Anthony Davis Requests Trade, pt 2

Tatumfor2 · Post #321 » by **Tatumfor2** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:16 am

Here's a "what if" for you...

What if Toronto pulls off the trade of trades for AD now. Kawhi is likely leaving, AD would follow suit the year after. They would probably trade him to recoup what they lost. Would we be willing to give up Tatum an Brown to the Raptors? I'd be sick to my stomach watching that. Projectile vomit if AD leaves.

Another question. A trade doesn't happen. Am I right in assuming we can sign Kyrie before making the trade for AD? Not just wait for him to opt out, but actually sign him? If Kyrie doesn't sign, then we don't trade for AD...

Post #322 » by **K For Three** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:18 am

Some gems from LakersGround.

I agree that AD is best as a third banana on a true championship contender.

He wouldn't be putting up those numbers as a third banana, though. When he embraces his inner Kevin Love on a team with Lebron and Kyrie I think Davis will finally really help a team win.

And yet his teams don't win. I wonder if having Randle and Okafor as his backups is inflating his DRPM. Anecdotally he's seemed quite 'meh' on defense in the games that I watched.

But on the positive side, he would have more energy to focus on defense when he's the third banana on the Lakers and can focus on rim protection and finishing lobs like Clint Capela.

Moves can be made. The point is Klay has his eyes on the Lakers.

Gs blinks he will be ours

Just forget about AD, get Kyrie in FA, and by the time Lebron leaves you'll have Kyrie, Ingram, Ball, and Kuz balling

Ugh, Kyrie is so annoying, though.

Looks like pelicans want Ball

Take that ball haters

Magic needs to give NO anything and everything they want to get AD. The more of our garbage they take the better off we will be moving forward. Take sorry ass Lonzo, lazy Ingram and air ball’n Hart. Take overrated Kuzma and flash in the pan Zubac. Take it all!!!!! These guys are not going to turn into anything special. If magic doesn’t get AD before the deadline he might as well resign because he will have failed and not delivered on his promise.

KGtabake · Post #323 » by **KGtabake** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:20 am

I can't believe what i'm reading on the internet in the last few days by Cs fans.
We are ready to trade the farm at summer for a guy that doesn't want to play for us.

Why should i trade my future for a guy that doesn't even want to be here?
I really think AD is awesome and all BUT we will be good even if we don't get him.
I hate the fact that he made his request now because it only means that he doesn't want to play here.
He had no other reason to do that. He knew.
He had no other reason to sign with RPs agency.
He dined with lebron and let everyone know about it.
They could have dined without letting anyone know.
These "details" tell the story here.

I'm not trading tatum for a guy who will be gone after a year. **** no.
Especially for a guy that wants to play on my greatest rival.

The way i see it, a player should be ecstatic and thrilled at the possibility of playing for the celtics.
If you are not thrilled about wearing that uniform, you don't belong here(that goes for kyrie too and his weird behavior lately---why the **** should everybody know that he called lebron to ask for an apology? Why should this become public?)

I hear people saying "we'll get him, we'll win the championship and he will be convinced to stay"..........like i'm hearing the raptors fanbase on reddit.....they will literally kneel in front of leonard at summer and they will beg him to stay. Pathetic.
We are NOT the raptors.
This is the greatest franchise in game. Players are supposed to beg to play here not the other way around.

Have some pride will you? He doesn't want to come? Fine.
We'll be great even without him.
We have youth, current talent and a load of picks.

If kyrie doesn't want to stay either he can leave too. I don't care. I'll get KD. I'll go for Boogie. For kemba.
Everybody can go wherever the hell they want to if they don't feel pride wearing this uniform.
We are the Celtics.

ViperGTS · Post #324 » by **ViperGTS** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:25 am

Floody100 wrote:
ViperGTS wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
THERE IS NO LONG-TERM FUTURE WITHOUT AD

No? Huh. Thats interesting. AD will be 26 by the time they get him and he is a big man with some injury issues already. Kyrie has had some knee issues himself. 30 is the magic number for both as far as past that its a crapshoot health wise. So thats roughly 4 years of certainty and who knows what else afterwards.

Also, if there is no future without AD, then that must mean both Jaylen and Tatum stink and will stink in the future right? And if they aren't good enough for the Cs future, why would New Orleans want them?

Why are you thinking that far ahead mate ?
We have a chance here to win a couple of championships. We’ll think about that when it comes around.

Because long term success is very important. They had the “quick” fix in ‘08. Got one title out of it. Injuries happen. LeBron can happen. If the Nets had not been dumb, who knows if Stevens is here. Kyrie, Tatum and Brown wouldn’t be for certain. No, I like where they are now and do not see the wisdom in trading both Brown and Tatum. One of them gives you a future.

