Trade Thread: Armchair GMs welcomed

[gobullschi]

Would you trade Cristiano Felicio (-), Lauri Markkanen (+), Kris Dunn (+), & 2020 1st Round Pick (Lottery protected) (+) for Jrue Holiday (++)?

I would consider it if the Bulls got the #1 pick (Zion Williamson). Especially if Jabari Parker can continue to string up some game where he plays like he did tonight. 22 Points and 9 Rebounds! Experiment with Zion at the 3. If it doesn't work out then Parker's contract expires and the Bulls will have enough cap space to make a pitch at a big free agent and Zion can move to the 4. Hopefully Zion is good enough to help make that pitch a little easier.

PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Zach LaVine
SF: Zion Williamson | Chandler Hutchison
PF: Jabari Parker | Bobby Portis
C: Wendell Carter Jr.

No way. Lauri & a future 1st for Holiday? Too much given his age an contract. I would definitely do Parker, Dunn, Hutch and a lotto protected 2020 1st though.

Jrue Holiday is in his prime putting up 21 PPG, 8 APG, and 5 RPG with great defense.

You aren't going to get a player like that by trading your scraps and a protected 1st.

It is tough to move a guy like Markkanen but thats probably the cost to get a top PG. It might be too early in the rebuild to make a move like this though.



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[sco]

Would you trade Cristiano Felicio (-), Lauri Markkanen (+), Kris Dunn (+), & 2020 1st Round Pick (Lottery protected) (+) for Jrue Holiday (++)?

I would consider it if the Bulls got the #1 pick (Zion Williamson). Especially if Jabari Parker can continue to string up some game where he plays like he did tonight. 22 Points and 9 Rebounds! Experiment with Zion at the 3. If it doesn't work out then Parker's contract expires and the Bulls will have enough cap space to make a pitch at a big free agent and Zion can move to the 4. Hopefully Zion is good enough to help make that pitch a little easier.

PG: Jrue Holiday
SG: Zach LaVine
SF: Zion Williamson | Chandler Hutchison
PF: Jabari Parker | Bobby Portis
C: Wendell Carter Jr.

No way. Lauri & a future 1st for Holiday? Too much given his age an contract. I would definitely do Parker, Dunn, Hutch and a lotto protected 2020 1st though.

Jrue Holiday is in his prime putting up 21 PPG, 8 APG, and 5 RPG with great defense.

You aren't going to get a player like that by trading your scraps and a protected 1st.

It is tough to move a guy like Markkanen but thats probably the cost to get a top PG. It might be too early in the rebuild to make a move like this though.



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Holiday is a good PG, but he'll be 29 next season and will have 2 more high priced seasons left on his deal. He's been injury prone too. Point is. Who else has the cap room, need and assets better than I was proposing?

[gobullschi]

No way. Lauri & a future 1st for Holiday? Too much given his age an contract. I would definitely do Parker, Dunn, Hutch and a lotto protected 2020 1st though.

Jrue Holiday is in his prime putting up 21 PPG, 8 APG, and 5 RPG with great defense.

You aren't going to get a player like that by trading your scraps and a protected 1st.

It is tough to move a guy like Markkanen but thats probably the cost to get a top PG. It might be too early in the rebuild to make a move like this though.



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Holiday is a good PG, but he'll be 29 next season and will have 2 more high priced seasons left on his deal. He's been injury prone too. Point is. Who else has the cap room, need and assets better than I was proposing?

He would be 29, 30, & 31 for the three seasons he would be with the Bulls... Is that considered to be too old? Players want to sign to teams that have the best chance to win. I think if Chicago wants to be at the table in free agency, Jrue Holiday + Zion Williamson needs to make the Bulls a top 5 team in the East.

In my OP I said Jabari Parker would need to keep playing like he has of late. I have always thought the Bulls had way too tight of a leash on Jabari. He is only 23 years and has lost 2 seasons of development.

I had no idea he was so injury prone though. I mean... if New Orleans would be willing to take your offer I would be thrilled, but I was trying to not be bias. I wonder if 2 2nd Round Picks would be enough incentive for them to take on Felicio's contract too.

[Davell]

The Bulls are going to win in the vicinity of 15 games this year. Talking about trading for borderline All Stars of even thinking that top end Free Agents are going to give this place a glance is severely misguided. This team needed to win 30+ for that to even be a possibility.

You've got an absolute meme of a coach. No one is going to play for that guy. Plus, you've got the fact players know how poor our ownership and Front Office is as well. They're very well aware of how players have been treated at different points.

The only thing this club can/should be doing is collecting assets.(And hiring a new coach/Front Office. Half the league has our projected cap space. We're not even in a great spot there, if you're looking at things realistically.

You've got WCJ, Lauri, and you might as well hold on to LaVine. Anything and everything else needs to be used on acquiring youngsters and draft picks. If it means taking on future salary-so be it. Because we've got no actual use for cap space next year. No one's coming. If you've got guys you can snag on one year deals-do it.

But this is going to take a while. Getting Zion is about the only thing that can actually accelerate things realistically. Because then, you've at least got your building block star. And we're not competing for guys until we've got that. And until we've cleaned house up top......

The fact Davis has zero interest playing in Chicago, his home town, should put this in true perspective. We've got a long, long way to go.

So strap in and acquire all the assets humanly possible and hope they hit at some point. Because until this team is at least showing 30+ win potential, we're flat out stuck and adding the Holidays of the world may get you to 35 wins, but it's costing you any shot at all of setting up a true contender too.

