The case to trade Kawhi at the deadline and why we should be sellers

[Patman]

You don't trade Kawhi unless he demands it, especially if you've not even had him for less than a year. You do this, and every single agent blacklists Toronto. Trading DeMar was already questionable loyalty, but that was at least justifiable. Trading Kawhi now would be indefensible.

[McFurious1]

You don't trade Kawhi unless he demands it, especially if you've not even had him for less than a year. You do this, and every single agent blacklists Toronto. Trading DeMar was already questionable loyalty, but that was at least justifiable. Trading Kawhi now would be indefensible.

Getting assests and avoiding losing Kawhi for nothing is not indefensible.

[inonba]

What is a proper rebuild?

You can land the best top 5 picks in the last 5 years and your core would be Joel Embid, Karl-Anthony Towns, Ben Simmons, Jayson Tatum, and Luka Doncic, which would still be nowhere close to being a title contender even with some creative trades.

Trust the process is a myth in the modern NBA. What have the 76s done in their "proper rebuild"? Joel Embid, Jahlil Okafor, Ben Simmons, Nerlens Noel, Markelle Fultz? If Embid was healthy and the lottery balls didn't fall in 2016, that collection could have easily been Jabari Parker, Jahil Okafor, Brandon Ingram, Nerlens Noel, Markelle Fultz. 4/5 guys have no business being in the league. Think about that.

Reality is, draft class in recent years have been deep. You don't need top 5 anymore to find good players. Our team is proof of that.

[Patman]

You don't trade Kawhi unless he demands it, especially if you've not even had him for less than a year. You do this, and every single agent blacklists Toronto. Trading DeMar was already questionable loyalty, but that was at least justifiable. Trading Kawhi now would be indefensible.

Getting assests and avoiding losing Kawhi for nothing is not indefensible.

This isn't NBA2K. You trade away a star and a superstar in less than a year, and you can say goodbye to such players wanting to come here in the foreseeable future.

[DonMega]

We need to pick a direction and **** commit to it.

Either trade Kawhi and hit the reset button now or trade for a second option and go all in.

Yeah I'm tired of the Fools Gold era we need to go all in or do a proper rebuild

Feels like the fools gold era wont ever end. It's so damn tiring

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[DonMega]

Holy f*** were not trading Kawhi at the deadline, do you know how stupid that would be?

What's gonna be stupid is having him walk and getting nothing for him

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[McFurious1]

You don't trade Kawhi unless he demands it, especially if you've not even had him for less than a year. You do this, and every single agent blacklists Toronto. Trading DeMar was already questionable loyalty, but that was at least justifiable. Trading Kawhi now would be indefensible.

Getting assests and avoiding losing Kawhi for nothing is not indefensible.

This isn't NBA2K. You trade away a star and a superstar in less than a year, and you can say goodbye to such players wanting to come here in the foreseeable future.

Who's knocking on the door? I've been checking since 95 and no one is there.

[C_Money]

Holy f*** were not trading Kawhi at the deadline, do you know how stupid that would be?

What's gonna be stupid is having him walk and getting nothing for him

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Then we should have just kept Demar! Kawhi was brought here to win us a championship. There’s a zero percent chance he’s getting traded at the deadline.

[rudeman72]

You don't trade Kawhi unless he demands it, especially if you've not even had him for less than a year. You do this, and every single agent blacklists Toronto. Trading DeMar was already questionable loyalty, but that was at least justifiable. Trading Kawhi now would be indefensible.

Getting assests and avoiding losing Kawhi for nothing is not indefensible.

If NO can't even get a decent package for AD's 1.5 years because he's deemed LA bound, what kind of assets do you think TOR will realistically get for a half year rental that is deemed LA bound?

Are you ok with a return centered around Lonzo Ball? Probably more likely a package revolving around Josh Hart.

[Patman]

You don't trade Kawhi unless he demands it, especially if you've not even had him for less than a year. You do this, and every single agent blacklists Toronto. Trading DeMar was already questionable loyalty, but that was at least justifiable. Trading Kawhi now would be indefensible.

Getting assests and avoiding losing Kawhi for nothing is not indefensible.

If NO can't even get a decent package for AD's 1.5 years because he's deemed LA bound, what kind of assets do you think TOR will realistically get for a half year rental that is deemed LA bound?

Are you ok with a return centered around Lonzo Ball? Probably more likely a package revolving around Josh Hart.

From a purely basketball standpoint, if we knew Dolan was going to downgrade from clueless to insane, we probably could've gotten Zinger for Kawhi.

[OneTime86]

Trading your best player/mvp candidate when you're 2 games out of 1st in your conference seems insane, regardless of Kawhis situation.

[rudeman72]

Getting assests and avoiding losing Kawhi for nothing is not indefensible.

