Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3

[Captain_Caveman]

FWIW, most mocks have Morant 2nd, not Barrett.

Tbh here cave, going off these reports, if the Kings pick jumps into the top 3, we don’t even need to offer up Tatum.

That insider guys said as much... but how likely is that, other than not at all?

Kings currently 13th in lottery odds, and it would take an act of God to get them into the top 10.

[Captain_Caveman]

These reports are funny. No way is a 2 year successful non bust worth as much as any unproven commodity. Not in my books. How many Pels were developed internally so far?

Other than Chris Paul and AD?

Exactly. Development is not their best quality. Tatum having 2 years of development with Stevens is a way better option.

Pretty positive that Zion would put them in the mix for AD. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd pick as well.

[FutureIsGreen]

So question, would you trade Tatum for any of the new class high picks? Does Zion have a higher ceiling than Tatum?

[CelticsPride18]

Other than Chris Paul and AD?

Exactly. Development is not their best quality. Tatum having 2 years of development with Stevens is a way better option.

Pretty positive that Zion would put them in the mix for AD. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd pick as well.

Would they do AD before a commitment from KD or Kyrie????

[Dogen]

Reminder: WHEREVER Davis is traded, he'll want that team to have given up the least possible assets for him.

I.e., if he actually, secretly hoped he'll end up in Boston, he'd want his camp to be doing pretty much exactly what they now are.

I like the way you think!

[reload141]

Other than Chris Paul and AD?

Exactly. Development is not their best quality. Tatum having 2 years of development with Stevens is a way better option.

Pretty positive that Zion would put them in the mix for AD. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd pick as well.

Curious if Knicks land at #1 and the act of god happens and Sac ends up at #2.

Either way, people claiming we should trade Kyrie would be the worst possible move to do.

We are going for the final piece this offseason in AD, we need to stick this out and see how the draft lottery goes.

I know you’ve said that Durant is likely to go to the Knicks but I wonder the chances of Golden State retaining him? Because if they do... that seriously scuttles the Knicks plans.

They need EVERY domino to fall their way.... HUGE chance it doesn’t break for them.

[FutureIsGreen]

Exactly. Development is not their best quality. Tatum having 2 years of development with Stevens is a way better option.

Pretty positive that Zion would put them in the mix for AD. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd pick as well.

Would they do AD before a commitment from KD or Kyrie????

I would, only because there are a ton of other guards available, and Terry and Marcus are enough, IT maybe too.

[Captain_Caveman]

So question, would you trade Tatum for any of the new class high picks? Does Zion have a higher ceiling than Tatum?

That's not really the question, though. It's more about which asset as a centerpiece fits best with the rest of the offer and what NO would try to do with them.

[CelticsPride18]

Exactly. Development is not their best quality. Tatum having 2 years of development with Stevens is a way better option.

Pretty positive that Zion would put them in the mix for AD. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd pick as well.

Curious if Knicks land at #1 and the act of god happens and Sac ends up at #2.

Either way, people claiming we should trade Kyrie would be the worst possible move to do.

We are going for the final piece this offseason in AD, we need to stick this out and see how the draft lottery goes.

I know you’ve said that Durant is likely to go to the Knicks but I wonder the chances of Golden State retaining him? Because if they do... that seriously scuttles the Knicks plans.

They need EVERY domino to fall their way.... HUGE chance it doesn’t break for them.

And the lottery is even more of a crap shoot with the lowered odds.

[FutureIsGreen]

So question, would you trade Tatum for any of the new class high picks? Does Zion have a higher ceiling than Tatum?

That's not really the question, though. It's more about which asset as a centerpiece fits in the whole with the rest of the offer and what NO would try to do with them.

No it's about trade value. Why target an unproven commodity? Tatum and Zion are wings. Both bring the same game, only Tatum can shoot outside so that makes him more valuable.

[CSL_1904]

Exactly. Development is not their best quality. Tatum having 2 years of development with Stevens is a way better option.

Pretty positive that Zion would put them in the mix for AD. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd pick as well.

Curious if Knicks land at #1 and the act of god happens and Sac ends up at #2.

Either way, people claiming we should trade Kyrie would be the worst possible move to do.

We are going for the final piece this offseason in AD, we need to stick this out and see how the draft lottery goes.

