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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1721 » by thelarrybirdx » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:39 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, Ill trade Tatum, Brown and 4 future firsts for AD without thinking twice. Im hopeful we wouldnt have to trade Brown with Tatum, but if we did, so be it.

Heres our scenario’s, as I see it:

We dont trade for AD:

Kyrie leaves because hes not waiting around for an uncertain trade asset to eventually become available. Ainge initiates another rebuild.


AD stays for a year then leaves:

Ainge initiates a rebuild, trading a resigned Kyrie for assets

AD stays long term:

We have the best 1-2 punch in the East and a good chance of being the next super team for the next 5 years.

Im taking the shot on AD every time, to be honest.


Glad to see my solution to this scenario is picking up steam here. It truly would be the correct thing to do.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1722 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:39 am

The Corey's wrote:
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What is wrong with that? Kyrie, AD and Horford isn’t good enough. We have no idea about Hayward. Horfie is getting older and will need a contract. This isn’t the slam dunk deal everyone thinks it is. Plus big men and injuries are always a consideration.


Believing that replacing two players in the 40-60 range with a top-5 player won't make us exponentially better is the problem


Those two players have already done something Davis Hasnt even come close to doing. winning in the playoffs.

Of course your rebuttal would likely be that Davis can do that in the east with our team. But his mega stats hasnt done the pelicans any good and the west has been a mess a good portion of this year.


No my rebuttal is AD won a game vs the Warriors in the playoffs and swept a very good Blazers team.

If he were in the East, they wouldve played in the finals last year.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1723 » by The Corey's » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:41 am

Let me make it very clear before some clever people come.in here twisting words or agendas based on my past comments.

Davis is good. Hes great. Hes next in line for superstar talent for the game.

I would absolutely love to have him.

But I think it's a huge mistake to trade all those prospects and picks for him already known that A. Hes leaving. His words, not mine, B. It's not getting us over the hump.

If you want to live dangerously and believe ainge can convince him to stay then cool, hell it may even work.

But right now, gun to my head? Let the lakers over pay and have them lose to warriors every year while we get to the finals anyway.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1724 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:41 am

The Corey's wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, Ill trade Tatum, Brown and 4 future firsts for AD without thinking twice. Im hopeful we wouldnt have to trade Brown with Tatum, but if we did, so be it.

Heres our scenario’s, as I see it:

We dont trade for AD:

Kyrie leaves because hes not waiting around for an uncertain trade asset to eventually become available. Ainge initiates another rebuild.

AD stays for a year then leaves:

Ainge initiates a rebuild, trading a resigned Kyrie for assets

AD stays long term:

We have the best 1-2 punch in the East and a good chance of being the next super team for the next 5 years.

Im taking the shot on AD every time, to be honest.


And when he bolts will you demand the heads of everyone involved? There has to be consequences to such gross mismanagement. You cant just say, hey it was a gamble!


Not at all. Ainge took a shot on a generational talent, something I support fully.

If we sit on our hands and Kyrie bolts, will you be happy?
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1725 » by StojkoVrankovic » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:42 am

The Corey's wrote:Let me make it very clear before some clever people come.in here twisting words or agendas based on my past comments.

Davis is good. Hes great. Hes next in line for superstar talent for the game.

I would absolutely love to have him.

But I think it's a huge mistake to trade all those prospects and picks for him already known that A. Hes leaving. His words, not mine, B. It's not getting us over the hump.

If you want to live dangerously and believe ainge can convince him to stay then cool, hell it may even work.

But right now, gun to my head? Let the lakers over pay and have them lose to warriors every year while we get to the finals anyway.

Please show me his words saying he is leaving
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1726 » by Edug27 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:42 am

The Corey's wrote:
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Thats not the point. The point is the celtics can still top the lakers offer without even throwing in Tatum.

Either you believe that or not. I personally think it gets the deal done.


That’s not true and would never happen. Take the green goggles off. Zero chance a deal happens without Tatum, and I personally believe it’ll take Tatum AND Brown.



If the pelicans were to take the deal you proposed for the lakers over the deal I proposed for the celtics then there the ones qith green font and should not be trusted to make executive decisions.


Those picks would have to end up really high for the deal to make sense.. because Ingram, Ball, Kuz is sooo much better than Jaylen and Smart. If you think otherwise, then I don’t know what to tell you bro.
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Post#1727 » by The Corey's » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:42 am

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Those two players have already done something Davis Hasnt even come close to doing. winning in the playoffs.

Of course your rebuttal would likely be that Davis can do that in the east with our team. But his mega stats hasnt done the pelicans any good and the west has been a mess a good portion of this year.


Yep

Also, talk to Portland. AD destroyed them last year, then fell to Golden State 4-1. Who swept the team our guys didn't beat.


