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OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans

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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#281 » by Uncle Dennis » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:21 pm

Lol @ Davis coming here. Id give up just about anything though.

FVV + Powell + OG + JV + Siakam + two unprotected firsts for Davis + Mirotic

Lowry/Green/Kawhi/Davis/Ibaka

Delon/Mccaw/Miles/Mirotic/Monroe

Go 8 deep in the playoffs.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#282 » by HeadtopChunes » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:22 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:On another note, I’ve never understood how anyone would build around a C/PF anymore, unless it’s a point forward like James or Durant. I’ve always thought that a point forward, a true small forward, or guards are better to build around. Davis really hasn’t moved thatvteam forward either. He goes to play with James and then what... he’s complaining like Embiid with Butler about his usage? He’s Love or Bosh playing on the perimeter and changing his entire game? Thus will be interesting because I can see all parties here making bad choices.


I think it works when the guy has the ability to play make or carry an offence. ADs supporting cast is really weak but he's more of a play finisher than the creator himself. Which what hes supposed to do since he's a big man but it lowers the floor of your team. Unlike someone like Jokic who can be the offense and create for his teammates.

But that's why his skill set would be very valuable on a strong team like us or with Lebron, he does everything but carry your offence, when you have someone who can do that for him its a very good duo.

I think most superstars can be categorized into floor or ceiling raisers, someone like AD is a ceiling raiser that can make a good team great but cant carry a weak team like Westbrook can.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#283 » by Uncle Dennis » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:25 pm

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Johnny Bball wrote:On another note, I’ve never understood how anyone would build around a C/PF anymore, unless it’s a point forward like James or Durant. I’ve always thought that a point forward, a true small forward, or guards are better to build around. Davis really hasn’t moved thatvteam forward either. He goes to play with James and then what... he’s complaining like Embiid with Butler about his usage? He’s Love or Bosh playing on the perimeter and changing his entire game? Thus will be interesting because I can see all parties here making bad choices.


I think it works when the guy has the ability to play make or carry an offence. ADs supporting cast is really weak but he's more of a play finisher than the creator himself. Which what hes supposed to do since he's a big man but it lowers the floor of your team. Unlike someone like Jokic who can be the offense and create for his teammates.

But that's why his skill set would be very valuable on a strong team like us or with Lebron, he does everything but carry your offence, when you have someone who can do that for him its a very good duo.

I think most superstars can be categorized into floor or ceiling raisers, someone like AD is a ceiling raiser that can make a good team great but cant carry a weak team like Westbrook can.


Can't you categorize AD as a point forward? Perhaps not like Bron, but he has the skills of a guard. He was a PG throughout high school.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#284 » by SurgeIblocka » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:25 pm

Kawhi and Davis would dominate the East for years. :droop:
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#285 » by Mahoner » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:25 pm

My take (which I posted months ago):

You give the Pels the Raps version of the Godfather offer - pretty much whatever it takes to make salaries work.

Then like its mentioned you make a 2019 run with Lowry/Kawhi/AD. And even if (more than likely) Kawhi leaves, you can run back Lowry/AD in 2020 knowing you'll still be competing. Then by the 2020 trade deadline, you can trade both and get back some assets/expiring know that you've maxed out your competitive window and start a glorious tank/rebuild.

BONUS - You'll shed some of the bandwagon Raptor fans and only the trueblood will remain.

And to me, this is all a worst case scenario.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#287 » by HeadtopChunes » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:29 pm

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Johnny Bball wrote:On another note, I’ve never understood how anyone would build around a C/PF anymore, unless it’s a point forward like James or Durant. I’ve always thought that a point forward, a true small forward, or guards are better to build around. Davis really hasn’t moved thatvteam forward either. He goes to play with James and then what... he’s complaining like Embiid with Butler about his usage? He’s Love or Bosh playing on the perimeter and changing his entire game? Thus will be interesting because I can see all parties here making bad choices.


