Regular Season Game 53: Brooklyn Nets (28-25) at Orlando Magic (21-31) - 7:00 PM ET

[MaxFischer]

as i said above (twice) why would you even care what i think ?
I find him underwhelming, challenged , limited prospect that fails on daily bases justfy his draft position and imo if re-draft happends today he would fall outside lottery.
If you don't think so, good, more power to you, enjoy him and his plays.

I don't care what you think at all, just trying to understand WHY you think the way you do. But you're right, to each his own.

[pepe1991]

as i said above (twice) why would you even care what i think ?
I find him underwhelming, challenged , limited prospect that fails on daily bases justfy his draft position and imo if re-draft happends today he would fall outside lottery.
If you don't think so, good, more power to you, enjoy him and his plays.

I don't care what you think at all, just trying to understand WHY you think the way you do. But you're right, to each his own.

Because i don't see anything special in player that gets all his work by being scrappy , annoying player.
Being big man version of Marcus Smart isn't that valuable to me.

Simple as that.

[BadHombre]

I still don't understand why so many of you really care why i like or don't like him.
I replyed to notion that him and Gordon are starting to compliment each other, and used same two games as counter argument, where they were both flat out terrible in terms of scoring/ efficiency.

Piss off.

Awww diddums.

[pepe1991]

I still don't understand why so many of you really care why i like or don't like him.
I replyed to notion that him and Gordon are starting to compliment each other, and used same two games as counter argument, where they were both flat out terrible in terms of scoring/ efficiency.

Piss off.

Awww diddums.

lol

anger issues much?

I don't really care about you, or your opinon, yet you reply on mine all the time. What makes you than ? Stan? Cute

Stan, Stan, son, listen, man, dad isn't mad

[BadHombre]

I still don't understand why so many of you really care why i like or don't like him.
I replyed to notion that him and Gordon are starting to compliment each other, and used same two games as counter argument, where they were both flat out terrible in terms of scoring/ efficiency.

Piss off.

Awww diddums.

lol

anger issues much?

I don't really care about you, or your opinon, yet you reply on mine all the time. What makes you than ? Stan? Cute

Stan, Stan, son, listen, man, dad isn't mad

You’re telling people to ‘piss off’ when they disagree with you and I’m the one with anger issues?

I think you need another nap, you’re talking nonsense again.

[pepe1991]

Awww diddums.

lol

anger issues much?

I don't really care about you, or your opinon, yet you reply on mine all the time. What makes you than ? Stan? Cute

Stan, Stan, son, listen, man, dad isn't mad

You’re telling people to ‘piss off’ when they disagree with you and I’m the one with anger issues?

I think you need another nap, you’re talking nonsense again.

No i told people who keep replying to tell me how they don't agree with me to piss off to avoid confrontations about opinions. You engage and start fights because people don't agree with you . Difference is clear.

Only things you post since you joined are nonsense and emotional reactions of angry teen.

[Bonafide89]

Back to back double doubles for Isaac..... And 2 wins.... Hope Steve points to it as a correlation....and Isaac makes it his new goal on a nightly basis! Lol

And-1

Gordon and Isaac are really starting to gel. Their offensive games are quite compatible.


..

lol

They combined for
9-25 FG (36% )
4-12 for 3 (33%)

and
8-21 (38%)
1-8 for 3

in last two games. That's everything but " compatiable" offense. Quite opposite actually. It's your wings shooting 5-20 for 3 over two games and 15-46 overall. Pretty terrible.

But it helps when you play :
Pacers- Oladipo, Evans, McDermott out
Nets- DInwiddie, Lavert, Crabb out

In games where in first Ross goes supernova and in second where Vuc scores 10 of team's 24 points in last quater and Isaac and Gordon combine for 0.

I don't care about stats. Isaac just looks like a much improved player. Every time someone takes it up against Isaac, he's a threat to block every shot. His shooting will improve. He hasn't even played a full 82 games yet.

Remember Paul George was barely a rotation player in his first season and gradually improved every year, similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

I am much more impressed by guys who show steady improvement every year than guys who plateau early.

Isaac looks tougher than before. He's not getting pushed around as much and he's much more aggressive.

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[pepe1991]

And-1

Gordon and Isaac are really starting to gel. Their offensive games are quite compatible.


..

lol

They combined for
9-25 FG (36% )
4-12 for 3 (33%)

and
8-21 (38%)
1-8 for 3

in last two games. That's everything but " compatiable" offense. Quite opposite actually. It's your wings shooting 5-20 for 3 over two games and 15-46 overall. Pretty terrible.

But it helps when you play :
Pacers- Oladipo, Evans, McDermott out
Nets- DInwiddie, Lavert, Crabb out

In games where in first Ross goes supernova and in second where Vuc scores 10 of team's 24 points in last quater and Isaac and Gordon combine for 0.

I don't care about stats. Isaac just looks like a much improved player. Every time someone takes it up against Isaac, he's a threat to block every shot. His shooting will improve. He hasn't even played a full 82 games yet.

