Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2

[ViperGTS]

You keep saying they are "perfectly fine." What does that mean? Also, if they are as good as you say they are, then please tell me why they look like a bunch of lost chicks whenever LeBron isn't playing?

Plus, we don't even know if Lonzo is ever going to stay healthy. He has been in the league for two years and has spent most of his time in street clothes.

Because its not just them. My rank would be Kuzma, Ingram then Lonzo. Add in Zubac and maybe Hart as well.

Except it has A LOT to do with them.

Last year, Tatum, Brown, Smart and Rozier took us to Game 7 of the ECF. What have Kuzma, Ingram and Ball done that is even CLOSE to that?

Hart is a glue guy and nothing more. The Pelicans are not going to give a crap if he is thrown in the deal.

The Celtics' young talent is so superior to LA's that it's not even funny, and you KNOW this. You just don't want to lose Tatum and Brown so you are just trying to convince yourself that the Celtics are not the favorites to land AD even though they clearly are.

And for the record, I do NOT want to trade Tatum, but I am not blind to the facts.

And you know what else? If the Knicks offer Porzingis and their draft pick (which could be No. 1), their package is also better than LA's.

Sure. If the Cs want to rip their team apart and lose their long term future than they can be the favorites sure. For two years the Cs have been the team with the best blend of high end youthful talent with vet leadership. Talk of the league. Now everyone wants to kick that to the curb for a quick fix. And its not just Tatum and Brown. Its Smart. And or Williams. And or Horford.

People need to chill. What if this core explodes and makes a long run? Thats a very likely scenario as well.

[Curmudgeon]

This is more fun than the Jimmy Butler melodrama, the Markelle Fultz melodrama or the melo melodrama. I love the NBA.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Put Davis on our current roster with no other changes and he'd be our best defensive player, our best shot blocker, our best rebounder, and maybe even our best scorer.

The only anti-Davis argument I can imagine is that, with trends in the league what they are, a superstar Anthony Davis isn't going to have the impact that Shaq or Duncan or Garnett did - that you'd be better off trading for Bradley Beal and Drummond, at less cost, with a team closer to last year's Rockets in design - but younger and deeper.

[ViperGTS]

KG took Sprewell, Cassell, and Wally Sczerbiak to the Western Conference Finals.

Everyone is aware of that.

This board was decidedly against trading for KG, and him being a 1st round playoff victim was repeated over and over.

It was dumb then, and dumb now.

AD is a **** stud who is better than our best three players combined.

Were they really against it?

I got to be honest, I looked back at the old trade threads with Kyrie/IT when I was bored once this past summer. I spent a lot of time reading them.

You KILLED everyone. Also you kept saying the deal would go through when it looked bad for a week there.

And yes the pro Kyrie posters I took mental notes of.

No one that was traded for KG was in the realm of JB or Tatum specifically. Al was a good player but not that special. Plus that team kinda stunk and it needed a quick fix due to Pierce probably at his limit mentally. KG also was a nasty dude who was a legit generational beast. Now and then are two very different circumstances. Lost out on Durant so plan B was needed. Anyone against that trade was a fool.

This is a differnt time. If this team clicks and makes the Finals and pushes GS, why break it up? Maybe everyone should wait to see what this team can do before anything rash is done.

[Captain_Caveman]

KG took Sprewell, Cassell, and Wally Sczerbiak to the Western Conference Finals.

Everyone is aware of that.

This board was decidedly against trading for KG, and him being a 1st round playoff victim was repeated over and over.

It was dumb then, and dumb now.

AD is a **** stud who is better than our best three players combined.

Were they really against it?

I got to be honest, I looked back at the old trade threads with Kyrie/IT when I was bored once this past summer. I spent a lot of time reading them.

You KILLED everyone. Also you kept saying the deal would go through when it looked bad for a week there.

And yes the pro Kyrie posters I took mental notes of.

I was so taken aback that I literally created an account after years of lurking just to go in on the Jeffersonstans. That one went on for months, lol.

[31to6]

Read on Twitter

Haven't watched the video so I can't confirm this. Celtics Reddit

Edit: apparently found in here somewhere?

Watch on YouTube

All I know is that Paul and Michelle are 100% **** each other.

Paul is a family man.

**** THE LAKERS THO!

[Captain_Caveman]

Because its not just them. My rank would be Kuzma, Ingram then Lonzo. Add in Zubac and maybe Hart as well.

Except it has A LOT to do with them.

