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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#361 » by thelarrybirdx » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:23 pm

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Homerclease wrote:Depends on what the Pels think of Barrett or Morant because other than that, the Knicks have zilch


Top 5 pick, Knox, Ntilikina, DSJ, Mitchell, and both Mavs 1st rounders is a solid offer if the pick comes in 2nd or 3rd, and probably unbeatable if it comes in #1.

That’s worse than what the Lakers can offer outside of the pick


Well good thing the pick is why the Pelicans would do the trade
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#362 » by FutureIsGreen » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:36 pm

I would not even mind if the Knicks won the trade war, if they have no picks AD and what? They will be a brand new Pelicans. No depth at all. We beat them down with that depth chart. Kyrie will not join AD with what's left there. I'll laugh as I watch that happen to Davis.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#363 » by reload141 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:37 pm

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Pretty positive that Zion would put them in the mix for AD. Maybe the 2nd or 3rd pick as well.


Curious if Knicks land at #1 and the act of god happens and Sac ends up at #2.

Either way, people claiming we should trade Kyrie would be the worst possible move to do.

We are going for the final piece this offseason in AD, we need to stick this out and see how the draft lottery goes.

I know you’ve said that Durant is likely to go to the Knicks but I wonder the chances of Golden State retaining him? Because if they do... that seriously scuttles the Knicks plans.

They need EVERY domino to fall their way.... HUGE chance it doesn’t break for them.

The problem is... don't you think the Knicks moving Porzingis so quickly, out of nowhere, doesn't mean they have a guarantee (or at least a very strong indication) that some top free agent (or two) are going there? I mean, it's just strange. I know the Knicks are usually dumb, but even they couldn't be dumb enough to give Porzingis up like that for nothing.


Not really.

I mean, Hardaway and Lee contracts are bad anyway (not really bad but still) so clearing them is a good thing for the Knicks and helps them tank anyway.

As far as moving Porzingis that’s an extremely smart move.

There has been tension between both parties for a while now and the WORST thing they could do (which they would’ve had to do) is maxing him without seeing him play.

This is a 7”3 guy who hasn’t exactly been perfectly healthy coming off an ACL.

Yeah he COULD come back really good but this essentially shifts that risk onto another franchise now.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#364 » by Captain_Caveman » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:38 pm

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Homerclease wrote:Depends on what the Pels think of Barrett or Morant because other than that, the Knicks have zilch


Top 5 pick, Knox, Ntilikina, DSJ, Mitchell, and both Mavs 1st rounders is a solid offer if the pick comes in 2nd or 3rd, and probably unbeatable if it comes in #1.

That’s worse than what the Lakers can offer outside of the pick


That's like saying Pels don't have a lot of good assets outside of AD.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#365 » by Captain_Caveman » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:39 pm

FutureIsGreen wrote:I would not even mind if the Knicks won the trade war, if they have no picks AD and what? They will be a brand new Pelicans. No depth at all. We beat them down with that depth chart. Kyrie will not join AD with what's left there. I'll laugh as I watch that happen to Davis.


KD and Kyrie will both sign there in that scenario, IMO.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#366 » by Taget » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:39 pm

Bohemian wrote:I need a trade or some good rumors. I am tired of the negativity


Good rumor. Well I don't have one. But I can make one up. After all that is how all good rumors start. Particularly at ESPN. Multiple sauce cans have confirmed that Detroit is trading Blake Griffin for Gordon Hayward. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ycnas5pg

When asked about this rumor Gordon told me, "Please get the hell out of my house before I call the cops." Blake just passed me the ball.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#367 » by Captain_Caveman » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:40 pm

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Curious if Knicks land at #1 and the act of god happens and Sac ends up at #2.

Either way, people claiming we should trade Kyrie would be the worst possible move to do.

We are going for the final piece this offseason in AD, we need to stick this out and see how the draft lottery goes.

I know you’ve said that Durant is likely to go to the Knicks but I wonder the chances of Golden State retaining him? Because if they do... that seriously scuttles the Knicks plans.

They need EVERY domino to fall their way.... HUGE chance it doesn’t break for them.

The problem is... don't you think the Knicks moving Porzingis so quickly, out of nowhere, doesn't mean they have a guarantee (or at least a very strong indication) that some top free agent (or two) are going there? I mean, it's just strange. I know the Knicks are usually dumb, but even they couldn't be dumb enough to give Porzingis up like that for nothing.


Not really.

I mean, Hardaway and Lee contracts are bad anyway (not really bad but still) so clearing them is a good thing for the Knicks and helps them tank anyway.

