WWE SmackDown Discussion II

[iMoreland]

Randy Orton = still a mega star

[Spens1]

Randy Orton = still a mega star

When he actually can be bothered (which is roughly once a year).

[Spens1]

Anyway, can the McMahon's go away, please, let us go back to the days of Jack Tunney if we have to, just enough with the Mcmahon's being all over the product or at least a GM like Teddy Long who only comes out when things go to hell (best GM WWE has had in the last 20 years)

Also of course they'd ruin Almas vs Mysterio with a no contest, i mean in one way, i don't mind because it should be at wrestlemania with a stip, but if this was the plan, they should have just not done it at all and had a tag team match.

[Spens1]

Whatever happened to red blooded males liking good looking women in lingerie? Why is this considered a bad thing?
When did everybody become so soft?

We have access to more free porn than we could ever view in a thousand lifetimes. We don't need wrestling to get off anymore.

Personally, I'm fine with WWE having sexually suggestive content, but I need it to make sense and serve a purpose. Game of Thrones has a ton of gratuitous sex scenes, but they at least use them to dump exposition, world build, and push the narrative forward. The Rose segment was dumb, and the Bliss one was completely pointless.

This, i think if it was used as an actual tactic in feuds where the wrestlers know they can't win so they'll use other tactics to go over, or if they're managers they'll entice the men in some ways.

Like you can have the legit wrestlers (i.e. Ronda, Becky, Charlotte, Sasha, Bayley, Baszler, Moon, Asuka etc) getting the long matches and Natalya, Naomi, Riott Squad filling out the division, then if you have Bliss, Mandy, Carmella (i.e. those who are more sports entertainers) doing some divaish spots from time to time, then that's not bad either, as long as its done with nuance and serves a purpose to further an angle.

[tugs]

Exactly. Like the Debra's, the Torrie's, and Candice's of the world. But I don't think we have those anymore. Last would be Eva Marie. Potential fillers for that role are the Victoria's, Eve's who can at least wrestle, but look awkward when doing something sexual. Mandy, Alexa, and Lana are the only ones and they are in that tier.

Also, I didn't mind the Vince cameo. He wasn't needed there for the story to proceed, but it does tell you something when the boss gets insults from wrestlers who aren't his cup of tea. Tells me he's at least trying.

[iMoreland]

Spoiler:

WON: The current plan is to make Almas and Rey a face tag team and have them win the tag titles at WrestleMania.

I kinda like it, lots of fun matchups to be had there. Plus it'll make the Almas betrayal even better once they've had success together.

If they really wanna make money with this fued, they'd have Almas start wearing a mask, and when they eventually split do the hair/mask vs mask match.

[jakecronus8]

Randy Orton = still a mega star

I've been always been bored to tears with anything he's done. As bland as it gets.

[Spens1]

Spoiler:

WON: The current plan is to make Almas and Rey a face tag team and have them win the tag titles at WrestleMania.

I kinda like it, lots of fun matchups to be had there. Plus it'll make the Almas betrayal even better once they've had success together.

If they really wanna make money with this fued, they'd have Almas start wearing a mask, and when they eventually split do the hair/mask vs mask match.

Spoiler:

I'm sorry that is such a poor angle. Why must these mega feuds end in tag teams, sure the BAR turned out good but it was such a terrible excuse for a feud end, same with the Sasha-Bayley feud. Its just pathetic writing and its irritating.

Also Almas shouldn't wear a mask again, he lost his mask already (and there are rules about this, it ain't WCW where you can put on a mask when you feel like it).

WWE always insists on going against the grain and tries to get too cute, just do the damn feud normally.

Not to mention, Almas is an absolutely dreadful face, we saw what happened in NXT, hell even before NXT in CMLL he was an awful face and his career only picked up when he went heel. Some people just aren't meant to be babyfaces.

Not to mention if Almas is a flight risk, this sure as hell won't get him to stay.

[Spens1]

Randy Orton = still a mega star

I've been always been bored to tears with anything he's done. As bland as it gets.

That time when he just left Evolution, 07 Legend Killer (him vs RVD and him vs Micheals) and 09 McMahon killer runs (especially when he punted McMahon in the head, hard) where really good (though his 09 run probably was his last really good stretch i'd say).