Last year, Tatum, Brown, Smart and Rozier took us to Game 7 of the ECF. What have Kuzma, Ingram and Ball done that is even CLOSE to that?

Hart is a glue guy and nothing more. The Pelicans are not going to give a crap if he is thrown in the deal.

The Celtics' young talent is so superior to LA's that it's not even funny, and you KNOW this. You just don't want to lose Tatum and Brown so you are just trying to convince yourself that the Celtics are not the favorites to land AD even though they clearly are.

And for the record, I do NOT want to trade Tatum, but I am not blind to the facts.

And you know what else? If the Knicks offer Porzingis and their draft pick (which could be No. 1), their package is also better than LA's.

Sure. If the Cs want to rip their team apart and lose their long term future than they can be the favorites sure. For two years the Cs have been the team with the best blend of high end youthful talent with vet leadership. Talk of the league. Now everyone wants to kick that to the curb for a quick fix. And its not just Tatum and Brown. Its Smart. And or Williams. And or Horford.

People need to chill. What if this core explodes and makes a long run? Thats a very likely scenario as well.

THERE IS NO LONG-TERM FUTURE WITHOUT AD

[thelarrybirdx]

Except it has A LOT to do with them.

Last year, Tatum, Brown, Smart and Rozier took us to Game 7 of the ECF. What have Kuzma, Ingram and Ball done that is even CLOSE to that?

Hart is a glue guy and nothing more. The Pelicans are not going to give a crap if he is thrown in the deal.

The Celtics' young talent is so superior to LA's that it's not even funny, and you KNOW this. You just don't want to lose Tatum and Brown so you are just trying to convince yourself that the Celtics are not the favorites to land AD even though they clearly are.

And for the record, I do NOT want to trade Tatum, but I am not blind to the facts.

And you know what else? If the Knicks offer Porzingis and their draft pick (which could be No. 1), their package is also better than LA's.

Sure. If the Cs want to rip their team apart and lose their long term future than they can be the favorites sure. For two years the Cs have been the team with the best blend of high end youthful talent with vet leadership. Talk of the league. Now everyone wants to kick that to the curb for a quick fix. And its not just Tatum and Brown. Its Smart. And or Williams. And or Horford.

People need to chill. What if this core explodes and makes a long run? Thats a very likely scenario as well.

THERE IS NO LONG-TERM FUTURE WITHOUT AD

Ding ding ding ding!

[Andrew McCeltic]

Because its not just them. My rank would be Kuzma, Ingram then Lonzo. Add in Zubac and maybe Hart as well.

Except it has A LOT to do with them.

Last year, Tatum, Brown, Smart and Rozier took us to Game 7 of the ECF. What have Kuzma, Ingram and Ball done that is even CLOSE to that?

Hart is a glue guy and nothing more. The Pelicans are not going to give a crap if he is thrown in the deal.

The Celtics' young talent is so superior to LA's that it's not even funny, and you KNOW this. You just don't want to lose Tatum and Brown so you are just trying to convince yourself that the Celtics are not the favorites to land AD even though they clearly are.

And for the record, I do NOT want to trade Tatum, but I am not blind to the facts.

And you know what else? If the Knicks offer Porzingis and their draft pick (which could be No. 1), their package is also better than LA's.

Sure. If the Cs want to rip their team apart and lose their long term future than they can be the favorites sure. For two years the Cs have been the team with the best blend of high end youthful talent with vet leadership. Talk of the league. Now everyone wants to kick that to the curb for a quick fix. And its not just Tatum and Brown. Its Smart. And or Williams. And or Horford.

People need to chill. What if this core explodes and makes a long run? Thats a very likely scenario as well.

Anthony Davis isn't a quick fix - he's a long-term fix. We also can't afford to pay everyone on the roster now - we can't even play everyone on the roster now - a 'consolidation trade' for the best player in the league makes... a lot of sense.

But no idea what the final price would be. There are deals that would be overpays and turn us into the CP3 Clippers - capped out, no future 1sts, no way to get better if it turned out Kyrie/Hayward/Davis wasn't enough to dominate the east.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Worst-case scenario would be that New Orleans is going to use us in order to get more from the Lakers in June, and we miss out on trade opportunities now and then, and have another draft where we have more picks than roster spots.

[ViperGTS]

Except it has A LOT to do with them.

Last year, Tatum, Brown, Smart and Rozier took us to Game 7 of the ECF. What have Kuzma, Ingram and Ball done that is even CLOSE to that?

Hart is a glue guy and nothing more. The Pelicans are not going to give a crap if he is thrown in the deal.

