The Knicks Scenario

[truth18]

If Kyrie leaves Boston and Kawhi leaves Toronto, at least the Raptors are still a playoff team. Celtics are left with Tatum and $60m tied up in Haywood and Horford. Siakam is a better player now then Tatum... albeit, I'd say Tatum is a better prospect. Lowry and Ibaka expire which at least creates $50m in cap space. Celtics are capped out.

LOL have you forgotten we made it to the ECF without kyrie last year? meanwhile the raps got rudely swept away by the cavs without kawhi -- and they still had derozan.

tatum is definitely a better prospect, and he's improving. i don't agree that siakam is better now, but even if true, that won't be for long.

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

You take that back about Haywood.

[Feed Your Head]

If Kyrie leaves Boston and Kawhi leaves Toronto, at least the Raptors are still a playoff team. Celtics are left with Tatum and $60m tied up in Haywood and Horford. Siakam is a better player now then Tatum... albeit, I'd say Tatum is a better prospect. Lowry and Ibaka expire which at least creates $50m in cap space. Celtics are capped out.

LOL have you forgotten we made it to the ECF without kyrie last year? meanwhile the raps got rudely swept away by the cavs without kawhi -- and they still had derozan.

tatum is definitely a better prospect, and he's improving. i don't agree that siakam is better now, but even if true, that won't be for long.

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

Nobody cares. Go away.

These insecure Raptor fans are adorable.

[ermocrate]

If Kyrie leaves Boston and Kawhi leaves Toronto, at least the Raptors are still a playoff team. Celtics are left with Tatum and $60m tied up in Haywood and Horford. Siakam is a better player now then Tatum... albeit, I'd say Tatum is a better prospect. Lowry and Ibaka expire which at least creates $50m in cap space. Celtics are capped out.

LOL have you forgotten we made it to the ECF without kyrie last year? meanwhile the raps got rudely swept away by the cavs without kawhi -- and they still had derozan.

tatum is definitely a better prospect, and he's improving. i don't agree that siakam is better now, but even if true, that won't be for long.

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

Horford will come off the book in 2020 so no, you're wrong.

[bootsythornton]

LOL have you forgotten we made it to the ECF without kyrie last year? meanwhile the raps got rudely swept away by the cavs without kawhi -- and they still had derozan.

tatum is definitely a better prospect, and he's improving. i don't agree that siakam is better now, but even if true, that won't be for long.

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

Horford will come off the book in 2020 so no, you're wrong.

correct, but he's on the books for this offseason.... which is the best F/A class in a long time. Wait until Ainge resigns Rozier for $12-14m per as well. Cap Hell.

[ParticleMan]

If Kyrie leaves Boston and Kawhi leaves Toronto, at least the Raptors are still a playoff team. Celtics are left with Tatum and $60m tied up in Haywood and Horford. Siakam is a better player now then Tatum... albeit, I'd say Tatum is a better prospect. Lowry and Ibaka expire which at least creates $50m in cap space. Celtics are capped out.

LOL have you forgotten we made it to the ECF without kyrie last year? meanwhile the raps got rudely swept away by the cavs without kawhi -- and they still had derozan.

tatum is definitely a better prospect, and he's improving. i don't agree that siakam is better now, but even if true, that won't be for long.

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

Horford has been our best player in the playoffs two years in a row. yes, that includes IT's offensive explosions. he is not regressing like crazy, he is the same as ever, and that is damn good. and you're "forgetting" jaylen brown, who led us in scoring in a playoff series last year. rozier is pretty good too. if kyrie bolts we're hardly sunk. he, jaylen, tatum, and horford took us to the ECF last year. smart has finally found his shot, he is absolutely underpaid now. i'll give you hayward, that was bad luck, but players typically take a full year of playing to recover from a load-bearing broken bone. jury's out on whether he'll be back. it's a bummer but we're fine without him even if he never recovers. plus we've got a TON of picks, memphis, sacto, clips, in addition to ours. ainge is pretty good with picks, in case you hadn't noticed.

i'm glad you would take toronto's position. you and your GM are equally idiotic. trading for kawhi when everyone knows he's a rental, lol.

and one more thing: kyrie's a LOT more likely to stay than kawhi. and that's even if we don't get AD.