I think it works when the guy has the ability to play make or carry an offence. ADs supporting cast is really weak but he's more of a play finisher than the creator himself. Which what hes supposed to do since he's a big man but it lowers the floor of your team. Unlike someone like Jokic who can be the offense and create for his teammates.

But that's why his skill set would be very valuable on a strong team like us or with Lebron, he does everything but carry your offence, when you have someone who can do that for him its a very good duo.

I think most superstars can be categorized into floor or ceiling raisers, someone like AD is a ceiling raiser that can make a good team great but cant carry a weak team like Westbrook can.


Can't you categorize AD as a point forward? Perhaps not like Bron, but he has the skills of a guard. He was a PG throughout high school.


He has gaurd skills as far as advanced dribble moves, (he had one or two shamgods this season) but he cant really run an offense like Lerbon can.

He is averaging a career high in assists so hes improved but he cant run PnRs more of playmaking from the post and the short roll. So i wouldnt categorize him as a potential ball handler which imo is what a point forward is
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#288 » by Johnny Bball » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:29 pm

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Johnny Bball wrote:On another note, I’ve never understood how anyone would build around a C/PF anymore, unless it’s a point forward like James or Durant. I’ve always thought that a point forward, a true small forward, or guards are better to build around. Davis really hasn’t moved thatvteam forward either. He goes to play with James and then what... he’s complaining like Embiid with Butler about his usage? He’s Love or Bosh playing on the perimeter and changing his entire game? Thus will be interesting because I can see all parties here making bad choices.


I think it works when the guy has the ability to play make or carry an offence. ADs supporting cast is really weak but he's more of a play finisher than the creator himself. Which what hes supposed to do since he's a big man but it lowers the floor of your team. Unlike someone like Jokic who can be the offense and create for his teammates.

But that's why his skill set would be very valuable on a strong team like us or with Lebron, he does everything but carry your offence, when you have someone who can do that for him its a very good duo.

I think most superstars can be categorized into floor or ceiling raisers, someone like AD is a ceiling raiser that can make a good team great but cant carry a weak team like Westbrook can.


I’m saying without Leonard and Lowry, I’m not so interested. I think Davis' is a better 2nd piece than first. I dont think he does carry the offense and that has to be someone that also distributes. His cast wasn’t always so weak. His current group of starters is pretty good and was better last year. Don’t get me wrong, great offensive player, but just talking about how championship teams are built now and it doesn’t seem to be at his position as the primary option.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#289 » by Uncle Dennis » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:31 pm

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I think it works when the guy has the ability to play make or carry an offence. ADs supporting cast is really weak but he's more of a play finisher than the creator himself. Which what hes supposed to do since he's a big man but it lowers the floor of your team. Unlike someone like Jokic who can be the offense and create for his teammates.

But that's why his skill set would be very valuable on a strong team like us or with Lebron, he does everything but carry your offence, when you have someone who can do that for him its a very good duo.

I think most superstars can be categorized into floor or ceiling raisers, someone like AD is a ceiling raiser that can make a good team great but cant carry a weak team like Westbrook can.


Can't you categorize AD as a point forward? Perhaps not like Bron, but he has the skills of a guard. He was a PG throughout high school.


He has gaurd skills as far as advanced dribble moves, (he had one or two shamgods this season) but he cant really run an offense like Lerbon can.

He is averaging a career high in assists so hes improved but he cant run PnRs more of playmaking from the post and the short roll. So i wouldnt categorize him as a potential ball handler which imo is what a point forward is


Def not on the level of Lebron, or someone like Giannis.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#290 » by RonaldArtest » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:34 pm

I'm happy he's at least going this route so NO can recoup some assets instead of being led on and left in the dark. That franchise is so poorly run.
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Post#291 » by BramptonYute » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:34 pm

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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#292 » by Raptorfan2012 » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:37 pm

As much as Anthony Davis is a very talented player, does anyone ask why for such a franchise player, NOP has basically gone nowhere over the last few seasons?
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#293 » by kai_bouche » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:38 pm

niQ wrote:Did we get AD yet?