Remember Paul George was barely a rotation player in his first season and gradually improved every year, similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

I am much more impressed by guys who show steady improvement every year than guys who plateau early.

Isaac looks tougher than before. He's not getting pushed around as much and he's much more aggressive.

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similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

you do relise that Gordon and Isaac don't belong in same universe with guys you mentioned ,right? It's like comparing Wiggins to Jordan.
Giannis being age Isaac is now was 17-8-4 player and already better than Gordon ever was.
Leonard won finals MVP at age of 22.
George at 21 had 12 ppg 44% FG, 38% for 3 season, next year, in third year, was allstar.

They simply are not realistic comparisons for Magic wing players.

[Bonafide89]

lol

They combined for
9-25 FG (36% )
4-12 for 3 (33%)

and
8-21 (38%)
1-8 for 3

in last two games. That's everything but " compatiable" offense. Quite opposite actually. It's your wings shooting 5-20 for 3 over two games and 15-46 overall. Pretty terrible.

But it helps when you play :
Pacers- Oladipo, Evans, McDermott out
Nets- DInwiddie, Lavert, Crabb out

In games where in first Ross goes supernova and in second where Vuc scores 10 of team's 24 points in last quater and Isaac and Gordon combine for 0.

I don't care about stats. Isaac just looks like a much improved player. Every time someone takes it up against Isaac, he's a threat to block every shot. His shooting will improve. He hasn't even played a full 82 games yet.

Remember Paul George was barely a rotation player in his first season and gradually improved every year, similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

I am much more impressed by guys who show steady improvement every year than guys who plateau early.

Isaac looks tougher than before. He's not getting pushed around as much and he's much more aggressive.

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similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

you do relise that Gordon and Isaac don't belong in same universe with guys you mentioned ,right? It's like comparing Wiggins to Jordan.

Completely missed my point, but glad you brought up Wiggins. He is one of those guys who 'plateaued' early. He averaged 17 his rookie year while AG averaged 5 in year one and 9 in year two.

Fast forward to today, and no way Wiggins goes ahead of AG in a redraft, since you like to bring up redrafts.

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[pepe1991]

I don't care about stats. Isaac just looks like a much improved player. Every time someone takes it up against Isaac, he's a threat to block every shot. His shooting will improve. He hasn't even played a full 82 games yet.

Remember Paul George was barely a rotation player in his first season and gradually improved every year, similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

I am much more impressed by guys who show steady improvement every year than guys who plateau early.

Isaac looks tougher than before. He's not getting pushed around as much and he's much more aggressive.

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similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

you do relise that Gordon and Isaac don't belong in same universe with guys you mentioned ,right? It's like comparing Wiggins to Jordan.

Completely missed my point, but glad you brought up Wiggins. He is one of those guys who 'plateaued' early. He averaged 17 his rookie year while AG averaged 5 in year one and 9 in year two.

Fast forward to today, and no way Wiggins goes ahead of AG in a redraft, since you like to bring up redrafts.

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Wiggins never platoed, his BBIQ never developed passed 5th grade of primary school. Just fundamentally dumb player.

I got your point with stady improvment and development ,but in both cases Isaac really didn't improve much from rookie year and Gordon is kind a copy past same player for 2 years now. His shooting is up and down, his passing comes and goes, his inability to play as SF is still there... Kind a expected for role players. One game looks good , one game looks bad.

[Bonafide89]

lol

They combined for
9-25 FG (36% )
4-12 for 3 (33%)

and
8-21 (38%)
1-8 for 3

in last two games. That's everything but " compatiable" offense. Quite opposite actually. It's your wings shooting 5-20 for 3 over two games and 15-46 overall. Pretty terrible.

But it helps when you play :
Pacers- Oladipo, Evans, McDermott out
Nets- DInwiddie, Lavert, Crabb out

In games where in first Ross goes supernova and in second where Vuc scores 10 of team's 24 points in last quater and Isaac and Gordon combine for 0.

I don't care about stats. Isaac just looks like a much improved player. Every time someone takes it up against Isaac, he's a threat to block every shot. His shooting will improve. He hasn't even played a full 82 games yet.

Remember Paul George was barely a rotation player in his first season and gradually improved every year, similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

I am much more impressed by guys who show steady improvement every year than guys who plateau early.

Isaac looks tougher than before. He's not getting pushed around as much and he's much more aggressive.

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similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

you do relise that Gordon and Isaac don't belong in same universe with guys you mentioned ,right? It's like comparing Wiggins to Jordan.
Giannis being age Isaac is now was 17-8-4 player and already better than Gordon ever was.
Leonard won finals MVP at age of 22.
George at 21 had 12 ppg 44% FG, 38% for 3 season, next year, in third year, was allstar.

They simply are not realistic comparisons for Magic wing players.

The Bucks broadcaster during one of the Bucks Magic games this year mentioned Isaac as being the protege to Giannis. I'd think someone who watches Giannis every game has some sort of credibility. He mentioned Giannis and Isaac in the same sentence, lol

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[pepe1991]

I don't care about stats. Isaac just looks like a much improved player. Every time someone takes it up against Isaac, he's a threat to block every shot. His shooting will improve. He hasn't even played a full 82 games yet.