[bootsythornton]

LOL have you forgotten we made it to the ECF without kyrie last year? meanwhile the raps got rudely swept away by the cavs without kawhi -- and they still had derozan.

tatum is definitely a better prospect, and he's improving. i don't agree that siakam is better now, but even if true, that won't be for long.

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

You take that back about Haywood.

It was bad luck with him more then anything. But it sure does compound a cap problem in the future.... especially if Rozier is resigned.

Don't even get me going about the poor use of the Kings pick.

[bootsythornton]

LOL have you forgotten we made it to the ECF without kyrie last year? meanwhile the raps got rudely swept away by the cavs without kawhi -- and they still had derozan.

tatum is definitely a better prospect, and he's improving. i don't agree that siakam is better now, but even if true, that won't be for long.

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

Horford has been our best player in the playoffs two years in a row. yes, that includes IT's offensive explosions. he is not regressing like crazy, he is the same as ever, and that is damn good. and you're "forgetting" jaylen brown, who led us in scoring in a playoff series last year. rozier is pretty good too. if kyrie bolts we're hardly sunk. he, jaylen, tatum, and horford took us to the ECF last year. smart has finally found his shot, he is absolutely underpaid now. i'll give you hayward, that was bad luck, but players typically take a full year of playing to recover from a load-bearing broken bone. jury's out on whether he'll be back. it's a bummer but we're fine without him even if he never recovers. plus we've got a TON of picks, memphis, sacto, clips, in addition to ours. ainge is pretty good with picks, in case you hadn't noticed.

i'm glad you would take toronto's position. you and your GM are equally idiotic. trading for kawhi when everyone knows he's a rental, lol.

and one more thing: kyrie's a LOT more likely to stay than kawhi. and that's even if we don't get AD.

The Kawhi Leonard trade was just as much about creating cap space and dumping DeRozen. One could argue the Raptors are actually a better team with Danny Green in the starting lineup over DeRozen. So ya, Masai unloaded $30m in contract in one go. Now he has room for 2 max free agents to pair with Siakam in 2020.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

Horford has been our best player in the playoffs two years in a row. yes, that includes IT's offensive explosions. he is not regressing like crazy, he is the same as ever, and that is damn good. and you're "forgetting" jaylen brown, who led us in scoring in a playoff series last year. rozier is pretty good too. if kyrie bolts we're hardly sunk. he, jaylen, tatum, and horford took us to the ECF last year. smart has finally found his shot, he is absolutely underpaid now. i'll give you hayward, that was bad luck, but players typically take a full year of playing to recover from a load-bearing broken bone. jury's out on whether he'll be back. it's a bummer but we're fine without him even if he never recovers. plus we've got a TON of picks, memphis, sacto, clips, in addition to ours. ainge is pretty good with picks, in case you hadn't noticed.

i'm glad you would take toronto's position. you and your GM are equally idiotic. trading for kawhi when everyone knows he's a rental, lol.

and one more thing: kyrie's a LOT more likely to stay than kawhi. and that's even if we don't get AD.

The Kawhi Leonard trade was just as much about creating cap space and dumping DeRozen. One could argue the Raptors are actually a better team with Danny Green in the starting lineup over DeRozen. So ya, Masai unloaded $30m in contract in one go. Now he has room for 2 max free agents to pair with Siakam in 2020.

It's too bad that cap space is practically useless when it comes to the Raptors. Maybe you guys can sign Hedo Turkoglu again. Maybe bring back Chris Bosh too. I hear they're looking for jobs. And cap it all off by bringing Vince Carter home too.

[bootsythornton]

Horford has been our best player in the playoffs two years in a row. yes, that includes IT's offensive explosions. he is not regressing like crazy, he is the same as ever, and that is damn good. and you're "forgetting" jaylen brown, who led us in scoring in a playoff series last year. rozier is pretty good too. if kyrie bolts we're hardly sunk. he, jaylen, tatum, and horford took us to the ECF last year. smart has finally found his shot, he is absolutely underpaid now. i'll give you hayward, that was bad luck, but players typically take a full year of playing to recover from a load-bearing broken bone. jury's out on whether he'll be back. it's a bummer but we're fine without him even if he never recovers. plus we've got a TON of picks, memphis, sacto, clips, in addition to ours. ainge is pretty good with picks, in case you hadn't noticed.

i'm glad you would take toronto's position. you and your GM are equally idiotic. trading for kawhi when everyone knows he's a rental, lol.

and one more thing: kyrie's a LOT more likely to stay than kawhi. and that's even if we don't get AD.