[Spens1]

Just to prove that Vince truly has lost his mind, according to the Meltz, he banned 'Wichita' hence why Becky said town (didn't even notice in truth). Out of all the things to micro manage on apparently Wichita wasn't 'metropolitan' enough for him hence this change.

[improper]

Just to prove that Vince truly has lost his mind, according to the Meltz, he banned 'Wichita' hence why Becky said town (didn't even notice in truth). Out of all the things to micro manage on apparently Wichita wasn't 'metropolitan' enough for him hence this change.

This has been a thing for years with WWE. If Vince doesn't think the city they're performing in is worth mentioning, he'll make sure it's glossed over on the live broadcast. This has often been the case for Smackdown shows, especially before the brand split when it was the clear B show and just a crappier rehash of Raw storylines, as Smackdown tends to tour in smaller cities than Raw.

I find it more silly than anything. Like, god forbid the mighty WWE should have to perform a televised show in Wichita.

[Scott Hall]

Just to prove that Vince truly has lost his mind, according to the Meltz, he banned 'Wichita' hence why Becky said town (didn't even notice in truth). Out of all the things to micro manage on apparently Wichita wasn't 'metropolitan' enough for him hence this change.

This has been a thing for years with WWE. If Vince doesn't think the city they're performing in is worth mentioning, he'll make sure it's glossed over on the live broadcast. This has often been the case for Smackdown shows, especially before the brand split when it was the clear B show and just a crappier rehash of Raw storylines, as Smackdown tends to tour in smaller cities than Raw.

I find it more silly than anything. Like, god forbid the mighty WWE should have to perform a televised show in Wichita.

Yeah Vince is the king of silliness... I remember in the mid 2000's he thought that American fans won't cheer for
Canadian babyfaces all of a sudden (not like Bret Hart wasn't one of their most over wrestlers in the 90's)

So all of a sudden instead of Chris Jericho being from Winnipeg he was now introduced from "Manhasset New York"
because he was born there when his dad was playing for the New York Rangers.

Chris Benoit went from being from Edmonton to Atlanta Georgia because he relocated there when he was in WCW...

And I think they may have changed Edge and Christian from being from Toronto to Tampa Florida. I can't remember
if they did it for Trish or Gail Kim and some of the others but it was beyond absurd and made zero sense. I can't
remember how long it lasted maybe a year or 2 until they changed it back.

[improper]

Yeah Vince is the king of silliness... I remember in the mid 2000's he thought that American fans won't cheer for
Canadian babyfaces all of a sudden (not like Bret Hart wasn't one of their most over wrestlers in the 90's)

So all of a sudden instead of Chris Jericho being from Winnipeg he was now introduced from "Manhasset New York"
because he was born there when his dad was playing for the New York Rangers.

Chris Benoit went from being from Edmonton to Atlanta Georgia because he relocated there when he was in WCW...

And I think they may have changed Edge and Christian from being from Toronto to Tampa Florida. I can't remember
if they did it for Trish or Gail Kim and some of the others but it was beyond absurd and made zero sense. I can't
remember how long it lasted maybe a year or 2 until they changed it back.

Yeah, Vince may be a billionaire, but deep down he'll always have that xenophobic carny mentality. US good. Everyone else bad. It's why every heel who wasn't born in the US will, at some point, probably have an anti-American gimmick in WWE. Hell, I remember a time a year or so ago when Smackdown had three of them at the same damn time!

It's one of those things that probably worked really well back in the day when the Cold War was raging and the world was a lot bigger than it is now. Today it just feels lame and lazy.

[tugs]

Obvious fan favorites turned heel again, damn.

Elias and now Rusev. Why can't they capitalize people wanting to walk with Elias and celebrate Rusev Day?!

[iMoreland]

R Truth as US champion, whelp, can't be worse than Nakamura's reign

[tugs]

I agree. Well deserved reward for Truth imo. How this proceeds, I have no idea.

Nakamura and Rusev teaming up hopefully isn't a rehash of The Bar.

[heatwillbeback]

God Bryan is so good.

[jakecronus8]

I think people that buy replica belts are f*cking dorks, but dear God, that new Bryan belt is so f*cking amazing I'd consider it.

[iMoreland]

Lmao, I love vegan Daniel Bryan, that new title isn't that bad either.

But WHERE'S LUKE HARPER?

[iMoreland]

Samoa Joe is the best promo in wrestling