Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO

[The Corey's]

Is this bait? Please tell me you don't actually believe this.

Irving, Davis, Horford, Hayward and bbayns and 0 bench depth isnt beating the warriors. Never gonna happen

Dude we're literally getting rid of one bench player in that deal.

Dude, that's HIS trade but some of us here are saying itll cost us smart too for salarly purposes.

Also are you forgetting this isnt happening for us before july? Which means you can subtract rozier and Morris from the equation as there gone come july 4th

[Scarletfire81]

If AD isn’t traded by the deadline this thread is going to go for like six months. Jesus that’s a long time.

[The Corey's]

Is this bait? Please tell me you don't actually believe this.

Irving, Davis, Horford, Hayward and bbayns and 0 bench depth isnt beating the warriors. Never gonna happen

You don’t even know who’s gonna be on the warriors next year. Klay and Durant could both be gone. Then it’s just Curry and Green

This is true. and if it's true then I think our team as is is good enough to win the title. So why gut it?

[K For Three]

From October.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24965429/anthony-davis-says-best-player-league

Davis: Honestly, I see myself as the best player in the league, most dominant player in the league. I think it's time for that step. You only get a short window. And, I don't want that window to close, so I think my time is now.

Nichols: So give me the sell. Why should I put you up ahead of guys like LeBron [James], Kevin Durant?

Davis: It's -- don't get me wrong -- those two are great, great players, but I think I bring something unique to the table. My game is different from both of those guys. Both ends on the floor. I was MVP candidate and Defensive Player of the Year candidate, and so that's why I feel like my name should be at the top of that list.

And he wants to play with Lebron........because????? I don't completely buy it.

[Homerclease]

Irving, Davis, Horford, Hayward and bbayns and 0 bench depth isnt beating the warriors. Never gonna happen

You don’t even know who’s gonna be on the warriors next year. Klay and Durant could both be gone. Then it’s just Curry and Green

This is true. and if it's true then I think our team as is is good enough to win the title. So why gut it?

Because you aren’t gutting it. Make this trade and watch the veteran ring chasers flock here for a chance at a ring. You can build the depth back up here in no time

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

For those that haven't seen it yet- here is Jackie, as well as the rest of the panel on Around the Horn, calling bs on the report of Kyrie leaving. Start at around the 9:00 mark I believe.

Watch on YouTube

[The Corey's]

There are risks in every move you make. Nobody wants the worst case scenario to happen and of course the scenario you paint would be a nightmare.

Let’s suppose then that they don’t make the deal and maintain the status quo. Kyrie stays like he said he would and the Celtics never win the title. Are you satisfied playing it conservative?

Of course not. However I'd bealot happier having brown and Tatum under cost controlled contracts while we wait out the warriors dominance.

Both scenarios we laid out leaves us with no championships but my scenario doesnt leave us without a team. So I'll take that.

Id argue trading for Davis gives you a better shot at winning a title than not trading for him. I don’t think I’m in the minority in that opinion

And I'd argue that it can be done without giving up Tatum. We literslly gave up nothing of matter for Irving. Why would it take literally every asset we have for Davis? Especially considering his threat to bolt.

[Homerclease]

Of course not. However I'd bealot happier having brown and Tatum under cost controlled contracts while we wait out the warriors dominance.

Both scenarios we laid out leaves us with no championships but my scenario doesnt leave us without a team. So I'll take that.

Id argue trading for Davis gives you a better shot at winning a title than not trading for him. I don’t think I’m in the minority in that opinion

And I'd argue that it can be done without giving up Tatum. We literslly gave up nothing of matter for Irving. Why would it take literally every asset we have for Davis? Especially considering his threat to bolt.

Because Davis is on a higher level in terms of talent and that’s taking nothing away from Kyrie. We’re in the end game now.

Also, many thought we overpaid for Kyrie when we made the deal too.