Post #325 » by **K For Three** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:32 am

nickgammon wrote:
Kyrie For Three wrote:
Scarletfire81 wrote:I just had an interesting thought, maybe it really was the celtics leaking Kyrie wanting to team up with Lebron. Pelicans realize trading AD creates a super team LA. They say no way they are helping create that, we'll just wait for Boston. Doubt that's the case but you never know.

Thats like next level 3D or 4D chess or whatever it is called.

Using the media against themselves would absolutely be something I could see Danny and Kyrie doing. Everything that the talking heads have been going on about really feeds directly into Danny’s hand.

Spoiler:

Andrew McCeltic · Post #326 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:33 am

Kyrie For Three wrote:Some gems from LakersGround.

I agree that AD is best as a third banana on a true championship contender.

He wouldn't be putting up those numbers as a third banana, though. When he embraces his inner Kevin Love on a team with Lebron and Kyrie I think Davis will finally really help a team win.

And yet his teams don't win. I wonder if having Randle and Okafor as his backups is inflating his DRPM. Anecdotally he's seemed quite 'meh' on defense in the games that I watched.

But on the positive side, he would have more energy to focus on defense when he's the third banana on the Lakers and can focus on rim protection and finishing lobs like Clint Capela.

Moves can be made. The point is Klay has his eyes on the Lakers.

Gs blinks he will be ours

Just forget about AD, get Kyrie in FA, and by the time Lebron leaves you'll have Kyrie, Ingram, Ball, and Kuz balling

Ugh, Kyrie is so annoying, though.

Looks like pelicans want Ball

Take that ball haters

Magic needs to give NO anything and everything they want to get AD. The more of our garbage they take the better off we will be moving forward. Take sorry ass Lonzo, lazy Ingram and air ball’n Hart. Take overrated Kuzma and flash in the pan Zubac. Take it all!!!!! These guys are not going to turn into anything special. If magic doesn’t get AD before the deadline he might as well resign because he will have failed and not delivered on his promise.

Jesus.. I did wonder if Davis with Lebron might work out as well as Dwight with Kobe..

Jaqua92 · Post #327 » by **Jaqua92** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:37 am

Can someone point out where AD said he didnt want to play in Boston? Its been said by many posters, but that rumor barely came out of Lakers media..nvm national media..nevermind AD himself. In fact, it was said that the appeal of playing in Boston for him would be teamming up with Kyrie. Speculation probably. But all there is is speculation.

AD NEVER SAID HE DOESNT WANT TO PLAY IN BOSTON PEOPLE.

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Scarletfire81 · Post #328 » by **Scarletfire81** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:39 am

Kyrie For Three wrote:
nickgammon wrote:
Kyrie For Three wrote:Thats like next level 3D or 4D chess or whatever it is called.

Using the media against themselves would absolutely be something I could see Danny and Kyrie doing. Everything that the talking heads have been going on about really feeds directly into Danny’s hand.

Spoiler:

Was this pic taken recently? LOL

Post #329 » by **K For Three** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:39 am

Jaqua92 wrote:Can someone point out where AD said he didnt want to play in Boston? Its been said by many posters, but that rumor barely came out of Lakers media..nvm national media..nevermind AD himself. In fact, it was said that the appeal of playing in Boston for him would be teamming up with Kyrie.

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He never said this. LA-ESPN just wants you to think he only wants the Lakers.

Post #330 » by **K For Three** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:40 am

Scarletfire81 wrote:
Kyrie For Three wrote:
nickgammon wrote:
Using the media against themselves would absolutely be something I could see Danny and Kyrie doing. Everything that the talking heads have been going on about really feeds directly into Danny’s hand.

Spoiler:

Was this pic taken recently? LOL

lol no that was from last season when they were seen at Chipotle. Was just adding some drama to our conspiracy.

KGtabake · Post #331 » by **KGtabake** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:42 am

Jaqua92 wrote:Can someone point out where AD said he didnt want to play in Boston? Its been said by many posters, but that rumor barely came out of Lakers media..nvm national media..nevermind AD himself. In fact, it was said that the appeal of playing in Boston for him would be teamming up with Kyrie. Speculation probably. But all there is is speculation.

AD NEVER SAID HE DOESNT WANT TO PLAY IN BOSTON PEOPLE.

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He doesn't have to say it. Actions speak louder than words.
Why did he made a trade request now when he knew that the Celtics would not be able to trade for him?
All other 28 teams can. Only the Celtics can't.
Why?