The Kawhi Leonard trade was just as much about creating cap space and dumping DeRozen. One could argue the Raptors are actually a better team with Danny Green in the starting lineup over DeRozen. So ya, Masai unloaded $30m in contract in one go. Now he has room for 2 max free agents to pair with Siakam in 2020.

It's too bad that cap space is practically useless when it comes to the Raptors. Maybe you guys can sign Hedo Turkoglu again. Maybe bring back Chris Bosh too. I hear they're looking for jobs. And cap it all off by bringing Vince Carter home too.

Celtics haven't signed a superstar in 20 years during free agency... maybe longer.... oh wait, Al Horford and Haywood are max contract superstars right?

[Turgon]

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

Horford has been our best player in the playoffs two years in a row. yes, that includes IT's offensive explosions. he is not regressing like crazy, he is the same as ever, and that is damn good. and you're "forgetting" jaylen brown, who led us in scoring in a playoff series last year. rozier is pretty good too. if kyrie bolts we're hardly sunk. he, jaylen, tatum, and horford took us to the ECF last year. smart has finally found his shot, he is absolutely underpaid now. i'll give you hayward, that was bad luck, but players typically take a full year of playing to recover from a load-bearing broken bone. jury's out on whether he'll be back. it's a bummer but we're fine without him even if he never recovers. plus we've got a TON of picks, memphis, sacto, clips, in addition to ours. ainge is pretty good with picks, in case you hadn't noticed.

i'm glad you would take toronto's position. you and your GM are equally idiotic. trading for kawhi when everyone knows he's a rental, lol.

and one more thing: kyrie's a LOT more likely to stay than kawhi. and that's even if we don't get AD.

The Kawhi Leonard trade was just as much about creating cap space and dumping DeRozen. One could argue the Raptors are actually a better team with Danny Green in the starting lineup over DeRozen. So ya, Masai unloaded $30m in contract in one go. Now he has room for 2 max free agents to pair with Siakam in 2020.

Son, you don't make sense. The only contracts guaranteed in the same period for us are Smart and the last year of Hayward.

Your juvenile attempt to troll (I'm sure you're very young, and it shows) didn't even let you check your facts:Horford is only guaranteed for another year. In the same period we have Smart (one of the best contracts in the league right now), Horford and Hayward guaranteed, you have Lowry, Ibaka and Valenciunas earning the same. Plus fricking Norman Powell adding another 10+.

We could have two maximum contracts too, if we really wanted. But we actually do have a few guys we'd like to keep, something that does not happen with you.

And this is all assuming Kyrie leaves and we don't get Davis, which strange as it may be is a lot less likely to happen than Kawhi bolting.

[Feed Your Head]

Hahah sportsyard made a thread on the gb about the Celtics, the insecurity is strong.

[Captain_Caveman]

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

You take that back about Haywood.

It was bad luck with him more then anything. But it sure does compound a cap problem in the future.... especially if Rozier is resigned.

Don't even get me going about the poor use of the Kings pick.

Stop talking out of your ass. You would trade Siakam for Tatum in a second. You would trade front offices in a second, too.

Boston sports fans have a PhD in wining championships, while Toronto fans dropped out of kindergarten. The best Raptor team ever doesn't even crack our Top 25.

Get your dumbass takes and weak troll game out of here.

BTW, Kawhi is a Clipper. Consider that sourced.

[reload141]

You take that back about Haywood.

It was bad luck with him more then anything. But it sure does compound a cap problem in the future.... especially if Rozier is resigned.

Don't even get me going about the poor use of the Kings pick.

Stop talking out of your ass. You would trade Siakam for Tatum in a second. You would trade front offices in a second, too.

Boston sports fans have a PhD in wining championships, while Toronto fans dropped out of kindergarten. The best Raptor team ever doesn't even crack our Top 25.

Get your dumbass takes and weak troll game out of here.

BTW, Kawhi is a Clipper. Consider that sourced.

I've got a pretty decent wager with a Clippers fan saying that he's going there and leaving the Raps for dead.

But I am more excited for the meltdown from the Raps fans than anything else....

[Scarletfire81]

It’s going to be funny seeing the Raps bounced out of the Playoffs this year and watching them melt down.

[truth18]

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

You take that back about Haywood.

It was bad luck with him more then anything. But it sure does compound a cap problem in the future.... especially if Rozier is resigned.