[K For Three]

Of course not. However I'd bealot happier having brown and Tatum under cost controlled contracts while we wait out the warriors dominance.

Both scenarios we laid out leaves us with no championships but my scenario doesnt leave us without a team. So I'll take that.

Id argue trading for Davis gives you a better shot at winning a title than not trading for him. I don’t think I’m in the minority in that opinion

And I'd argue that it can be done without giving up Tatum. We literslly gave up nothing of matter for Irving. Why would it take literally every asset we have for Davis? Especially considering his threat to bolt.

That was rare though. IT, Crowder and Sexton for the best PG in the east lmao.

But AD is "that guy". Believe us here, you all will see later when/if it happens......

[Edug27]

Yeah thats insane and not worth it. Almost like the Hershal Walker trade. Who won that one? Yeah I know its football and all...but still this offer is insane and it even close in value. Then again, there was a section that would have traded what is Brown and Tatum for Butler or PG13 so it comes with the territory. They are so wide eyed they have no sense of reality.

Lol. If we had AD and someone offered you Tatum, Brown and late lottery picks for him.. you’d tell him to kick rocks.

Thats not the point. The point is the celtics can still top the lakers offer without even throwing in Tatum.

Either you believe that or not. I personally think it gets the deal done.

That’s not true and would never happen. Take the green goggles off. Zero chance a deal happens without Tatum, and I personally believe it’ll take Tatum AND Brown.

[The Corey's]

Is this bait? Please tell me you don't actually believe this.

What is wrong with that? Kyrie, AD and Horford isn’t good enough. We have no idea about Hayward. Horfie is getting older and will need a contract. This isn’t the slam dunk deal everyone thinks it is. Plus big men and injuries are always a consideration.

Believing that replacing two players in the 40-60 range with a top-5 player won't make us exponentially better is the problem

Those two players have already done something Davis Hasnt even come close to doing. winning in the playoffs.

Of course your rebuttal would likely be that Davis can do that in the east with our team. But his mega stats hasnt done the pelicans any good and the west has been a mess a good portion of this year.

[ViperGTS]

Id argue trading for Davis gives you a better shot at winning a title than not trading for him. I don’t think I’m in the minority in that opinion

And I'd argue that it can be done without giving up Tatum. We literslly gave up nothing of matter for Irving. Why would it take literally every asset we have for Davis? Especially considering his threat to bolt.

Because Davis is on a higher level in terms of talent and that’s taking nothing away from Kyrie. We’re in the end game now.

Also, many thought we overpaid for Kyrie when we made the deal too.

The Kyrie deal was a very good deal. NO is in the same situation as Cleveland was. Kyrie was/is a superstar. Thus the package should be relatively the same no matter who trades for him. The Lakers should give up one of Ingram or Ball (no on Kuzma) plus filler. Ditto for the Cs.

[The Corey's]

You don’t even know who’s gonna be on the warriors next year. Klay and Durant could both be gone. Then it’s just Curry and Green

This is true. and if it's true then I think our team as is is good enough to win the title. So why gut it?

Because you aren’t gutting it. Make this trade and watch the veteran ring chasers flock here for a chance at a ring. You can build the depth back up here in no time

No. I get it. I get it perfectly fine. The celtics gonna convince the Scott Polards and PK browns of the world to help us win a championship against the **** warriors.

My bad, I didnt know we can pretend about certain things happening (warriors falling apart) and not pretend like the celtics as constituted are already in prime condition to be that next team that matters. Without risking losing everyone for one guy who says right now he has no interest in your franchise with the very scenario you just laid out.

[thelarrybirdx]

What is wrong with that? Kyrie, AD and Horford isn’t good enough. We have no idea about Hayward. Horfie is getting older and will need a contract. This isn’t the slam dunk deal everyone thinks it is. Plus big men and injuries are always a consideration.

Believing that replacing two players in the 40-60 range with a top-5 player won't make us exponentially better is the problem

Those two players have already done something Davis Hasnt even come close to doing. winning in the playoffs.

