Is Lowry purposely playing bad/being fat to avoid being traded?!

[C_Money]

Can we stop with the "fat" thing....!? its childish and embarrassing.

He kinda is tho. He literally can’t drive to the basket anymore.

[VancouverRaps]

Was having a conversation with a friend an hour ago about the Raps trade speculation and recent struggles.

This dude went full tin foil hat on my ass.

He said that he looked it up and the Raps went on a 5-10 or 6-11 slide(I forgot the exact record) in 2017 before Masai traded for Ibaka and Tucker.

So his theory is that Lowry got pissed that his boy Butler ended up in Philly instead of TO and now he’s struggling on purpose before the TDL to put pressure on Masai to improve the roster to win now.

Don’t worry, I’m not going to get him to sign up for realgm lol

[Clay Davis]

I guarantee he's in better shape than 99.999% of the people who call him 'fat'.

[Throwback24]

He's just old, fat, and broken down. He's finished as a productive, high usage player.

this simple

[Son Goku 25]

Lowry is who he is

[kj_]

I swear this guy is purposely playing bad to avoid being traded. We know his family is settled here at the moment and he would hate to be traded mid season. I would not be shocked at all if he starts getting in better shape and starts playing better after the trade deadline. I mean at this point its all we can hope for because his shot falling off a cliff and him being fat has been an anchor on his trade value. He is definitely not playing like an all star.

Thoughts?

You totally nailed it! I can’t believe I didn’t see this earlier. It was right there in front of me the whole time.


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[howlin mad axer]

He started the season receiving high praise, averaging 10apg and all, his value will rise again. I don't think I have observed a more topsy turvy valuation of a player than with Lowry. Over the course of a season Lowry's valuation changes regularly. He is an eternal under dog.

[Klayforspicy]

Lowry has somehow been living off regular season heroics on this board since 2015, criticism gets suppressed like he won us a title or something but he was right there with Casey and DD when Raps were swept a handful of times.

Now hes not even good in the regular season but people still won’t drop the act.
Its hard to stomach watching this team with him still in a major role, regardless of W L.

[Yogatti]

Lowry has somehow been living off regular season heroics on this board since 2015, criticism gets suppressed like he won us a title or something but he was right there with Casey and DD when Raps were swept a handful of times.

Now hes not even good in the regular season but people still won’t drop the act.
Its hard to stomach watching this team with him still in a major role, regardless of W L.

exactly

I don't understand how can anyone be a fan of Kyle Lowry and make so many excuses for him whenever he sh*ts the bed.

Saying he's the "heart and soul of this team" the "Sole engine on this team" just makes him look more like a joke because this is a team that got swept 3 times.

[RaptorsNorth]

Lowry has somehow been living off regular season heroics on this board since 2015, criticism gets suppressed like he won us a title or something but he was right there with Casey and DD when Raps were swept a handful of times.

Now hes not even good in the regular season but people still won’t drop the act.
Its hard to stomach watching this team with him still in a major role, regardless of W L.

Facts. If lowry was playing in his home town of Philly, NY, LA, or Boston he would have already been called out by their fan base years ago. Lowry has had 1 decent showing in the playoffs since 2015, and it was in the first series with the cavs. Other than that he's been almost irrelevant in playoffs. Norm powell as a 2nd round pick has had a bigger impact in his playoff career than lowry. Now that he's not even good in the regular season anymore he's stealing a living as a max player. I still don't know how anybody in their right state of mind rates lowry in the playoffs.

[Patman]

Can we stop with the "fat" thing....!? its childish and embarrassing.

He kinda is tho. He literally can’t drive to the basket anymore.

It's not because he's fat. It's because he's lost a step. If you don't have explosiveness, you're gonna have a hard time getting to the basket no matter how skinny you are.

[Patman]

Lowry has somehow been living off regular season heroics on this board since 2015, criticism gets suppressed like he won us a title or something but he was right there with Casey and DD when Raps were swept a handful of times.