If NO can't even get a decent package for AD's 1.5 years because he's deemed LA bound, what kind of assets do you think TOR will realistically get for a half year rental that is deemed LA bound?

Are you ok with a return centered around Lonzo Ball? Probably more likely a package revolving around Josh Hart.

From a purely basketball standpoint, if we knew Dolan was going to downgrade from clueless to insane, we probably could've gotten Zinger for Kawhi.

So another 1 year rental coming off a serious injury that is significantly less talented/accomplished? That's not exactly a great best case scenario (assuming the other party went insane). Might as well just roll the dice and see what you get with Kawhi.

[GED Education]

Holy f*** were not trading Kawhi at the deadline, do you know how stupid that would be?

What's gonna be stupid is having him walk and getting nothing for him

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Then we should have just kept Demar! Kawhi was brought here to win us a championship. There’s a zero percent chance he’s getting traded at the deadline.

And zero percent chance we win a championship let alone get out of the 2nd round.

[Wasp]

Honestly, sometimes I'm not even sure our fanbase deserves a contender. One small stretch of adversity and people want to give up already? Trading Kawhi at this point would be insane. We still have pieces to make moves at the deadline, we still have as good a chance as any team to make it out of the East even if we stand pat, and we have no idea what happens this summer re: Kawhi's FA, other than the fact that if we trade him there's a 0% chance we sign him.

FFS, if he leaves we're going to be rebuilding anyway - why resign yourself to that fate before you absolutely have to?

[TheAlchemist]

You know when I created this thread, I expected some semblance of logic and coherence... Some understanding of this perspective.

We got beat by Houston, and some other pretty crappy teams.

The point is that it looks like Kawhi Leonard will not be signing with the Raptors. It's pretty evident to see from his non integration in our franchise at all.

He's been rumored to go to the Clippers. The Clippers front office have even bragging about it. And on top of that, not only did he buy a multimillion-dollar house that he can go and stay there when he has time off, you can tell by his on-court mannerisms he really doesn't want to intergrate. He lacks facilation and trust in his teammates.

The point of this thread was simple;

Going into the season, it was an all-or-nothing season.

We got our Superstar, unfortunately our secondaries , our star players aside from Kawhi, don't exist or suck.

So our all in season is bullsh**. The whole point of the season got sucked up by the current of Kyle Lowry.

And now, we really have the possibility of being second round fodder.

If we do have the option of getting some assets, we should and recoup. That's winning for the long term.

And the argument that nobody will sign with us if we trade Kawhi is something you really want to go by, then that logic would mean we had an equal chance of signing stars.

We didn't. And Hedo nor old man Hakim counts.

[Major Giz]

Players only care about 2 things

1. Money
2. Winning

100. Loyalty

[jimmy keys]

You don't trade Kawhi unless he demands it, especially if you've not even had him for less than a year. You do this, and every single agent blacklists Toronto. Trading DeMar was already questionable loyalty, but that was at least justifiable. Trading Kawhi now would be indefensible.

OP isn't bright enough to understand this or how life works in general.

[Metallikid]

Zero reason to trade him. It would make our franchise look terrible. Not to mention everyone seems to forget that if he does want to leave there's very good chance we're going to sign and trade him so we won't get nothing.

[Raptaz]

You know when I created this thread, I expected some semblance of logic and coherence... Some understanding of this perspective.

We got beat by Houston, and some other pretty crappy teams.

The point is that it looks like Kawhi Leonard will not be signing with the Raptors. It's pretty evident to see from his non integration in our franchise at all.

He's been rumored to go to the Clippers. The Clippers front office have even bragging about it. And on top of that, not only did he buy a multimillion-dollar house that he can go and stay there when he has time off, you can tell by his on-court mannerisms he really doesn't want to intergrate. He lacks facilation and trust in his teammates.

The point of this thread was simple;

Going into the season, it was an all-or-nothing season.

We got our Superstar, unfortunately our secondaries , our star players aside from Kawhi, don't exist or suck.

So our all in season is bullsh**. The whole point of the season got sucked up by the current of Kyle Lowry.

And now, we really have the possibility of being second round fodder.

If we do have the option of getting some assets, we should and recoup. That's winning for the long term.

And the argument that nobody will sign with us if we trade Kawhi is something you really want to go by, then that logic would mean we had an equal chance of signing stars.

We didn't. And Hedo nor old man Hakim counts.

lol so the drive and kick to siakam for a 3, or the two times he passed it to Fred for a 3, although he missed the first. Ill leave it at that.

[hankscorpioLA]

We need to pick a direction and **** commit to it.

Either trade Kawhi and hit the reset button now or trade for a second option and go all in.

Yeah I'm tired of the Fools Gold era we need to go all in or do a proper rebuild

Feels like the fools gold era wont ever end. It's so damn tiring

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