As far as moving Porzingis that’s an extremely smart move.

There has been tension between both parties for a while now and the WORST thing they could do (which they would’ve had to do) is maxing him without seeing him play.

This is a 7”3 guy who hasn’t exactly been perfectly healthy coming off an ACL.

Yeah he COULD come back really good but this essentially shifts that risk onto another franchise now.


They likely have KD already.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#368 » by JaMarco » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:43 pm

Why does Durant want to go to the Knicks?
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#369 » by FutureIsGreen » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:44 pm

If they stand pat, 2 Max guys show up as there is a future their. Give everything away, no one joins Davis. Just like what happened when Melo went there. Love the Knicks, what a great rival to have.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#370 » by reload141 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:45 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
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CSL_1904 wrote:The problem is... don't you think the Knicks moving Porzingis so quickly, out of nowhere, doesn't mean they have a guarantee (or at least a very strong indication) that some top free agent (or two) are going there? I mean, it's just strange. I know the Knicks are usually dumb, but even they couldn't be dumb enough to give Porzingis up like that for nothing.


Not really.

I mean, Hardaway and Lee contracts are bad anyway (not really bad but still) so clearing them is a good thing for the Knicks and helps them tank anyway.

As far as moving Porzingis that’s an extremely smart move.

There has been tension between both parties for a while now and the WORST thing they could do (which they would’ve had to do) is maxing him without seeing him play.

This is a 7”3 guy who hasn’t exactly been perfectly healthy coming off an ACL.

Yeah he COULD come back really good but this essentially shifts that risk onto another franchise now.


They likely have KD already.


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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#371 » by FutureIsGreen » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:51 pm

Durant suits the Knicks. They are perfect for one another. Hate em both.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#372 » by Captain_Caveman » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:52 pm

reload141 wrote:
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Not really.

I mean, Hardaway and Lee contracts are bad anyway (not really bad but still) so clearing them is a good thing for the Knicks and helps them tank anyway.

As far as moving Porzingis that’s an extremely smart move.

There has been tension between both parties for a while now and the WORST thing they could do (which they would’ve had to do) is maxing him without seeing him play.

This is a 7”3 guy who hasn’t exactly been perfectly healthy coming off an ACL.

Yeah he COULD come back really good but this essentially shifts that risk onto another franchise now.


They likely have KD already.


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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#373 » by CSL_1904 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:53 pm

I think they have KD and another guy, cause KD ain't going there alone.

My feeling tells me KD and Kyrie to NY, Kawhi and Butler to the Clippers, Klay stays in Golden State, AD goes to NY or Lakers. If the Lakers strike out on AD, they go after Lillard.

I'm intrigued to see where Boogie goes. Nets? Clippers if Butler decides to take the money in Philly?
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#374 » by FutureIsGreen » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:54 pm

Durant and Cousins to the Knicks with what they have now...I fear that a bit. Way better off than Davis and leftovers.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#375 » by Edug27 » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:56 pm

Captain_Caveman wrote:
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CSL_1904 wrote:The problem is... don't you think the Knicks moving Porzingis so quickly, out of nowhere, doesn't mean they have a guarantee (or at least a very strong indication) that some top free agent (or two) are going there? I mean, it's just strange. I know the Knicks are usually dumb, but even they couldn't be dumb enough to give Porzingis up like that for nothing.


Not really.

I mean, Hardaway and Lee contracts are bad anyway (not really bad but still) so clearing them is a good thing for the Knicks and helps them tank anyway.

As far as moving Porzingis that’s an extremely smart move.

There has been tension between both parties for a while now and the WORST thing they could do (which they would’ve had to do) is maxing him without seeing him play.

This is a 7”3 guy who hasn’t exactly been perfectly healthy coming off an ACL.

Yeah he COULD come back really good but this essentially shifts that risk onto another franchise now.


They likely have KD already.


Trying to figure out why KD would want to go to NY? GS is opening the new arena. The NY media will destroy him. It’ll be more pressure to prove he can win without
a super team. Cali weather to NY weather. Take less money. Idk I get it’s a big market and all.. but I just don’t see the appeal.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#376 » by FutureIsGreen » Sat Feb 2, 2019 11:59 pm

This is the Knicks tho. Probably end up with Griffin and McCollum or something like that.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#377 » by Fencer reregistered » Sun Feb 3, 2019 12:00 am

JaMarco wrote:Why does Durant want to go to the Knicks?


