OT: WOJ: Anthony Davis requests trade; no intention of resigning with Pelicans

ratul · Post #341 » by **ratul** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:16 pm

xavis wrote:
ratul wrote:God if the pels give Davis to the lakers, it will be an uproar. Lakers have nothing to offer. I am not interested in Ingram and the like. I would try and get jaylen brown and rozier

Brown and Rozier stink. Actually Rozier stinks, and Brown is just overrated.

These were the starting two on a team that also made it to the finals. What has Ingram done?

Or maybe smart. I like smart as a player.

Tor_Raps · Post #342 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:16 pm

SurgeIblocka wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Honestly we have to do this. Worst case Kawhi still leaves in the offseason, we trade AD to the Celtics for Tatum Brown and Picks, and begin our rebuild. There is absolutely NOTHING for us to lose here.

Now the Pelicans just have to love our package of JV, SIakam , 2 of Fvv, Powell, Delon, OG and a lottery protected 1st in 2021 that convert to 2 2nd rounders if not conveyed. Keep our draft picks by giving more of our current young players to ensure

We could also be a landing spot for all the buyout candidates to help boster our bench.

Boston wont trade those assets tonis for one year.

Boston wasn't getting AD until this offseason anyways. Why wouldn't they offer the same package they were going to offer the Pelicans? Tatum will for sure be part of that package with some of their picks. They can keep Brown.

Johnny Bball · Post #343 » by **Johnny Bball** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:17 pm

Lol, people offering/proposing giving up just wayyyyy too much in this thread

Post #344 » by **niQ** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:17 pm

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mtcan · Post #345 » by **mtcan** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:17 pm

everdiso wrote:I think we could put together a worthwhile package for him, but I just think we're going to get outbid. Other teams will give up the kitchen sink for him.

Lowry, Ibaka, Delon, OG and first round pick.

Uncle Dennis · Post #346 » by **Uncle Dennis** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:17 pm

ratul wrote:
xavis wrote:
ratul wrote:God if the pels give Davis to the lakers, it will be an uproar. Lakers have nothing to offer. I am not interested in Ingram and the like. I would try and get jaylen brown and rozier

Brown and Rozier stink. Actually Rozier stinks, and Brown is just overrated.

These were the starting two on a team that also made it to the finals. What has Ingram done?

Rozier is bad, ask any Boston fan. Brown was overhyped, he's a nice player, but not what the Pelicans are looking for. Ingram has more upside than Brown, but I'm not saying I'm a fan of him either. Tatum and Kuzma are the most valuable pieces from the Celtics and Lakers imo.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #347 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:18 pm

Butler, Fultz, Bolden, and the MIA pick for Anthony Davis

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #348 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:19 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:Lol, people offering/proposing giving up just wayyyyy too much in this thread

well we're basically offering the kitchen sink at this moment and time. and then somewhere in all the names we are throwing out, therein lies the package.

yes we are offering way more but it probably won't be far from the truth.

ratul · Post #349 » by **ratul** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:19 pm

xavis wrote:
ratul wrote:
xavis wrote:
Brown and Rozier stink. Actually Rozier stinks, and Brown is just overrated.

These were the starting two on a team that also made it to the finals. What has Ingram done?

Rozier is bad, ask any Boston fan. Brown was overhyped, he's a nice player, but not what the Pelicans are looking for. Ingram has more upside than Brown, but I'm not saying I'm a fan of him either. Tatum and Kuzma are the most valuable pieces from the Celtics and Lakers imo.

I’d rather have brown and smart than kuzma and Ingram. Tatum is better but prob unlikely and pels have no negotiating power. Ad can walk

sogood · Post #350 » by **sogood** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:20 pm

ratul wrote:God if the pels give Davis to the lakers, it will be an uproar. Lakers have nothing to offer. I am not interested in Ingram and the like. I would try and get jaylen brown and rozier

Lmao what in the world.

Tatum have the most value, though he is starting to becoming overrated with the way he has played this season.

Kuzma has averaged 22/7/3 for the last few months. Value is close to Tatum.

Ingram have more value than Brown on potential alone. Brown have been trash this season.

Ball is improving his shot. Dude is already a lockdown defender and elite playmaker.

Rozier is just straight up trash. Don’t even know why you brought him up.

Uncle Dennis · Post #351 » by **Uncle Dennis** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:20 pm

ratul wrote:
xavis wrote:
ratul wrote:
These were the starting two on a team that also made it to the finals. What has Ingram done?

Rozier is bad, ask any Boston fan. Brown was overhyped, he's a nice player, but not what the Pelicans are looking for. Ingram has more upside than Brown, but I'm not saying I'm a fan of him either. Tatum and Kuzma are the most valuable pieces from the Celtics and Lakers imo.

I’d rather have brown and smart than kuzma and Ingram. Tatum is better but prob unlikely and pels have no negotiating power. Ad can walk

I'm shocked then, I would assume the overwhelming majority would take Kuzma + Ingram. Kuzma and Ingram both have much more upside than Brown.

All that matters to me is that AD ends up a Laker and not a Celtic.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #352 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:21 pm

xavis wrote:
ratul wrote:
xavis wrote:
Brown and Rozier stink. Actually Rozier stinks, and Brown is just overrated.

