethrower that's previously started every game this season for him?

Around two weeks ago on the radio Royce pretty much acknowledged this. He wasn't really reporting inside information as much as he was reading what he thought was the handwriting on the wall.

[slick_watts]

What's your theory on the reason for this?

i think it is less likely to be directly associated with the free throw rule changes. because he doesn't do his routine until after the first free throw. and he's 50% on free throws where he wouldn't be doing his routine at all.

yips or something physical.

Obviously his overall percentage has dropped but was he always pretty consistent between the first and second attempt in his better shooting years?

yes, he was always consistent. nylon calc had ft splits one year (2015-16) and westbrook was 80% on both ft attempts.

[slick_watts]

Not to be a prisoner of the moment because Ferg won't shoot this well forever, but you do have to ask, at some point, if he continues to play well, there's going to be some consternation over what to do with him and Roberson together. Who comes off the bench? Especially with Andre coming off that serious injury and needing to work his way back into game shape. You roll him out there and he can't hit the boradside of a barn and his defense isn't what it once was, how long do you give him when you've got a flamethrower that's previously started every game this season for him?

this would depend on what kind of shape dre is in. if he comes back this year sometime he would probably have to come off the bench and i wouldn't want to have to rely on him for anything. then you deal with long term next year based on where dre is at. 100% dre is an obvious choice over ferguson, but 100% dre would be a miracle.

[ThunderBolt]

Not to be a prisoner of the moment because Ferg won't shoot this well forever, but you do have to ask, at some point, if he continues to play well, there's going to be some consternation over what to do with him and Roberson together. Who comes off the bench? Especially with Andre coming off that serious injury and needing to work his way back into game shape. You roll him out there and he can't hit the boradside of a barn and his defense isn't what it once was, how long do you give him when you've got a flamethrower that's previously started every game this season for him?

this would depend on what kind of shape dre is in. if he comes back this year sometime he would probably have to come off the bench and i wouldn't want to have to rely on him for anything. then you deal with long term next year based on where dre is at. 100% dre is an obvious choice over ferguson, but 100% dre would be a miracle.

I think it would be equally disappointing if at the start of next year Ferguson had plateaued in his progress. By the time Dre could be 100% Ferguson might be that better option if he continues to develop. It's a big if but its less of a dream than it seemed a couple of months ago.

[slick_watts]

Not to be a prisoner of the moment because Ferg won't shoot this well forever, but you do have to ask, at some point, if he continues to play well, there's going to be some consternation over what to do with him and Roberson together. Who comes off the bench? Especially with Andre coming off that serious injury and needing to work his way back into game shape. You roll him out there and he can't hit the boradside of a barn and his defense isn't what it once was, how long do you give him when you've got a flamethrower that's previously started every game this season for him?

this would depend on what kind of shape dre is in. if he comes back this year sometime he would probably have to come off the bench and i wouldn't want to have to rely on him for anything. then you deal with long term next year based on where dre is at. 100% dre is an obvious choice over ferguson, but 100% dre would be a miracle.

I think it would be equally disappointing if at the start of next year Ferguson had plateaued in his progress. By the time Dre could be 100% Ferguson might be that better option if he continues to develop. It's a big if but its less of a dream than it seemed a couple of months ago.

if ferg gets to that point by next year where he could legitimate challenge a 100% dre for playing time then that's a great problem to have. i don't think he's very close.

[Old Man Game]

Not to be a prisoner of the moment because Ferg won't shoot this well forever, but you do have to ask, at some point, if he continues to play well, there's going to be some consternation over what to do with him and Roberson together. Who comes off the bench? Especially with Andre coming off that serious injury and needing to work his way back into game shape. You roll him out there and he can't hit the boradside of a barn and his defense isn't what it once was, how long do you give him when you've got a flamethrower that's previously started every game this season for him?

this would depend on what kind of shape dre is in. if he comes back this year sometime he would probably have to come off the bench and i wouldn't want to have to rely on him for anything. then you deal with long term next year based on where dre is at. 100% dre is an obvious choice over ferguson, but 100% dre would be a miracle.

And (not to get too ahead of ourselves here) but there's a decent chance that Ferg will be better in year 3 than he is in year 2 so whatever that gap between is presently may be even further narrowed, BUT 'Dre will be getting paid more. And this franchise has a history of being weird about guaranteeing playing time proportionate to salary.

All of which is to say, I'm foreseeing a lot of fan disgust percolating on this front.

[thekaoswithin]

Dennis is shooting 33% from 3. Not good, but I think it's passable enough for spacing purposes.

[Pillendreher]

DRtG relative to opponents' average ORtG: 4.53 pp100p better
ORtG relative to opponents' average DRtG: 1.17 pp100p worse

Relative to league average, we're +0.2 pp100p better on offense and 4.5 pp100p better on defense. If we can get that defense back to 5-6 and just be above agerage offensively, we'll really have something.

[Pillendreher]

Can we take a moment to appreciate Ferguson "blocking" for Paul George last night?



They just grow up so fast

[Dn4sty]

Can we take a moment to appreciate Ferguson "blocking" for Paul George last night?



They just grow up so fast

From looking like a guy who couldn’t play basketball in summer league to this is nothing short of amazing