Spoiler:
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#294 » by HeadtopChunes » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:39 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:
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Johnny Bball wrote:On another note, I’ve never understood how anyone would build around a C/PF anymore, unless it’s a point forward like James or Durant. I’ve always thought that a point forward, a true small forward, or guards are better to build around. Davis really hasn’t moved thatvteam forward either. He goes to play with James and then what... he’s complaining like Embiid with Butler about his usage? He’s Love or Bosh playing on the perimeter and changing his entire game? Thus will be interesting because I can see all parties here making bad choices.


I think it works when the guy has the ability to play make or carry an offence. ADs supporting cast is really weak but he's more of a play finisher than the creator himself. Which what hes supposed to do since he's a big man but it lowers the floor of your team. Unlike someone like Jokic who can be the offense and create for his teammates.

But that's why his skill set would be very valuable on a strong team like us or with Lebron, he does everything but carry your offence, when you have someone who can do that for him its a very good duo.

I think most superstars can be categorized into floor or ceiling raisers, someone like AD is a ceiling raiser that can make a good team great but cant carry a weak team like Westbrook can.


I’m saying without Leonard and Lowry, I’m not so interested. I think Davis' is a better 2nd piece than first. I dont think he does carry the offense and that has to be someone that also distributes. His cast wasn’t always so weak. His current group of starters is pretty good and was better last year. Don’t get me wrong, great offensive player, but just talking about how championship teams are built now and it doesn’t seem to be at his position as the primary option.


in that case i agree with you. AD is a perfect 2nd option but building around him is much tougher than gaurds or wings.

Now I think Masai would do a much better job than demps but thats an entirely different topic.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#295 » by MEDIC » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:40 pm

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That’s fair. Bosh should have done this


Was thinking the exact same thing. Gotta give AD props for this. It's a hard thing to do, but the right thing to do for the organization & the fans in NO.
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Post#296 » by yassillio » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:40 pm

Holiday + Mirotic + Moore for JV , Fred , Powell and Miles + pick(s)
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#297 » by Cyrus » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:41 pm

Pelicans should just wait till July and milk the Celtics or have other teams up their offer, there isn't really incentive to get anything done in the next 10 days, unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

I think Philly should just offer Ben Simmons, The Miami 2021 first, Their own first, Fultz, and salary filler, and really own the East. AD, Embid, Butler pretty good 3.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#298 » by Uncle Dennis » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:43 pm

Cyrus wrote:Pelicans should just wait till July and milk the Celtics or have other teams up their offer, there isn't really incentive to get anything done in the next 10 days, unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

I think Philly should just offer Ben Simmons, The Miami 2021 first, Their own first, Fultz, and salary filler, and really own the East. AD, Embid, Butler pretty good 3.


Yeah Simmons is the best "prospect" (he's pretty much a star already) that they could get. If he develops a jump shot he rules the league for the next decade. Would suck for us though, we'd have no chance at making the finals with a godly Philly team.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#299 » by mtcan » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:45 pm

Cyrus wrote:Pelicans should just wait till July and milk the Celtics or have other teams up their offer, there isn't really incentive to get anything done in the next 10 days, unless they get an offer they can't refuse.

I think Philly should just offer Ben Simmons, The Miami 2021 first, Their own first, Fultz, and salary filler, and really own the East. AD, Embid, Butler pretty good 3.

Embiid and Davis might not be a great fit. I don't see Philly in the mix.

Portland could be a great fit. Imagine a package that includes McCollum and Nurkic.
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Re: OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans 

Post#300 » by Raptaz » Mon Jan 28, 2019 4:45 pm

All the people saying Boston, without knowledge, yall need to stop.
You also think Lakers have enough ? Funny report came out they want to trade forms super star and rhe Davis requests a trade .tbh Lakers don't have enough and I swe him coming to the east.

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