Now hes not even good in the regular season but people still won’t drop the act.
Its hard to stomach watching this team with him still in a major role, regardless of W L.

Facts. If lowry was playing in his home town of Philly, NY, LA, or Boston he would have already been called out by their fan base years ago. Lowry has had 1 decent showing in the playoffs since 2015, and it was in the first series with the cavs. Other than that he's been almost irrelevant in playoffs. Norm powell as a 2nd round pick has had a bigger impact in his playoff career than lowry. Now that he's not even good in the regular season anymore he's stealing a living as a max player. I still don't know how anybody in their right state of mind rates lowry in the playoffs.

Yeah, that's false. Norm's contributions are more noticeable because he's a role player. This is like when VC struggled in 2 straight 1st round matchups against the Knicks (he had his coming out party vs. AI's Sixers). Some people said T-Mac made a bigger contribution than Vince in 2000, and JYD/Alvin in 2001. That's not true. Vince was still our best players in both of those Knicks series. He just didn't play as well relative to his regular season stats.

[FluLikeSymptoms]

He’s trying to get his $200K bonus by playing 65 games and making the all-star team, even though he’s not right physically. You know he’s going to sit for a few weeks after the game.

[Gold Dragon]

He’s trying to get his $200K bonus by playing 65 games and making the all-star team, even though he’s not right physically. You know he’s going to sit for a few weeks after the game.

He has already made the all-star game. He doesn't need to play to get the bonus. The 65 game threshhold will be important for him to hit. I think all his bonuses are tied to that 65 game target. So far he has already missed 11 games this season so he only has 6 more he can miss or else he doesn't get his bonuses.

I think he will play in the all-star game and playing wont affect his back which looks like he has recovered pretty well from. He has had a few good shooting games and his speed looks like it is back to his pre-injury levels. He hasn't been moving like he has a back injury for a few games now.

His recent run of bad turnover and shooting nights I believe are related to a starting lineup that is currently out of sync with each other. Kyle, Kawhi and Ibaka look like they are often working off of different playbooks. I'm not sure if Nurse is trying to implement some new wrinkles or more structure to his free-flowing playbook but the starting lineup is just not working as a unit, in contrast to how it was even at the beginning of this year.

I hope it gets ironed out over the next few games or at the least over the all-star break.

[RaptorsNorth]

Lowry has somehow been living off regular season heroics on this board since 2015, criticism gets suppressed like he won us a title or something but he was right there with Casey and DD when Raps were swept a handful of times.

Now hes not even good in the regular season but people still won’t drop the act.
Its hard to stomach watching this team with him still in a major role, regardless of W L.

Facts. If lowry was playing in his home town of Philly, NY, LA, or Boston he would have already been called out by their fan base years ago. Lowry has had 1 decent showing in the playoffs since 2015, and it was in the first series with the cavs. Other than that he's been almost irrelevant in playoffs. Norm powell as a 2nd round pick has had a bigger impact in his playoff career than lowry. Now that he's not even good in the regular season anymore he's stealing a living as a max player. I still don't know how anybody in their right state of mind rates lowry in the playoffs.

Yeah, that's false. Norm's contributions are more noticeable because he's a role player. This is like when VC struggled in 2 straight 1st round matchups against the Knicks (he had his coming out party vs. AI's Sixers). Some people said T-Mac made a bigger contribution than Vince in 2000, and JYD/Alvin in 2001. That's not true. Vince was still our best players in both of those Knicks series. He just didn't play as well relative to his regular season stats.