These were the starting two on a team that also made it to the finals. What has Ingram done?

Rozier is bad, ask any Boston fan. Brown was overhyped, he's a nice player, but not what the Pelicans are looking for. Ingram has more upside than Brown, but I'm not saying I'm a fan of him either. Tatum and Kuzma are the most valuable pieces from the Celtics and Lakers imo.

i think Tatum, Kuzma and Siakam are on the same level in terms of worth.

its what comes after those players in the package that would entice the Pelicans.

pagal · Post #353 » by **pagal** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:25 pm

xavis wrote:
ratul wrote:
xavis wrote:
Rozier is bad, ask any Boston fan. Brown was overhyped, he's a nice player, but not what the Pelicans are looking for. Ingram has more upside than Brown, but I'm not saying I'm a fan of him either. Tatum and Kuzma are the most valuable pieces from the Celtics and Lakers imo.

I’d rather have brown and smart than kuzma and Ingram. Tatum is better but prob unlikely and pels have no negotiating power. Ad can walk

I'm shocked then, I would assume the overwhelming majority would take Kuzma + Ingram. Kuzma and Ingram both have much more upside than Brown.

All that matters to me is that AD ends up a Laker and not a Celtic.

lol, the celTURDS aren't getting him...delusional morons have been claiming for months that AD won't ask for trade during the summer because he'd want to go the shi*thole that is Boston.

RapsAndJays21 · Post #354 » by **RapsAndJays21** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:25 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
xavis wrote:
ratul wrote:
These were the starting two on a team that also made it to the finals. What has Ingram done?

Rozier is bad, ask any Boston fan. Brown was overhyped, he's a nice player, but not what the Pelicans are looking for. Ingram has more upside than Brown, but I'm not saying I'm a fan of him either. Tatum and Kuzma are the most valuable pieces from the Celtics and Lakers imo.

i think Tatum, Kuzma and Siakam are on the same level in terms of worth.

its what comes after those players in the package that would entice the Pelicans.

While I agree Siakim has crazy talent, I don't think his name is as "sexy" as the other two at this point in time. Hopefully the Pelicans deal with us though.

PhilBlackson · Post #355 » by **PhilBlackson** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:26 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Butler, Fultz, Bolden, and the MIA pick for Anthony Davis

Weak.

That MIA pick is going to in the mid-lottery, listing Fultz is borderline like listing Bennett as an asset and Butler won't be re-signing (he's stated his plan is to retire by 34 which lines up perfectly with just about any other team offering him a max) and if he did re-sign how long do you give it before he implodes from being on a losing team with no hopes to get any better??

bonbons · Post #356 » by **bonbons** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:27 pm

Good for him, at least he not pulling a Bosh and giving them false hope when he knows he is gone.

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #357 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:27 pm

RapsAndJays21 wrote:
LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
xavis wrote:
Rozier is bad, ask any Boston fan. Brown was overhyped, he's a nice player, but not what the Pelicans are looking for. Ingram has more upside than Brown, but I'm not saying I'm a fan of him either. Tatum and Kuzma are the most valuable pieces from the Celtics and Lakers imo.

i think Tatum, Kuzma and Siakam are on the same level in terms of worth.

its what comes after those players in the package that would entice the Pelicans.

While I agree Siakim has crazy talent, I don't think his name is as "sexy" as the other two at this point in time. Hopefully the Pelicans deal with us though.

sure. and only Tatum seems like he can be a goto scorer down the road. but i don't see any of them being franchise types. all of them are role players being the 2nd or 3rd fiddle to a true franchise player

Uncle Dennis · Post #358 » by **Uncle Dennis** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:28 pm

pagal wrote:
xavis wrote:
ratul wrote:

I’d rather have brown and smart than kuzma and Ingram. Tatum is better but prob unlikely and pels have no negotiating power. Ad can walk

I'm shocked then, I would assume the overwhelming majority would take Kuzma + Ingram. Kuzma and Ingram both have much more upside than Brown.

All that matters to me is that AD ends up a Laker and not a Celtic.

lol, the celTURDS aren't getting him...delusional morons have been claiming for months that AD won't ask for trade during the summer because he'd want to go the shi*thole that is Boston.

Yeah. Plus the Rich Paul agent switch a few months ago makes things just too obvious at this point.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #359 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:28 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Butler, Fultz, Bolden, and the MIA pick for Anthony Davis

Weak.

That MIA pick is going to in the mid-lottery, listing Fultz is borderline like listing Bennett as an asset and Butler won't be re-signing (he's stated his plan is to retire by 34 which lines up perfectly with just about any other team offering him a max) and if he did re-sign how long do you give it before he implodes from being on a losing team with no hopes to get any better??

If they are willing to trade Benjamin Simmons, I think Davis goes there.

SurgeIblocka · Post #360 » by **SurgeIblocka** » Mon Jan 28, 2019 5:29 pm

Ok media now starting to mention Toronto as an option. See video below, I would trade that package for Davis and I think its better than the philly package around Butler they are proposing, no way Butler resigns in NO and if he does it will be max and a disaster with him wanting out after a year.

https://www.si.com/nba/video/2019/01/28/anthony-davis-trade-rumors-celtics-76ers-raptors