2019 Pacers Trade Deadline Thread

[HurricaneDij25]

We are now 0-4 since Oladipo went down with three of those losses coming against underwhelming opponents. Does anyone here foresee us making any moves next week???

Personally, I think we need to think about stockpiling for next season given that we will almost be a shoe-in first round out without Vic.

A couple of modest ideas to start out with for us to potentially look into:

1) Bojan to OKC for Abrines, TLC, and a first rounder
2) Bojan to the Spurs for Rudy Gay and a first rounder

[Vorda]

We should give 2nd pick to NY for Matthews... we need some shooting... exept Bojan nobody cant shoot in this team

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[Wizop]

Doug can shoot. he's got injured ribs though and isn't expected to play in Miami. DC can shoot.

all of a sudden Sabonis can no longer shoot a 2 footer. I imagine Quinn is right and he is worn out and his legs need a rest. that's a big part of this losing streak. lets hope the all star break gets him back to normal.

I buy the notion that the focus should be on next year, but how does giving up expiring contracts for some team's bench player help us. isn't the summer cap room advantageous for us? please don't give me the no one would ever want to come to Indianapolis argument. we may not be in the Durant sweepstakes but Pritchard has had more hits than misses in the free agent market.

[Vorda]

Thats why we have 0-4 last 4 games couse they can shoot

[Wizop]

Thats why we have 0-4 last 4 games couse they can shoot

McMillan said we ran out of gas. I'm not sure I buy that, but I don't buy that the problem was on offense either. we gave up 38 points in the 4th quarter. the problem was defense - their shooting, not ours.

I'd consider trading for Ross though.

[pacers33granger]

If we can get a decent asset back, yeah sure sell off some of the vets who may not be back. But we're not getting those offers and it would be better to keep bird rights than get a 2nd or something minor.

[Vorda]

Many teams will have a lot of cap space in summer... we need all star player cause Vic is not enough... I dont see who can that be...

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[Scoot McGroot]

Many teams will have a lot of cap space in summer... we need all star player cause Vic is not enough... I dont see who can that be...

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We could definitely get an all star player. It's just a steep price. But yeah, a package of Dom/Bojan/1st could net a star player.

[Tom White]

Many teams will have a lot of cap space in summer... we need all star player cause Vic is not enough... I dont see who can that be...

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We could definitely get an all star player. It's just a steep price. But yeah, a package of Dom/Bojan/1st could net a star player.

That would indeed be a steep price. I understand you have to give in order to get, but two starting level players + a pick who could become a starter in the future seems awful high.

Guess it depends on who the "star" we would get is, and at what position.

Who knows? Maybe the Gordon Hayward experiment in Boston goes south and they make him available? On the other hand, maybe the sun rises in the west some day?

Damn, I hate to say it but, mainly because he is overpaid, the idea of Conley working along with Turner, Domas and Thad is actually sounding better to me.

[pacers33granger]

Many teams will have a lot of cap space in summer... we need all star player cause Vic is not enough... I dont see who can that be...

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We could definitely get an all star player. It's just a steep price. But yeah, a package of Dom/Bojan/1st could net a star player.

That would indeed be a steep price. I understand you have to give in order to get, but two starting level players + a pick who could become a starter in the future seems awful high.

Guess it depends on who the "star" we would get is, and at what position.

Who knows? Maybe the Gordon Hayward experiment in Boston goes south and they make him available? On the other hand, maybe the sun rises in the west some day?

Damn, I hate to say it but, mainly because he is overpaid, the idea of Conley working along with Turner, Domas and Thad is actually sounding better to me.

Tbf that pick could also become a waste of a roster spot and cap space much easier than it could a starter given our likely draft position.

Also, if it was Conley I'd hope we would keep Domas out. But we'd need to add 1-2 more rotation guys just to match salaries. Same for Hayward who would have to come with some serious incentive attached as he's been horrendous and doesn't show signs of improving (nor was he worth the deal in the first place anyways).

[Vorda]

I just heard that Bulls want DC... I hope its not only rumor... what can we get for him... Dunn?

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[boomershadow]

I was totally against selling off Thad or DC for picks before the Oladipo injury, but the team right now just looks like it knows ita chances went down the tubes. Send Thad somewhere he can make a legit playoff push.

Start the Turner/Sabonis experiment full time. Ramp up for next year.

[Vorda]

I was totally against selling off Thad or DC for picks before the Oladipo injury, but the team right now just looks like it knows ita chances went down the tubes. Send Thad somewhere he can make a legit playoff push.

Start the Turner/Sabonis experiment full time. Ramp up for next year.

No, Domas is not PF, and we need him as a six men... who will play from the bench if we move him in starting 5... We should take Matthews for 2nd pick... we will probably play in PO so we need to do something...

[BooomBaby]

we will probably play in PO so we need to do something...

We will, but they've given up, as have I.