Don't even get me going about the poor use of the Kings pick.

Brendan Haywood is an NBA champion! What bad luck? Take it back.

[bootsythornton]

You take that back about Haywood.

It was bad luck with him more then anything. But it sure does compound a cap problem in the future.... especially if Rozier is resigned.

Don't even get me going about the poor use of the Kings pick.

Stop talking out of your ass. You would trade Siakam for Tatum in a second. You would trade front offices in a second, too.

Boston sports fans have a PhD in wining championships, while Toronto fans dropped out of kindergarten. The best Raptor team ever doesn't even crack our Top 25.

Get your dumbass takes and weak troll game out of here.

BTW, Kawhi is a Clipper. Consider that sourced.

how many top tier free agents has AInge signed? None. Capped out team and Kyrie now talking about July 1st and looking around.

[SmartWentCrazy]

If Kyrie leaves Boston and Kawhi leaves Toronto, at least the Raptors are still a playoff team. Celtics are left with Tatum and $60m tied up in Haywood and Horford. Siakam is a better player now then Tatum... albeit, I'd say Tatum is a better prospect. Lowry and Ibaka expire which at least creates $50m in cap space. Celtics are capped out.

LOL have you forgotten we made it to the ECF without kyrie last year? meanwhile the raps got rudely swept away by the cavs without kawhi -- and they still had derozan.

tatum is definitely a better prospect, and he's improving. i don't agree that siakam is better now, but even if true, that won't be for long.

In 2020, the Celtic will have $71m tied up in Haywood, Horford, and Smart. Thats HORRIBLE cap management. Horford is regressing like crazy, Haywood is nowhere near the player he was pre-injury. So yes, Tatum is a nice piece, but your pairing him with an aging overpaid core and have zero cap space. The Raptors will have Siakam and then $80m in cap space (Ibaka, Lowry, JV, Miles). I'd take Toronto position 10/10 times.

The ****? Horford will likely opt out this summer, but even if he opts in he expires at the end of next year. Hayward has two more.And Marcus Smart is on a fantastic contract.

Leaving trolling to the people who are actually good at it—you’re not even worth the suspension.

[SmartWentCrazy]

It was bad luck with him more then anything. But it sure does compound a cap problem in the future.... especially if Rozier is resigned.

Don't even get me going about the poor use of the Kings pick.

Stop talking out of your ass. You would trade Siakam for Tatum in a second. You would trade front offices in a second, too.

Boston sports fans have a PhD in wining championships, while Toronto fans dropped out of kindergarten. The best Raptor team ever doesn't even crack our Top 25.

Get your dumbass takes and weak troll game out of here.

BTW, Kawhi is a Clipper. Consider that sourced.

how many top tier free agents has AInge signed? None. Capped out team and Kyrie now talking about July 1st and looking around.

How many top tier players have either left or begged out of Toronto?

[bootsythornton]

Stop talking out of your ass. You would trade Siakam for Tatum in a second. You would trade front offices in a second, too.

Boston sports fans have a PhD in wining championships, while Toronto fans dropped out of kindergarten. The best Raptor team ever doesn't even crack our Top 25.

Get your dumbass takes and weak troll game out of here.

BTW, Kawhi is a Clipper. Consider that sourced.

how many top tier free agents has AInge signed? None. Capped out team and Kyrie now talking about July 1st and looking around.

How many top tier players have either left or begged out of Toronto?

agreed. likely both teams regress. Windows closing on both sides.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

It was bad luck with him more then anything. But it sure does compound a cap problem in the future.... especially if Rozier is resigned.

Don't even get me going about the poor use of the Kings pick.

Stop talking out of your ass. You would trade Siakam for Tatum in a second. You would trade front offices in a second, too.

Boston sports fans have a PhD in wining championships, while Toronto fans dropped out of kindergarten. The best Raptor team ever doesn't even crack our Top 25.

Get your dumbass takes and weak troll game out of here.

BTW, Kawhi is a Clipper. Consider that sourced.

how many top tier free agents has AInge signed? None. Capped out team and Kyrie now talking about July 1st and looking around.

How many top tier free agents has the Raptors signed? Come to think of it.....how many free agents have you signed under the age of 33 that have even been to an All-Star game? I'll give you a hint - it's the same number of times the Raptors have been to the NBA Finals.....and I'm about 98% sure it's also the same number of girls you've ****.