Of course your rebuttal would likely be that Davis can do that in the east with our team. But his mega stats hasnt done the pelicans any good and the west has been a mess a good portion of this year.

Yep

[The Corey's]

Lol. If we had AD and someone offered you Tatum, Brown and late lottery picks for him.. you’d tell him to kick rocks.

Thats not the point. The point is the celtics can still top the lakers offer without even throwing in Tatum.

Either you believe that or not. I personally think it gets the deal done.

That’s not true and would never happen. Take the green goggles off. Zero chance a deal happens without Tatum, and I personally believe it’ll take Tatum AND Brown.

If the pelicans were to take the deal you proposed for the lakers over the deal I proposed for the celtics then there the ones qith green font and should not be trusted to make executive decisions.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Yah, Ill trade Tatum, Brown and 4 future firsts for AD without thinking twice. Im hopeful we wouldnt have to trade Brown with Tatum, but if we did, so be it.

Heres our scenario’s, as I see it:

We dont trade for AD:

Kyrie leaves because hes not waiting around for an uncertain trade asset to eventually become available. Ainge initiates another rebuild.

AD stays for a year then leaves:

Ainge initiates a rebuild, trading a resigned Kyrie for assets

AD stays long term:

We have the best 1-2 punch in the East and a good chance of being the next super team for the next 5 years.

Im taking the shot on AD every time, to be honest.

[Homerclease]

This is true. and if it's true then I think our team as is is good enough to win the title. So why gut it?

Because you aren’t gutting it. Make this trade and watch the veteran ring chasers flock here for a chance at a ring. You can build the depth back up here in no time

No. I get it. I get it perfectly fine. The celtics gonna convince the Scott Polards and PK browns of the world to help us win a championship against the **** warriors.

My bad, I didnt know we can pretend about certain things happening (warriors falling apart) and not pretend like the celtics as constituted are already in prime condition to be that next team that matters. Without risking losing everyone for one guy who says right now he has no interest in your franchise with the very scenario you just laid out.

Or the Zaza’s and David West’s of next year that joined the Warriors chasing rings.

This entire conversation is hypothetical, we’re only allowed to discuss your scenario? Hell, last years Watriors almost got beat by Harden and Paul and if it wasn’t for an injury to Paul they might’ve got beat. I’d argue that Davis and Irving is a better duo than the Rockets star duo that took the Warriors to 7 games

[K For Three]

Warriors won't last forever guys. They are going to get older and half of them need to get paid this offseason too.
I mean we always play them tough......add in AD we beat them. That 4 pt loss the other night will be a 10 point win. This year though the Dubs are a load and then some sadly.

[The Corey's]

Yah, Ill trade Tatum, Brown and 4 future firsts for AD without thinking twice. Im hopeful we wouldnt have to trade Brown with Tatum, but if we did, so be it.

Heres our scenario’s, as I see it:

We dont trade for AD:

Kyrie leaves because hes not waiting around for an uncertain trade asset to eventually become available. Ainge initiates another rebuild.

AD stays for a year then leaves:

Ainge initiates a rebuild, trading a resigned Kyrie for assets

AD stays long term:

We have the best 1-2 punch in the East and a good chance of being the next super team for the next 5 years.

Im taking the shot on AD every time, to be honest.

And when he bolts will you demand the heads of everyone involved? There has to be consequences to such gross mismanagement. You cant just say, hey it was a gamble!

[djFan71]

Believing that replacing two players in the 40-60 range with a top-5 player won't make us exponentially better is the problem

Those two players have already done something Davis Hasnt even come close to doing. winning in the playoffs.

Of course your rebuttal would likely be that Davis can do that in the east with our team. But his mega stats hasnt done the pelicans any good and the west has been a mess a good portion of this year.

Yep

Also, talk to Portland. AD destroyed them last year, then fell to Golden State 4-1. Who swept the team our guys didn't beat.