True. I think one year he made it to western finals? Am I making that up?
But portland aucks. Hacks.
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Post#1728 » by fallguy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:43 am

thelarrybirdx wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, Ill trade Tatum, Brown and 4 future firsts for AD without thinking twice. Im hopeful we wouldnt have to trade Brown with Tatum, but if we did, so be it.

Heres our scenario’s, as I see it:

We dont trade for AD:

Kyrie leaves because hes not waiting around for an uncertain trade asset to eventually become available. Ainge initiates another rebuild.


AD stays for a year then leaves:

Ainge initiates a rebuild, trading a resigned Kyrie for assets

AD stays long term:

We have the best 1-2 punch in the East and a good chance of being the next super team for the next 5 years.

Im taking the shot on AD every time, to be honest.


Glad to see my solution to this scenario is picking up steam here. It truly would be the correct thing to do.


In the first scenario I don't think he rebuilds. I think there's a second target lined up for this summer, failing an AD acquisition. One that would ideally keep Kyrie happy and contending.

In the second, I think we'd see action by the deadline next year. But I think it would be a super quick reset, rather than rebuild.

I think the third is the most likely outcome.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1729 » by ViperGTS » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:43 am

thelarrybirdx wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, Ill trade Tatum, Brown and 4 future firsts for AD without thinking twice. Im hopeful we wouldnt have to trade Brown with Tatum, but if we did, so be it.

Heres our scenario’s, as I see it:

We dont trade for AD:

Kyrie leaves because hes not waiting around for an uncertain trade asset to eventually become available. Ainge initiates another rebuild.


AD stays for a year then leaves:

Ainge initiates a rebuild, trading a resigned Kyrie for assets

AD stays long term:

We have the best 1-2 punch in the East and a good chance of being the next super team for the next 5 years.

Im taking the shot on AD every time, to be honest.


Glad to see my solution to this scenario is picking up steam here. It truly would be the correct thing to do.


Thats 6, repeat 6 1sts to include 2 top 3 picks plus that Memphis pick that will be a very valuable chip. So that would be 3 lottery with the possible Memphis pick being top 5 or better. Thats sheer lunacy. Utter lunacy.
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Post#1730 » by Homerclease » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:43 am

The Corey's wrote:
djFan71 wrote:
thelarrybirdx wrote:
Yep

Also, talk to Portland. AD destroyed them last year, then fell to Golden State 4-1. Who swept the team our guys didn't beat.


True. I think one year he made it to western finals? Am I making that up?
But portland aucks. Hacks.

Portland was the 3 seed in the West last year
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1731 » by The Corey's » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:43 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
thelarrybirdx wrote:
Believing that replacing two players in the 40-60 range with a top-5 player won't make us exponentially better is the problem


Those two players have already done something Davis Hasnt even come close to doing. winning in the playoffs.

Of course your rebuttal would likely be that Davis can do that in the east with our team. But his mega stats hasnt done the pelicans any good and the west has been a mess a good portion of this year.


No my rebuttal is AD won a game vs the Warriors in the playoffs and swept a very good Blazers team.

If he were in the East, they wouldve played in the finals last year.


Only if he played for the Cavs or celtics.
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Post#1732 » by K For Three » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:44 am

I always thought this was the most telling picture of the season, when the Pelicans came to Boston. Wanamaker has this look like "I know exactly what is going on."

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Post#1733 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:44 am

StojkoVrankovic wrote:
The Corey's wrote:Let me make it very clear before some clever people come.in here twisting words or agendas based on my past comments.

Davis is good. Hes great. Hes next in line for superstar talent for the game.

I would absolutely love to have him.

But I think it's a huge mistake to trade all those prospects and picks for him already known that A. Hes leaving. His words, not mine, B. It's not getting us over the hump.

If you want to live dangerously and believe ainge can convince him to stay then cool, hell it may even work.

But right now, gun to my head? Let the lakers over pay and have them lose to warriors every year while we get to the finals anyway.

Please show me his words saying he is leaving


And let me know where he’s going, too. The Lakers arent going to punt a second LeBron season with roll-over cap space and AD isnt leaving a title contender to play with a 36 year old LeBron.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1734 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:45 am

The Corey's wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
Those two players have already done something Davis Hasnt even come close to doing. winning in the playoffs.

Of course your rebuttal would likely be that Davis can do that in the east with our team. But his mega stats hasnt done the pelicans any good and the west has been a mess a good portion of this year.


No my rebuttal is AD won a game vs the Warriors in the playoffs and swept a very good Blazers team.

If he were in the East, they wouldve played in the finals last year.


Only if he played for the Cavs or celtics.