Role player or not the fact most people remember guys like norm and JV producing in the playoffs, and not lowry says a lot. There's no way you can tell me lowry plays up to the standard thats expected of him in the playoffs. Hell he's not even playing up to his typical, regular season, standards now. He's been a regular season player and now that he's not even that anymore, he's just a regular guy in the league thats grossly overpaid. Like I've said he's stealing a living as a max player. The guy is averaging under 10 points on the season smh What kind of max money player is that. The only thing carrying lowry right now is the fact he's a high IQ player that reads the game very well. Other than that he's pretty much meh, and not someone you can put your faith in when the chips are down. Don't even get me started on the fact he's out of shape and can hardly turn the corner on his man. At least demar had a few big playoff games here. The game can't be said about lowry.

These guys are lucky they don't check body fat in the NBA like they do in European football, or else he wouldn't even be on bench. Those guys don't care if you're a star or not. If you're out of shape and can't perform, you don't play, you don't get named to squad, and that means you don't sit on the bench with the team. Some teams will go as far as having you train by himself until you get into shape. This is why I respect what the Miami heat are doing to keep their players in shape. How long has lowry been here ? How many seasons has he been over weight , now how many season has he been in shape ? That's ridiculous that nobody tells him about it. The raptors need a respected, hard nose coach. Not these guys that allow players like lowry to show up in that state smh He would never do that playing for the heat. The season after he gets his max contract he shows up out of shape smh

[rapsdontlie]

I was defending Lowry before, but now I believe that the guy just doesn't care. It's just that simple.

We all know how he feels about Masai. Now you have all these trade rumours going around again. Danny Green talked about the atmosphere in the locker room. Lowry just checked out.

[Patman]

Facts. If lowry was playing in his home town of Philly, NY, LA, or Boston he would have already been called out by their fan base years ago. Lowry has had 1 decent showing in the playoffs since 2015, and it was in the first series with the cavs. Other than that he's been almost irrelevant in playoffs. Norm powell as a 2nd round pick has had a bigger impact in his playoff career than lowry. Now that he's not even good in the regular season anymore he's stealing a living as a max player. I still don't know how anybody in their right state of mind rates lowry in the playoffs.

Yeah, that's false. Norm's contributions are more noticeable because he's a role player. This is like when VC struggled in 2 straight 1st round matchups against the Knicks (he had his coming out party vs. AI's Sixers). Some people said T-Mac made a bigger contribution than Vince in 2000, and JYD/Alvin in 2001. That's not true. Vince was still our best players in both of those Knicks series. He just didn't play as well relative to his regular season stats.

Role player or not the fact most people remember guys like norm and JV producing in the playoffs, and not lowry says a lot. There's no way you can tell me lowry plays up to the standard thats expected of him in the playoffs. Hell he's not even playing up to his typical, regular season, standards now. He's been a regular season player and now that he's not even that anymore, he's just a regular guy in the league thats grossly overpaid. Like I've said he's stealing a living as a max player. The guy is averaging under 10 points on the season smh What kind of max money player is that. The only thing carrying lowry right now is the fact he's a high IQ player that reads the game very well. Other than that he's pretty much meh, and not someone you can put your faith in when the chips are down. Don't even get me started on the fact he's out of shape and can hardly turn the corner on his man. At least demar had a few big playoff games here. The game can't be said about lowry.

These guys are lucky they don't check body fat in the NBA like they do in European football, or else he wouldn't even be on bench. Those guys don't care if you're a star or not. If you're out of shape and can't perform, you don't play, you don't get named to squad, and that means you don't sit on the bench with the team. Some teams will go as far as having you train by himself until you get into shape. This is why I respect what the Miami heat are doing to keep their players in shape. How long has lowry been here ? How many seasons has he been over weight , now how many season has he been in shape ? That's ridiculous that nobody tells him about it. The raptors need a respected, hard nose coach. Not these guys that allow players like lowry to show up in that state smh He would never do that playing for the heat. The season after he gets his max contract he shows up out of shape smh

I agree with you that NBA players are spoiled compared to EU football players. The reason why most teams don't have things like body fat limit and curfews is that it won't attract players. Miami can do it because it's freaking Miami lol.