Scarletfire81 · Post #332 » by **Scarletfire81** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:43 am

Kyrie For Three wrote:
Scarletfire81 wrote:
Kyrie For Three wrote:
Spoiler:

Was this pic taken recently? LOL

lol no that was from last season when they were seen at Chipotle. Was just adding some drama to our conspiracy.

I wouldnt be surprised if they actually are brainstorming ways to mess with the lakers and media.

GoCeltics123 · Post #333 » by **GoCeltics123** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:48 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:
ViperGTS wrote:
Valid wrote:Except it has A LOT to do with them.

Last year, Tatum, Brown, Smart and Rozier took us to Game 7 of the ECF. What have Kuzma, Ingram and Ball done that is even CLOSE to that?

Hart is a glue guy and nothing more. The Pelicans are not going to give a crap if he is thrown in the deal.

The Celtics' young talent is so superior to LA's that it's not even funny, and you KNOW this. You just don't want to lose Tatum and Brown so you are just trying to convince yourself that the Celtics are not the favorites to land AD even though they clearly are.

And for the record, I do NOT want to trade Tatum, but I am not blind to the facts.

And you know what else? If the Knicks offer Porzingis and their draft pick (which could be No. 1), their package is also better than LA's.

Sure. If the Cs want to rip their team apart and lose their long term future than they can be the favorites sure. For two years the Cs have been the team with the best blend of high end youthful talent with vet leadership. Talk of the league. Now everyone wants to kick that to the curb for a quick fix. And its not just Tatum and Brown. Its Smart. And or Williams. And or Horford.

People need to chill. What if this core explodes and makes a long run? Thats a very likely scenario as well.

THERE IS NO LONG-TERM FUTURE WITHOUT AD

This is very false.

We are not the Rockets. We don't have an old roster and have no assets. It is young. As of now Kyrie is committed, according to all the non Rich Paul-fed media sources like O'Connor, Robb, Amick, Bulpett, and reload here on realgm.

If you don't get AD, your roster is fine. There is a lot of talent on this roster. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.

If you don't get AD, you wait this out for the next star, or stick with the roster you have and go for it. As hard as it is for some fans on this board to believe, Tatum and Brown could be stars one day!

Cave, you're a great poster, but you're incorrect on this one.

Read on Twitter

ViperGTS · Post #334 » by **ViperGTS** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:50 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
ViperGTS wrote:
Sure. If the Cs want to rip their team apart and lose their long term future than they can be the favorites sure. For two years the Cs have been the team with the best blend of high end youthful talent with vet leadership. Talk of the league. Now everyone wants to kick that to the curb for a quick fix. And its not just Tatum and Brown. Its Smart. And or Williams. And or Horford.

People need to chill. What if this core explodes and makes a long run? Thats a very likely scenario as well.

THERE IS NO LONG-TERM FUTURE WITHOUT AD

This is very false.

We are not the Rockets. We don't have an old roster and have no assets. It is young. As of now Kyrie is committed, according to all the non Rich Paul-fed media sources like O'Connor, Robb, Amick, Bulpett, and reload here on realgm.

If you don't get AD, your roster is fine. There is a lot of talent on this roster. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.

You wait this out for the next star, or stick with the roster you have and go for it. As hard as it is for some fans on this board to believe, Tatum and Brown could be stars one day!

Read on Twitter

He has a hard on for AD is all. It is understandable but also clouds judgement. Probably the first time, from media and fans I have ever heard there is no future without AD.

exculpatory · Post #335 » by **exculpatory** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:56 am

Bruno, Cave, et al.
I am sorry.
I love AD & I realize that he is a phenomenal talent, but I do NOT want JT moved.
I am not crazy about moving Cobra either, but I can swallow it.
Hoping the Sac & Memphis picks become maximally desirable & JB totally balls out the rest of the year.
Mother **** dilemma.
And I am not convinced AD will stay.

PS I had no problem trading AJ etc for KG. Truth, Traitor & Ticket were made for each other.

And Paul Pierce is NOT **** Beadle. 1) He has a great wife & 3 great kids. 2) She once was hottish but no longer.

robdog_5 · Post #336 » by **robdog_5** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:57 am

AD has never said he doesn't want to be in Boston. He wants to compete for a title. His agent will leak stuff to steer him to Lakers because that benefits Lebron and that is his main goal.

GoCeltics123 · Post #337 » by **GoCeltics123** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 5:58 am

ViperGTS wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
THERE IS NO LONG-TERM FUTURE WITHOUT AD

This is very false.

We are not the Rockets. We don't have an old roster and have no assets. It is young. As of now Kyrie is committed, according to all the non Rich Paul-fed media sources like O'Connor, Robb, Amick, Bulpett, and reload here on realgm.