The season is done and over with. Time to trade away whichever player is needed and continue to develop for the future.

Not one single player on this team should be untouchable.

[pacers33granger]

Does anyone expect any other team to give us anything of value for our vets though? We rightfully crap on all of them sans Thad, and he's historically been undervalued. Maybe someone gives a late first for him? But do we really care about a pick in this draft? We've got numerous guys developing as is and it's a weak draft outside of the top, plus we've still got our own.

Ultimately if anyone is expecting more than a garbage player back with a 2nd or two for Bogie, DC, Cojo, or KOQ, you're going to be disappointed.

[basketballwacko2]

Many teams will have a lot of cap space in summer... we need all star player cause Vic is not enough... I dont see who can that be...

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We could definitely get an all star player. It's just a steep price. But yeah, a package of Dom/Bojan/1st could net a star player.

That would indeed be a steep price. I understand you have to give in order to get, but two starting level players + a pick who could become a starter in the future seems awful high.

Guess it depends on who the "star" we would get is, and at what position.

Who knows? Maybe the Gordon Hayward experiment in Boston goes south and they make him available? On the other hand, maybe the sun rises in the west some day?

Damn, I hate to say it but, mainly because he is overpaid, the idea of Conley working along with Turner, Domas and Thad is actually sounding better to me.

Conley is horribly over paid. There is no way I'd do it during the season because matching salary would be murder. Especially when we don't have any bad contracts to send them.

[basketballwacko2]

I was totally against selling off Thad or DC for picks before the Oladipo injury, but the team right now just looks like it knows ita chances went down the tubes. Send Thad somewhere he can make a legit playoff push.

Start the Turner/Sabonis experiment full time. Ramp up for next year.

No, Domas is not PF, and we need him as a six men... who will play from the bench if we move him in starting 5... We should take Matthews for 2nd pick... we will probably play in PO so we need to do something...

Who are you sending to match salary for Matthews? He's $18.6 million.

[basketballwacko2]

Does anyone expect any other team to give us anything of value for our vets though? We rightfully crap on all of them sans Thad, and he's historically been undervalued. Maybe someone gives a late first for him? But do we really care about a pick in this draft? We've got numerous guys developing as is and it's a weak draft outside of the top, plus we've still got our own.

Ultimately if anyone is expecting more than a garbage player back with a 2nd or two for Bogie, DC, Cojo, or KOQ, you're going to be disappointed.

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Yeah we're not getting jack unless we're taking a longer contract. Memphis is not giving any picks to take on Conley. I'm for holding out till summer even if we fall right out of the playoffs. The next 30 games are gonna be rough unless these guys get their collective sh** together.

[Scoot McGroot]

Via Zach Lowe

The same cap reasoning made Indiana an appealing Conley suitor before Victor Oladipo's season-ending injury: Who is Indiana signing in free agency that is better than Conley? (One potential answer, sources say: Middleton. But luring a good player away from a contending team like the Bucks is really hard unless Milwaukee gets too cute in negotiations with Middleton.) You could argue Oladipo's injury, and what it does to Indiana's playoff hopes, shouldn't really alter their plans -- even amid a losing streak. If they wanted Conley before they should want him now for the same reason: He sets them up to be very good next season.

Building an offer is tricky. To make the money work, Indiana can really offer only expiring contracts, and all of the movable ones are linked to primary ball handlers: Darren Collison, Cory Joseph, and Tyreke Evans. (The Pacers want to re-sign Bojan Bogdanovic, also working on an expiring contract, sources say.) They could toss in their 2019 first-round pick, but that might not be of much interest to the Grizzlies.

Adding Aaron Holiday gets you close -- and maybe all the way there -- but it also costs yet another ball handler. They could find a third team to supply some matching salary, so they could keep one of those point guards. In any case, the current buzz is that Indiana has stepped away from Conley talks, sources say.

• The Grizzlies probably would ask for Domantas Sabonis, and the Pacers don't appear ready to go there. I do think Indiana will eventually have to choose between Sabonis and Myles Turner. I'm not sure they will ever mesh quite well enough for Indiana to play them the sort of heavy minutes together -- like, say, 20-plus per game -- that would justify paying them something like $40 million combined per season. (Sabonis will be up for an extension this summer, and you can bet he wants -- and deserves -- a monster deal.)

Both should remain positive trade assets. Turner's four-year, $72 million extension already looks like a tidy deal. I don't expect a deal at the deadline, but you can never rule it out. Teams sometimes sell high before we expect it.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25902818/nba-trade-deadline-preview-zach-lowe-expect

A lot more info there from around the league, but this was essentially the bulk of Indy stuff. Some of this is just his opinion (what he'd like to see), and what he's actually heard.

[Scoot McGroot]

Important in there is the reference that the Pacers would like to re-sign Bojan, which, duh. I think as long as he's not off the charts expensive, we'd look to bring him back.