No, his Pelicans wouldve made the finals had they been in the East.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1735 » by The Corey's » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:46 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, Ill trade Tatum, Brown and 4 future firsts for AD without thinking twice. Im hopeful we wouldnt have to trade Brown with Tatum, but if we did, so be it.

Heres our scenario’s, as I see it:

We dont trade for AD:

Kyrie leaves because hes not waiting around for an uncertain trade asset to eventually become available. Ainge initiates another rebuild.

AD stays for a year then leaves:

Ainge initiates a rebuild, trading a resigned Kyrie for assets

AD stays long term:

We have the best 1-2 punch in the East and a good chance of being the next super team for the next 5 years.

Im taking the shot on AD every time, to be honest.


And when he bolts will you demand the heads of everyone involved? There has to be consequences to such gross mismanagement. You cant just say, hey it was a gamble!


Not at all. Ainge took a shot on a generational talent, something I support fully.

If we sit on our hands and Kyrie bolts, will you be happy?


If Irving bolts then I dont want anything to do with him anyway. I doubt the Davi situation has anything to do with his decision anyway
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1736 » by thelarrybirdx » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:46 am

ViperGTS wrote:
thelarrybirdx wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, Ill trade Tatum, Brown and 4 future firsts for AD without thinking twice. Im hopeful we wouldnt have to trade Brown with Tatum, but if we did, so be it.

Heres our scenario’s, as I see it:

We dont trade for AD:

Kyrie leaves because hes not waiting around for an uncertain trade asset to eventually become available. Ainge initiates another rebuild.


AD stays for a year then leaves:

Ainge initiates a rebuild, trading a resigned Kyrie for assets

AD stays long term:

We have the best 1-2 punch in the East and a good chance of being the next super team for the next 5 years.

Im taking the shot on AD every time, to be honest.


Glad to see my solution to this scenario is picking up steam here. It truly would be the correct thing to do.


Thats 6, repeat 6 1sts to include 2 top 3 picks plus that Memphis pick that will be a very valuable chip. So that would be 3 lottery with the possible Memphis pick being top 5 or better. Thats sheer lunacy. Utter lunacy.


Only question would be - would Brad sit through another rebuild? I mean, the first "rebuild" he was only out of the playoffs for one year. The next one around I'd have to think we tank for at least a couple years.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1737 » by SmartWentCrazy » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:46 am

fallguy wrote:
thelarrybirdx wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:Yah, Ill trade Tatum, Brown and 4 future firsts for AD without thinking twice. Im hopeful we wouldnt have to trade Brown with Tatum, but if we did, so be it.

Heres our scenario’s, as I see it:

We dont trade for AD:

Kyrie leaves because hes not waiting around for an uncertain trade asset to eventually become available. Ainge initiates another rebuild.


AD stays for a year then leaves:

Ainge initiates a rebuild, trading a resigned Kyrie for assets

AD stays long term:

We have the best 1-2 punch in the East and a good chance of being the next super team for the next 5 years.

Im taking the shot on AD every time, to be honest.


Glad to see my solution to this scenario is picking up steam here. It truly would be the correct thing to do.


In the first scenario I don't think he rebuilds. I think there's a second target lined up for this summer, failing an AD acquisition. One that would ideally keep Kyrie happy and contending.

In the second, I think we'd see action by the deadline next year. But I think it would be a super quick reset, rather than rebuild.

I think the third is the most likely outcome.


I hope youre right on the first one. I know Ainge still fancies KD but im not ovey optimistic that we can steal him.
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Post#1738 » by djFan71 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:46 am

Homerclease wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Also, talk to Portland. AD destroyed them last year, then fell to Golden State 4-1. Who swept the team our guys didn't beat.


True. I think one year he made it to western finals? Am I making that up?
But portland aucks. Hacks.

Portland was the 3 seed in the West last year

Yeah, but with an obvious drop off from the top 2. Plus the Hacks thing made me laugh.
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Post#1739 » by The Corey's » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:47 am

Homerclease wrote:
The Corey's wrote:
djFan71 wrote:Also, talk to Portland. AD destroyed them last year, then fell to Golden State 4-1. Who swept the team our guys didn't beat.


True. I think one year he made it to western finals? Am I making that up?
But portland aucks. Hacks.

Portland was the 3 seed in the West last year


I'm not convinced of their talent. Someone had to be the 3rd seed.
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Re: Anthony Davis Requests Trade from NO 

Post#1740 » by Edug27 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:47 am

Kyrie For Three wrote:I always thought this was the most telling picture of the season, when the Pelicans came to Boston. Wanamaker this look like "I know exactly what is going on."

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Kyrie is saying “listen.. I’m telling you, just have your agent demand a trade. It’s the only way to go. These young dudes are driving me insane”

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