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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1481 » by K For Three » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:49 pm

Raptors fans took over the GB thread it seems now on AD. They are thinking Siakam is a much better prospect then Tatum. lmfao.

Yep Pascal Siakam is going to put fans asses in the seats
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1482 » by K For Three » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:50 pm

The Gordon/Mook angle is interesting too. It's pretty damn clear Brad loves Morris. reload said in the summer Mook wanted more playing time and requested a trade that Ainge denied. It's possible he is a veteran we really do want to keep around and yeah he's another one under Klutch.....
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1483 » by canman1971 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:51 pm

This has gotten insane. And the fact that people are still treating Hayward like he's "the worst FA signing in Celtics history or he's Jirii Welsch 2.0" is absolutely absurd. He suffered a horrific injury that obviously it's gonna take awhile to come back from. That time frame, given the injury is unknown. Could he not return to form? Of course, but to call it definitive by now is just stirring the pot or naive.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1484 » by _UnderScore » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:51 pm

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Naw, we’ll want to include Hayward to free up cap space to sign others. Lowe said on his podcast that he believed NO would want Hayward, too, as its a great buy low opportunity on a star with only 2 years left on his deal.

It’d be Hayward+Tatum+4 or so firsts. We then resign Morris.

We'll see. Have a hard time believing rebuilding New Orleans wants anything to do with $30 million Jiri Welsch 2.0

He's a name player and you could argue he will be a lot better next season.



But you could just as easily argue he will never be the same player again. Then you have basically $60 mill in dead money. Actually now that I’m thinking about it, taking bad contracts might be a smart play for the rebuild for the Pels. Trade cap space for draft picks until you have to sign Brown or Tatum or both to a big deal
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1485 » by canman1971 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:52 pm

Kyrie For Three wrote:Raptors fans took over the GB thread it seems now on AD. They are thinking Siakam is a much better prospect then Tatum. lmfao.

Yep Pascal Siakam is going to put fans asses in the seats

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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1486 » by LuckyLeprechaun » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:52 pm

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Celts17Pride wrote:Everyone in this topic should realize that if the Celtics trade for AD and beat everyone else's offer that the most likely trade scenario would have the Celtics trading Tatum, Brown and Smart for AD. It's the most likely and the one where the money actually works.

The only other way would be to involve Horford or Hayward both which is very unlikely in my opinion.

Be careful what you wish for.
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Lol but in all seriousness, we likely keep one of those guys. If not, well, generational mvp level talent. Smart, Tatum, and Brown are not that.

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It's going to be near impossible to keep any of those three unless you include Horford or Hayward which I think is very unlikely.
Horford would be on an expiring contract giving NO cap space in 2020 while their rebuild is in full swing. I don't see why that would be terrible for them.

Hayward would be the gamble play for them. If he gets back to Utah Hayward they have an all star still in his prime plus all the assets we gave up. If he doesn't it is 2 years of a bad contract. Not good but not devastating for a rebuilding team.

In either a Horford or Hayward deal we would probably take back a 2nd player because both those guys are making more than AD to begin with.

I actually think the Smart+Tatum+Brown deal doesn't make a ton of sense for NO because then they have the same problem we have right now: having to bench one of them.

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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1487 » by K For Three » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:52 pm

canman1971 wrote:This has gotten insane. And the fact that people are still treating Hayward like he's "the worst FA signing in Celtics history or he's Jirii Welsch 2.0" is absolutely absurd. He suffered a horrific injury that obviously it's gonna take awhile to come back from. That time frame, given the injury is unknown. Could he not return to form? Of course, but to call it definitive by now is just stirring the pot or naive.

I mean dude we might keep Gordon or we might not. And it's very very possible come this fall (or even by playoff time) Gordon looks pretty damn good again.
There is also the possibility IMO that Gordon might even agree in the end that his Boston career got off to a rocky start and he would not mind starting fresh somewhere else.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1488 » by Froob » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:53 pm

Kyrie For Three wrote:Raptors fans took over the GB thread it seems now on AD. They are thinking Siakam is a much better prospect then Tatum. lmfao.

Yep Pascal Siakam is going to put fans asses in the seats

I soooo sooo badly want to see Kawhi to leave. Hell I might even rather see him on the Lakers.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1489 » by canman1971 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:53 pm

Also, ever notice that all the morons on the GB are from teams who haven't won **** either ever or the last 40 years? Reason #1 to shut it down.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1490 » by The Corey's » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:54 pm

Froob wrote:Is it possible that the Lakers power play this summer is exactly what we want? That could ward off less ballsy teams and lead to us getting AD and keeping Tatum (annnnnnnd Smart?)? JB, all the picks, time lord, Hayward for AD?


This is my thoughts.

Rozier is a free agent but I feel like we could make it work (signs qualifier)

Rozier and brown plus all our picks...

Look, I know its not equal value. I know that it MIGHT not be better than kuzma and Ingram.

However, at what cost to the celtics is it gonna take for the pelicans to trade him out of their conference?

Warriors aren't going anywhere in the near future and if they wanna give the lakers Davis to he combined with lebron and likely Leonard or someone like that and create another obstacle in their way then we have no chance. That isnt competance.