I know you’ve said that Durant is likely to go to the Knicks but I wonder the chances of Golden State retaining him? Because if they do... that seriously scuttles the Knicks plans.

They need EVERY domino to fall their way.... HUGE chance it doesn’t break for them.

The problem is... don't you think the Knicks moving Porzingis so quickly, out of nowhere, doesn't mean they have a guarantee (or at least a very strong indication) that some top free agent (or two) are going there? I mean, it's just strange. I know the Knicks are usually dumb, but even they couldn't be dumb enough to give Porzingis up like that for nothing.

[FutureIsGreen]

Same argument as to why Reddish is a better option as some believe. He shoots deep 3s too, he is more NBA ready out if the gate. Zion may take more time, like Brown did.

[Captain_Caveman]

Exactly. Development is not their best quality. Tatum having 2 years of development with Stevens is a way better option.

Pretty positive that Zion would put them in the mix for AD. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd pick as well.

Would they do AD before a commitment from KD or Kyrie????

They would know, lol.

[CelticsLV]

Insider dude thinks 70% Celtics, 29% Knicks, 1% field. Speculates that Barrett as valuable as Tatum, and that Knicks can still beat us with #2 pick, but toast if picks comes in 4 or later.

I kind of agree.

I have no idea why so many people think otherwise. Hell, even a top-3 pick is uber-valuable.

Depends on how you feel about this draft, but I think like me you've heard almost everyone view this year as a 2 player draft.

The value of that pick plummets otherise. And it isn't like we won't have a roughly #14 overall pick from the Kings available. (plus our own late first. Hopefully a Clippers one too but who knows).

But outside of a top 2 pick you have to assume even the Pelicans front office would prefer Tatum over a #3.

No, it depends on how Pelicans management feels about this draft.

[Captain_Caveman]

So question, would you trade Tatum for any of the new class high picks? Does Zion have a higher ceiling than Tatum?

That's not really the question, though. It's more about which asset as a centerpiece fits in the whole with the rest of the offer and what NO would try to do with them.

No it's about trade value. Why target an unproven commodity? Tatum and Zion are wings. Both bring the same game, only Tatum can shoot outside so that makes him more valuable.

Just don't agree with any of this. Zion would be a hugely valuable asset for them. He would also allow them to tank for 1-2 years, unlike our offer.

[Captain_Caveman]

Insider dude thinks 70% Celtics, 29% Knicks, 1% field. Speculates that Barrett as valuable as Tatum, and that Knicks can still beat us with #2 pick, but toast if picks comes in 4 or later.

I kind of agree.

Depends on what the Pels think of Barrett or Morant because other than that, the Knicks have zilch

Top 5 pick, Knox, Ntilikina, DSJ, Mitchell, and both Mavs 1st rounders is a solid offer if the pick comes in 2nd or 3rd, and probably unbeatable if it comes in #1.

[The Corey's]

Kings pick jumps to 2 and let's end this. Thatd be sweet.

[FutureIsGreen]

That's not really the question, though. It's more about which asset as a centerpiece fits in the whole with the rest of the offer and what NO would try to do with them.

No it's about trade value. Why target an unproven commodity? Tatum and Zion are wings. Both bring the same game, only Tatum can shoot outside so that makes him more valuable.

Just don't agree with any of this. Zion would be a hugely valuable asset for them. He would also allow them to tank for 1-2 years, unlike our offer.

That's a valid point, but I'd take the ECF starter any day. Our offer gives them a playoff starting line up with picks already. Why keep tanking? I lose Davis, I wanna move on as quick as possible so we get over it. Selling tickets is usually a good plan to make money. Tanking makes no sense, unless of course you wanna move your franchise.

[Homerclease]

Insider dude thinks 70% Celtics, 29% Knicks, 1% field. Speculates that Barrett as valuable as Tatum, and that Knicks can still beat us with #2 pick, but toast if picks comes in 4 or later.

I kind of agree.

Depends on what the Pels think of Barrett or Morant because other than that, the Knicks have zilch

Top 5 pick, Knox, Ntilikina, DSJ, Mitchell, and both Mavs 1st rounders is a solid offer if the pick comes in 2nd or 3rd, and probably unbeatable if it comes in #1.

That’s worse than what the Lakers can offer outside of the pick

[FutureIsGreen]

Mavs picks are top 10 protected so in the neighborhood of the Kings pick and worse than the Memphis picks value.