The Celtics' young talent is so superior to LA's that it's not even funny, and you KNOW this. You just don't want to lose Tatum and Brown so you are just trying to convince yourself that the Celtics are not the favorites to land AD even though they clearly are.

And for the record, I do NOT want to trade Tatum, but I am not blind to the facts.

And you know what else? If the Knicks offer Porzingis and their draft pick (which could be No. 1), their package is also better than LA's.

Sure. If the Cs want to rip their team apart and lose their long term future than they can be the favorites sure. For two years the Cs have been the team with the best blend of high end youthful talent with vet leadership. Talk of the league. Now everyone wants to kick that to the curb for a quick fix. And its not just Tatum and Brown. Its Smart. And or Williams. And or Horford.

People need to chill. What if this core explodes and makes a long run? Thats a very likely scenario as well.

THERE IS NO LONG-TERM FUTURE WITHOUT AD

No? Huh. Thats interesting. AD will be 26 by the time they get him and he is a big man with some injury issues already. Kyrie has had some knee issues himself. 30 is the magic number for both as far as past that its a crapshoot health wise. So thats roughly 4 years of certainty and who knows what else afterwards.

Also, if there is no future without AD, then that must mean both Jaylen and Tatum stink and will stink in the future right? And if they aren't good enough for the Cs future, why would New Orleans want them?

[SLCceltic]

The BEAT LA chant at the end of the game tonight was PERFECT

[Froob]

Got my +200 on AD to Boston in.

[Scarletfire81]

I just had an interesting thought, maybe it really was the celtics leaking Kyrie wanting to team up with Lebron. Pelicans realize trading AD creates a super team LA. They say no way they are helping create that, we'll just wait for Boston. Doubt that's the case but you never know.

[K For Three]

I just had an interesting thought, maybe it really was the celtics leaking Kyrie wanting to team up with Lebron. Pelicans realize trading AD creates a super team LA. They say no way they are helping create that, we'll just wait for Boston. Doubt that's the case but you never know.

Thats like next level 3D or 4D chess or whatever it is called.

[ConstableGeneva]

Don't know about you guys, but it makes me nervous when Curm is having fun and admitting it in public.

[Floody100]

Worst-case scenario would be that New Orleans is going to use us in order to get more from the Lakers in June, and we miss out on trade opportunities now and then, and have another draft where we have more picks than roster spots.

If that’s the case, we go hard for Bradley Beal

[nickgammon]

I just had an interesting thought, maybe it really was the celtics leaking Kyrie wanting to team up with Lebron. Pelicans realize trading AD creates a super team LA. They say no way they are helping create that, we'll just wait for Boston. Doubt that's the case but you never know.

Thats like next level 3D or 4D chess or whatever it is called.

Using the media against themselves would absolutely be something I could see Danny and Kyrie doing. Everything that the talking heads have been going on about really feeds directly into Danny’s hand.

[Floody100]

Sure. If the Cs want to rip their team apart and lose their long term future than they can be the favorites sure. For two years the Cs have been the team with the best blend of high end youthful talent with vet leadership. Talk of the league. Now everyone wants to kick that to the curb for a quick fix. And its not just Tatum and Brown. Its Smart. And or Williams. And or Horford.

People need to chill. What if this core explodes and makes a long run? Thats a very likely scenario as well.

THERE IS NO LONG-TERM FUTURE WITHOUT AD

No? Huh. Thats interesting. AD will be 26 by the time they get him and he is a big man with some injury issues already. Kyrie has had some knee issues himself. 30 is the magic number for both as far as past that its a crapshoot health wise. So thats roughly 4 years of certainty and who knows what else afterwards.

Also, if there is no future without AD, then that must mean both Jaylen and Tatum stink and will stink in the future right? And if they aren't good enough for the Cs future, why would New Orleans want them?

Why are you thinking that far ahead mate ?
We have a chance here to win a couple of championships. We’ll think about that when it comes around.

[Floody100]

I just had an interesting thought, maybe it really was the celtics leaking Kyrie wanting to team up with Lebron. Pelicans realize trading AD creates a super team LA. They say no way they are helping create that, we'll just wait for Boston. Doubt that's the case but you never know.

Thats like next level 3D or 4D chess or whatever it is called.

Using the media against themselves would absolutely be something I could see Danny and Kyrie doing. Everything that the talking heads have been going on about really feeds directly into Danny’s hand.

Damn I hope that’s true
The media looking like fools is something that doesn’t happen enough.