It makes no sense unless a major factor is that he views NYC as a city he wants to be a prominent person in.

He's on record as liking the tech community of SF, but surely he's most interested in the kinds of business where NYC is also very strong.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#378 » by CSL_1904 » Sun Feb 3, 2019 12:01 am

Edug27 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
reload141 wrote:
Not really.

I mean, Hardaway and Lee contracts are bad anyway (not really bad but still) so clearing them is a good thing for the Knicks and helps them tank anyway.

As far as moving Porzingis that’s an extremely smart move.

There has been tension between both parties for a while now and the WORST thing they could do (which they would’ve had to do) is maxing him without seeing him play.

This is a 7”3 guy who hasn’t exactly been perfectly healthy coming off an ACL.

Yeah he COULD come back really good but this essentially shifts that risk onto another franchise now.


They likely have KD already.


Trying to figure out why KD would want to go to NY? GS is opening the new arena. The NY media will destroy him. It’ll be more pressure to prove he can win without
a super team. Cali weather to NY weather. Take less money. Idk I get it’s a big market and all.. but I just don’t see the appeal.

To prove he can win outside of Golden State? I mean, he would have a chance. They could even form a superteam in NY, but even if it's just him and KD, that's good enough to have a real chance, in part because Golden State would be a lot more beatablle with just the original big3 without the roster depth they had before KD arrived.

If he can win a title in NY it would take is legacy to another level. It's the biggest market in the country.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#379 » by celticfan42487 » Sun Feb 3, 2019 12:04 am

reload141 wrote:
CSL_1904 wrote:
reload141 wrote:
Curious if Knicks land at #1 and the act of god happens and Sac ends up at #2.

Either way, people claiming we should trade Kyrie would be the worst possible move to do.

We are going for the final piece this offseason in AD, we need to stick this out and see how the draft lottery goes.

I know you’ve said that Durant is likely to go to the Knicks but I wonder the chances of Golden State retaining him? Because if they do... that seriously scuttles the Knicks plans.

They need EVERY domino to fall their way.... HUGE chance it doesn’t break for them.

The problem is... don't you think the Knicks moving Porzingis so quickly, out of nowhere, doesn't mean they have a guarantee (or at least a very strong indication) that some top free agent (or two) are going there? I mean, it's just strange. I know the Knicks are usually dumb, but even they couldn't be dumb enough to give Porzingis up like that for nothing.


Not really.

I mean, Hardaway and Lee contracts are bad anyway (not really bad but still) so clearing them is a good thing for the Knicks and helps them tank anyway.

As far as moving Porzingis that’s an extremely smart move.

There has been tension between both parties for a while now and the WORST thing they could do (which they would’ve had to do) is maxing him without seeing him play.

This is a 7”3 guy who hasn’t exactly been perfectly healthy coming off an ACL.

Yeah he COULD come back really good but this essentially shifts that risk onto another franchise now.


Exactly.

"so quickly, out of nowhere". Umm, no that's just going by the Woj tweets. NY and Zingz drama has been going on for years. And yes we heard about it being possible right now quickly, but it's likely the Knicks made that decision at least during the summer that they will trade him by the trade deadline no matter what and move on.

and the Mavs just had an offer that met their goals and they wanted to get that done quietly without drama and controversy from the media.

Impressive job by their management to keep the ship tight without leaks.
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Re: Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3 

Post#380 » by celticfan42487 » Sun Feb 3, 2019 12:07 am

CSL_1904 wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:
They likely have KD already.


Trying to figure out why KD would want to go to NY? GS is opening the new arena. The NY media will destroy him. It’ll be more pressure to prove he can win without
a super team. Cali weather to NY weather. Take less money. Idk I get it’s a big market and all.. but I just don’t see the appeal.

To prove he can win outside of Golden State? I mean, he would have a chance. They could even form a superteam in NY, but even if it's just him and KD, that's good enough to have a real chance, in part because Golden State would be a lot more beatablle with just the original big3 without the roster depth they had before KD arrived.

If he can win a title in NY it would take is legacy to another level. It's the biggest market in the country.



That sounds like LeBron at best who may do that.

KD is a person who wants to be given a ring and never have to put effort in it.

Doubt he'd want to be the man anywhere or have the burden of speaking to the media. Hell he's emotionally shattered just using twitter while being on the Warriors.

I could see him going to the Lakers to be LeBron's butler, or staying in GS and hiding behind Curry. But I can't see him ever trying again in his career or going somehwere where he's put in the spotlight as the main person for it's failure or success.
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