Remember Paul George was barely a rotation player in his first season and gradually improved every year, similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

I am much more impressed by guys who show steady improvement every year than guys who plateau early.

Isaac looks tougher than before. He's not getting pushed around as much and he's much more aggressive.

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similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

you do relise that Gordon and Isaac don't belong in same universe with guys you mentioned ,right? It's like comparing Wiggins to Jordan.
Giannis being age Isaac is now was 17-8-4 player and already better than Gordon ever was.
Leonard won finals MVP at age of 22.
George at 21 had 12 ppg 44% FG, 38% for 3 season, next year, in third year, was allstar.

They simply are not realistic comparisons for Magic wing players.

The Bucks broadcaster during one of the Bucks Magic games this year mentioned Isaac as being the protege to Giannis. I'd think someone who watches Giannis every game has some sort of credibility. He mentioned Giannis and Isaac in the same sentence, lol

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Giannis is only 3 years older than Isaac and 3 times allstar. That's all you need to know about comparison.
I had honor to watch him play in one youth team for Greece ( having no clue who he was at times) , guy was playing playmaker being 6'9 at times ,with that awkward mega step that needs like 4 steps to run from half court into a paint. Just crazy athletics with incredible ballhandling for size.

isaac is only tall and long, but that's where any comparison stops.

[Optimus_Steel]

I don't care about stats. Isaac just looks like a much improved player. Every time someone takes it up against Isaac, he's a threat to block every shot. His shooting will improve. He hasn't even played a full 82 games yet.

Remember Paul George was barely a rotation player in his first season and gradually improved every year, similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

I am much more impressed by guys who show steady improvement every year than guys who plateau early.

Isaac looks tougher than before. He's not getting pushed around as much and he's much more aggressive.

Sent from my SM-G930V using RealGM mobile app

similar to Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, Giannis, and our very own AG.

you do relise that Gordon and Isaac don't belong in same universe with guys you mentioned ,right? It's like comparing Wiggins to Jordan.
Giannis being age Isaac is now was 17-8-4 player and already better than Gordon ever was.
Leonard won finals MVP at age of 22.
George at 21 had 12 ppg 44% FG, 38% for 3 season, next year, in third year, was allstar.

They simply are not realistic comparisons for Magic wing players.

The Bucks broadcaster during one of the Bucks Magic games this year mentioned Isaac as being the protege to Giannis. I'd think someone who watches Giannis every game has some sort of credibility. He mentioned Giannis and Isaac in the same sentence, lol

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Most have been 2 for 1 tequilas that night....


Similar size, that's pretty much where the comparison ends. Issac is extremely limited skill wise. Giannis grew up playing PG.

[KillMonger]

you do relise that Gordon and Isaac don't belong in same universe with guys you mentioned ,right? It's like comparing Wiggins to Jordan.
Giannis being age Isaac is now was 17-8-4 player and already better than Gordon ever was.
Leonard won finals MVP at age of 22.
George at 21 had 12 ppg 44% FG, 38% for 3 season, next year, in third year, was allstar.

They simply are not realistic comparisons for Magic wing players.

The Bucks broadcaster during one of the Bucks Magic games this year mentioned Isaac as being the protege to Giannis. I'd think someone who watches Giannis every game has some sort of credibility. He mentioned Giannis and Isaac in the same sentence, lol

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Most have been 2 for 1 tequilas that night....


Similar size, that's pretty much where the comparison ends. Issac is extremely limited skill wise. Giannis grew up playing PG.

It might not show much but issac was point guard too until he had a crazy growth spurt

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[MagicStarwipe]

Why... do... people... take... comparisons... so... literally???

[SOUL]

Comparing Isaac to Giannis isn't realistic other than being long bodies and does a disservice to what Isaac can do well.

You're right pepe, it doesn't matter if you don't like the same players as I or others do. But it's just nice when someone can at least say something nice about players when they are playing well. What you're doing is the equivalent of somebody cleaning the whole house and you saying "BUT YOU MISSED A SPOT THERE" when you bring up the 3PT shooting and just say "you don't value the rest of his skillset". Yes, we can all see that area isn't coming along as quickly as every other area is for him, but you can't say he isn't improving the last few weeks and act like the FT% aren't encouraging for his shooting in the future.

I just don't get the rush to poo poo on a player's future when he clearly is improving (which we all preached patience and said he would), and it does seem like people here ACTIVELY root against some younger guys that don't immediately show offensive/allstar capabilities their first year because.. why?

[SOUL]

Why... do... people... take... comparisons... so... literally???

Yeah, it's still kinda **** one. "Protege" is a bad phrasing. But I mean, if he's watching tape of a player, I think Giannis would be a great guy to look at. Obviously doesn't mean Isaac is going to turn into a future HOF player like Giannis, but can see how he moves out there on the floor and try to work with his body type like that.