If you don't get AD, your roster is fine. There is a lot of talent on this roster. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.

You wait this out for the next star, or stick with the roster you have and go for it. As hard as it is for some fans on this board to believe, Tatum and Brown could be stars one day!

Read on Twitter

He has a hard on for AD is all. It is understandable but also clouds judgement. Probably the first time, from media and fans I have ever heard there is no future without AD.

Well AD is a f***** amazing player, and you're a super duper title contender with him. His hard on is justified, AD is that good.

But declaring this roster what it is now is f***** stupid, even if the Lakeshow get AD (or even more hopefully not the Knicks), mainly if Kyrie stays. It's a really f****** good roster talent-wise. Most teams would kill to have the amount of talent we do. And it's young!!!!!!! Not old, young!!! It'll only get better.

If we don't get AD it f***** blows, but you move on. I want AD bad, just like I wanted KG bad at the time, but unlike 2007, the existing Celtics team could honestly get to the Finals and get it to 5/6 with such a young roster. And with GS likely breaking up a bit next year.

Captain_Caveman · Post #338 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:02 am

KGtabake wrote:I can't believe what i'm reading on the internet in the last few days by Cs fans.
We are ready to trade the farm at summer for a guy that doesn't want to play for us.

Why should i trade my future for a guy that doesn't even want to be here?
I really think AD is awesome and all BUT we will be good even if we don't get him.
I hate the fact that he made his request now because it only means that he doesn't want to play here.
He had no other reason to do that. He knew.
He had no other reason to sign with RPs agency.
He dined with lebron and let everyone know about it.
They could have dined without letting anyone know.
These "details" tell the story here.

I'm not trading tatum for a guy who will be gone after a year. **** no.
Especially for a guy that wants to play on my greatest rival.

The way i see it, a player should be ecstatic and thrilled at the possibility of playing for the celtics.
If you are not thrilled about wearing that uniform, you don't belong here(that goes for kyrie too and his weird behavior lately---why the **** should everybody know that he called lebron to ask for an apology? Why should this become public?)

I hear people saying "we'll get him, we'll win the championship and he will be convinced to stay"..........like i'm hearing the raptors fanbase on reddit.....they will literally kneel in front of leonard at summer and they will beg him to stay. Pathetic.
We are NOT the raptors.
This is the greatest franchise in game. Players are supposed to beg to play here not the other way around.

Have some pride will you? He doesn't want to come? Fine.
We'll be great even without him.
We have youth, current talent and a load of picks.

If kyrie doesn't want to stay either he can leave too. I don't care. I'll get KD. I'll go for Boogie. For kemba.
Everybody can go wherever the hell they want to if they don't feel pride wearing this uniform.
We are the Celtics.

KG and Pierce preferred the Lakers, too.

Russell didn't want to be here, either.

Bird would have gladly played for the Pacers over us.

STOP NOOBING.

Parasite · Post #339 » by **Parasite** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:03 am

Floody100 wrote:
nickgammon wrote:
Kyrie For Three wrote:Thats like next level 3D or 4D chess or whatever it is called.

Using the media against themselves would absolutely be something I could see Danny and Kyrie doing. Everything that the talking heads have been going on about really feeds directly into Danny’s hand.

Damn I hope that’s true
The media looking like fools is something that doesn’t happen enough.

Really??? I think it happens multiple times a day! :lol:

Captain_Caveman · Post #340 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Thu Jan 31, 2019 6:05 am

ViperGTS wrote:
Floody100 wrote:
ViperGTS wrote:
No? Huh. Thats interesting. AD will be 26 by the time they get him and he is a big man with some injury issues already. Kyrie has had some knee issues himself. 30 is the magic number for both as far as past that its a crapshoot health wise. So thats roughly 4 years of certainty and who knows what else afterwards.

Also, if there is no future without AD, then that must mean both Jaylen and Tatum stink and will stink in the future right? And if they aren't good enough for the Cs future, why would New Orleans want them?

Why are you thinking that far ahead mate ?
We have a chance here to win a couple of championships. We’ll think about that when it comes around.

Because long term success is very important. They had the “quick” fix in ‘08. Got one title out of it. Injuries happen. LeBron can happen. If the Nets had not been dumb, who knows if Stevens is here. Kyrie, Tatum and Brown wouldn’t be for certain. No, I like where they are now and do not see the wisdom in trading both Brown and Tatum. One of them gives you a future.

What in the **** do you think we were looking at if we just stood pat in 2007?

**** outta here with this.

It is very, very hard to win a title in this league, and it almost only happens if you have multiple HOF-caliber guys on your team. You get a chance to strike, you strike.

The end.