[StunnerKO]

I think Anthony Davis would love to play for the Bulls I think it’s everything else that comes with it via city . The handling of the hometown talent was always important and whats happened to Rose , Wade and now Jabari from the fans and team a Like is a turn off.

[YettiBull]

Dunn is trash.

[bulliedog8]

I doubt these teams would do this but how about going all in to be a partial contender next year, then full out contender starting 2020-21.

Before the Feb 7 Deadline:

Bulls get: Beal, Mahinmi
Wizards get: Lavine, Lopez, Portis, Dunn, 2021 bulls first (top 3 protected), and 2020 Bulls 2nd

Bulls get a star who is locked in long term. Wizards shed Mahinmis last year. Get young pieces with some potential (lavine, portis) and improve depth with Dunn backing up wall. Lopez expiring so it saves wizards money. Re-sign Portis on a good deal. Also get 2021 1st (20s most likely) and a 2nd


Then on draft day (This is with the assumption the bulls get the #1 pick):

Bulls get: Anthony Davis
Pelicans get: Wendell Carter, #1 (Zion), Jabari Parker (bulls pick up team option to be able to trade him), and Valentine.

Bulls get their second star and re-sign AD long term. Pelicans with a nice quick rebuild with a core of Zion and Wendell to build with. Could keep Holiday and still compete for playoffs right away while the young players get experience.


Big 3 Beal, Lauri, and Anthony Davis to build around. Could bring in 1 more near max guy in 2021 before offering Lauri his extension

[sco]

Parker/Dunn to Utah for Exum, Allen and Favors.

[TheJordanRule]

Parker/Dunn to Utah for Exum, Allen and Favors.

Co-signed. You and I might be the only two board members who know that Exum can play. #ChicagoBullsDanteExumFanClub

[PrimzyBulls81]

Parker/Dunn to Utah for Exum, Allen and Favors.

So we should trade underachieving PG for another underachieving PG? ok

[sco]

Parker/Dunn to Utah for Exum, Allen and Favors.

So we should trade underachieving PG for another underachieving PG? ok

It buys time, plus Allen may turn into something.

[gobullschi]

I mean just because...

Bulls trade Lauri Markkanen, Wendell Carter Jr., Kris Dunn, and 2020 1st for Anthony Davis.

Sign D-Rose

Derrick Rose
Zach LaVine
Zion Williamson
Jabari Parker
Anthony Davis

[WindyCityBorn]

Will people stop putting Zion at SF in mock lineups? That will not be his position in the NBA. Just because a guy can dribble and pass moderately well doesn't mean he can play on the wing. It just enhances his play as a PF.

[Davell]

Will people stop putting Zion at SF in mock lineups? That will not be his position in the NBA. Just because a guy can dribble and pass moderately well doesn't mean he can play on the wing. It just enhances his play as a PF.

While I basically agree, he'd be playing the 3 for the Bulls. At least part of the time and probably at the beginning of the game. Because I don't see them sitting any of Wendell, Lauri, or him. And he's much closer to being a capable 3 than those two are defensively.

[WindyCityBorn]

Will people stop putting Zion at SF in mock lineups? That will not be his position in the NBA. Just because a guy can dribble and pass moderately well doesn't mean he can play on the wing. It just enhances his play as a PF.

While I basically agree, he'd be playing the 3 for the Bulls. At least part of the time and probably at the beginning of the game. Because I don't see them sitting any of Wendell, Lauri, or him. And he's much closer to being a capable 3 than those two are defensively.

That lineup will never work. Someone is getting traded or benched.

[gobullschi]

Will people stop putting Zion at SF in mock lineups? That will not be his position in the NBA. Just because a guy can dribble and pass moderately well doesn't mean he can play on the wing. It just enhances his play as a PF.

Maybe you have pigeonholed him at power forward too soon. Personally, I think he will excel at both forward spots. Time will tell.

[Davell]

Will people stop putting Zion at SF in mock lineups? That will not be his position in the NBA. Just because a guy can dribble and pass moderately well doesn't mean he can play on the wing. It just enhances his play as a PF.

While I basically agree, he'd be playing the 3 for the Bulls. At least part of the time and probably at the beginning of the game. Because I don't see them sitting any of Wendell, Lauri, or him. And he's much closer to being a capable 3 than those two are defensively.

That lineup will never work. Someone is getting traded or benched.

Eh, I think you at least give those 3 a shot together in the front court, before absolutely deciding it can't work.

[WindyCityBorn]

While I basically agree, he'd be playing the 3 for the Bulls. At least part of the time and probably at the beginning of the game. Because I don't see them sitting any of Wendell, Lauri, or him. And he's much closer to being a capable 3 than those two are defensively.

That lineup will never work. Someone is getting traded or benched.

Eh, I think you at least give those 3 a shot together in the front court, before absolutely deciding it can't work.

Sure, but odds of a jumbo lineup being successful are very low.

[sco]

That lineup will never work. Someone is getting traded or benched.

Eh, I think you at least give those 3 a shot together in the front court, before absolutely deciding it can't work.

Sure, but odds of a jumbo lineup being successful are very low.

I think the right move might be to have Lauri play SF. Heck SF's usually cover him on offense and his game is much closer to a traditional SF. While not ideal, he has shown enough defensively where I think he won't get McDermotted by opponents. If WCJ can find 3pt range, it makes even more sense to try the big 3. We should be so lucky to land Zion and have to worry about this.

[Nikola]

I agree with those that would say Zion would start at 3 because of our current personnel.

It might end up not being ideal enough to keep him there long term. But he will sure as hell be better than Holiday, Hutch, Harrison, and Seldon Jr. Even if he is not ideally a 3 he won't suck.