I'm not saying the lakers cant beat that package but I'm saying that they cant beat it so badly that its be worth keeping Davis in their conference
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1491 » by Celts17Pride » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:54 pm

canman1971 wrote:This has gotten insane. And the fact that people are still treating Hayward like he's "the worst FA signing in Celtics history or he's Jirii Welsch 2.0" is absolutely absurd. He suffered a horrific injury that obviously it's gonna take awhile to come back from. That time frame, given the injury is unknown. Could he not return to form? Of course, but to call it definitive by now is just stirring the pot or naive.

Not saying he won't return to form. Just saying right now he is playing like Jiri Welsch. Which he is.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1492 » by canman1971 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:54 pm

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canman1971 wrote:This has gotten insane. And the fact that people are still treating Hayward like he's "the worst FA signing in Celtics history or he's Jirii Welsch 2.0" is absolutely absurd. He suffered a horrific injury that obviously it's gonna take awhile to come back from. That time frame, given the injury is unknown. Could he not return to form? Of course, but to call it definitive by now is just stirring the pot or naive.

I mean dude we might keep Gordon or we might not. And it's very very possible come this fall (or even by playoff time) Gordon looks pretty damn good again.
There is also the possibility IMO that Gordon might even agree in the end that his Boston career got off to a rocky start and he would not mind starting fresh somewhere else.

Oh, I totally get that. My point is those going to such moronic extremes to categorize him in the present.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1493 » by SmartWentCrazy » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:56 pm

Kyrie For Three wrote:
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Celts17Pride wrote:Everyone in this topic should realize that if the Celtics trade for AD and beat everyone else's offer that the most likely trade scenario would have the Celtics trading Tatum, Brown and Smart for AD. It's the most likely and the one where the money actually works.

The only other way would be to involve Horford or Hayward both which is very unlikely in my opinion.

Be careful what you wish for.


Naw, we’ll want to include Hayward to free up cap space to sign others. Lowe said on his podcast that he believed NO would want Hayward, too, as its a great buy low opportunity on a star with only 2 years left on his deal.

It’d be Hayward+Tatum+4 or so firsts. We then resign Morris.

Holy **** is keeping Mook a way to appease Klutch in the end? I mean we play the guy this year too like he's one of our real core.

edit: would it be Tatum/Smart and picks galore?


Yah, paying Mook is paying the troll toll.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1494 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:58 pm

klemen4 wrote:If we have a chance to make offer in summer only option money wise is:
12 mill Smart or Rozier s&t
7.8 mill Tatum or 6.7 mill Brown
2.8 to 3.6 mill Sac pick (10th to 14 pick)

That would be enough as AD salary will be 27 mill... if not we add Yabusele 3.1 million as filler.

Smart, Tatum, sac pick, Mem pick imo will be the trade.

For sure Danny will try to keep one of Smart/ Brown out if the deal.


Or Hayward. It's no longer obvious to me that we should keep Hayward over Smart.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1495 » by ConstableGeneva » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:59 pm

154 days before Anthony Davis is a Celtic. I'm not sure I can wait that long.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1496 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:59 pm

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klemen4 wrote:If we have a chance to make offer in summer only option money wise is:
12 mill Smart or Rozier s&t
7.8 mill Tatum or 6.7 mill Brown
2.8 to 3.6 Sac pick (10th to 14 pick)

That would be enough, if not we add Yabusele 3.1 million as filler.

Smart, Tatum, sac pick, Mem pick imo will be the trade.

For sure Danny will try to keep one of Smart/ Brown out if the deal.

Don't think you can sign and trade a player with other players anymore. Some CBA expert should either confirm or deny this claim.


False. However, the S&Ted guys count for only half their new salary or 100% of their old one, whichever is more.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1497 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:02 pm

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Jaqua92 wrote:Mike Gorman?

Lol but in all seriousness, we likely keep one of those guys. If not, well, generational mvp level talent. Smart, Tatum, and Brown are not that.

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It's going to be near impossible to keep any of those three unless you include Horford or Hayward which I think is very unlikely.


Merely a question here, but can we use a player as a salary ballast like Keith Bogans was used?

Sign our player to X contract number and trade them within the package?


Not if the guy's been out of the league for a year. (I.e., the Keith van Horn trick is now banned.) If he's a current player, however, then my previous post applies -- you can include the guy, but if he's getting a raise then he won't count at full salary.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1498 » by Fencer reregistered » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:05 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Everyone in this topic should realize that if the Celtics trade for AD and beat everyone else's offer that the most likely trade scenario would have the Celtics trading Tatum, Brown and Smart for AD. It's the most likely and the one where the money actually works.

The only other way would be to involve Horford or Hayward both which is very unlikely in my opinion.

Be careful what you wish for.


Naw, we’ll want to include Hayward to free up cap space to sign others. Lowe said on his podcast that he believed NO would want Hayward, too, as its a great buy low opportunity on a star with only 2 years left on his deal.

It’d be Hayward+Tatum+4 or so firsts. We then resign Morris.

We'll see. Have a hard time believing rebuilding New Orleans wants anything to do with $30 million Jiri Welsch 2.0


As I noted above, he's marketable, for all of potential, personality & apparent character, and looks. Yabu might also be marketable in New Orleans, as a gregarious French speaker.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1499 » by ViperGTS » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:10 pm

Read on Twitter


Someone isn’t saying the truth. Couple that with Kyrie being “out” with an injury so he doesn’t have to talk to the media. Too much smoke for my liking.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1500 » by WeLikeOurGuys » Tue Jan 29, 2019 10:10 pm

So Kyrie has serious interest playing with lebron again? He can **** off then.

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