GT #52: Bucks @ Wizards - Sat - 2/2/19 - 7 PM

[nate33]

Seems to me the AD to DC trade should be Wall, Morris, and a couple firsts, unprotected.

That leaves a very solid, contending East team. They'd make the playoffs, EASILY.

The only hard part with that plan is convincing New Orleans.

[queridiculo]

Seems to me the AD to DC trade should be Wall, Morris, and a couple firsts, unprotected.

That leaves a very solid, contending East team. They'd make the playoffs, EASILY.

The only hard part with that plan is convincing New Orleans.

Now let's imagine Washington winning the lottery , do you make Zion the centerpiece of a trade to get AD here or do you keep the roster in-tact and add Zion?

[nate33]

Seems to me the AD to DC trade should be Wall, Morris, and a couple firsts, unprotected.

That leaves a very solid, contending East team. They'd make the playoffs, EASILY.

The only hard part with that plan is convincing New Orleans.

Now let's imagine Washington winning the lottery , do you make Zion the centerpiece of a trade to get AD here or do you keep the roster in-tact and add Zion?

I'd keep Zion unless Davis agreed to an extension.

If Davis agreed to an extension, I'd make the trade: Wall + Zion + Howard for Jrue + Davis. Then resign Sato, Bryant and Green

PG Jrue/Sato
SG Beal/Sato
SF Porter/Brown
PF Davis/Green
C Bryant/Mahinmi

That's a ridiculous lineup. Beal and Jrue taking turns running pick-and-roll with Davis and Bryant. Beal and Otto coming off screens. Sato, Otto, Green and Brown do all the little things. Davis and Bryant take turns at center, and they can play alongside each other because both can shoot threes. Everyone except Bryant is an above-average defender at their position. Everyone can shoot three's. Either Jrue or Beal can run isolation plays when the clock is winding down, just give the ball to whomever has the worse defender.

Capwise, it plays out nicely. They might be close to the luxtax in 2019-20 depending on the cost of Sato, Bryant and Green, but Mahinmi comes off the books after that, in time to pay for Davis' raise. Porter comes off the books in time for Brown to get resigned.

[Ruzious]

We have a 6% chance of winning the 1st pick. Hey, the 2 worst teams have only 14% chance each. 6% is enough reason to not fight for the 8th playoff spot. Zion is that good.

[payitforward]

Now let's imagine Washington winning the lottery , do you make Zion the centerpiece of a trade to get AD here or do you keep the roster in-tact and add Zion?

Neither.

If Zion is all that, then he'll be an incredible bargain his first few years in the NBA b/c of his rookie salary. There is no way you trade him.

But that doesn't mean you keep the roster intact. It's obvious that our salary load going forward is unmanageable, & that the salary we want to off-load is Wall's.

Moreover, if we did pick 1st & get Zion, it would give Ted the excuse he needs to deal his marquis marketing name -- Zion gives him a new one. It would also give him a new story -- the new generation of the Wizards.

[Ruzious]

Now let's imagine Washington winning the lottery , do you make Zion the centerpiece of a trade to get AD here or do you keep the roster in-tact and add Zion?

Neither.

If Zion is all that, then he'll be an incredible bargain his first few years in the NBA b/c of his rookie salary. There is no way you trade him.

But that doesn't mean you keep the roster intact. It's obvious that our salary load going forward is unmanageable, & that the salary we want to off-load is Wall's.

Moreover, if we did pick 1st & get Zion, it would give Ted the excuse he needs to deal his marquis marketing name -- Zion gives him a new one. It would also give him a new story -- the new generation of the Wizards.

Well, on the bolded part, you keep in mind that his market value is adjusted by the fact that he's an incredible bargain during his rookie contract. So, while you don't trade him unless you're given a tremendous deal that includes a top 5 player in the NBA, he's not untouchable.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

The only hard part with that plan is convincing New Orleans.

Now let's imagine Washington winning the lottery , do you make Zion the centerpiece of a trade to get AD here or do you keep the roster in-tact and add Zion?

I'd keep Zion unless Davis agreed to an extension.

If Davis agreed to an extension, I'd make the trade: Wall + Zion + Howard for Jrue + Davis. Then resign Sato, Bryant and Green

PG Jrue/Sato
SG Beal/Sato
SF Porter/Brown
PF Davis/Green
C Bryant/Mahinmi

That's a ridiculous lineup. Beal and Jrue taking turns running pick-and-roll with Davis and Bryant. Beal and Otto coming off screens. Sato, Otto, Green and Brown do all the little things. Davis and Bryant take turns at center, and they can play alongside each other because both can shoot threes. Everyone except Bryant is an above-average defender at their position. Everyone can shoot three's. Either Jrue or Beal can run isolation plays when the clock is winding down, just give the ball to whomever has the worse defender.

Capwise, it plays out nicely. They might be close to the luxtax in 2019-20 depending on the cost of Sato, Bryant and Green, but Mahinmi comes off the books after that, in time to pay for Davis' raise. Porter comes off the books in time for Brown to get resigned.

I'd keep Zion.

PERIOD

Him on a rookie deal is better than Davis. I'd rather have Zion than Davis. Butts in seats increases. Network prime time games increases. Free agents will to sign at minimum increases. Zion's a better Draymond Green.

No brainer as far as I'm concerned. Kid might be better than Lebron one day.

[Ruzious]

Now let's imagine Washington winning the lottery , do you make Zion the centerpiece of a trade to get AD here or do you keep the roster in-tact and add Zion?

I'd keep Zion unless Davis agreed to an extension.

If Davis agreed to an extension, I'd make the trade: Wall + Zion + Howard for Jrue + Davis. Then resign Sato, Bryant and Green

PG Jrue/Sato
SG Beal/Sato
SF Porter/Brown
PF Davis/Green
C Bryant/Mahinmi

That's a ridiculous lineup. Beal and Jrue taking turns running pick-and-roll with Davis and Bryant. Beal and Otto coming off screens. Sato, Otto, Green and Brown do all the little things. Davis and Bryant take turns at center, and they can play alongside each other because both can shoot threes. Everyone except Bryant is an above-average defender at their position. Everyone can shoot three's. Either Jrue or Beal can run isolation plays when the clock is winding down, just give the ball to whomever has the worse defender.

Capwise, it plays out nicely. They might be close to the luxtax in 2019-20 depending on the cost of Sato, Bryant and Green, but Mahinmi comes off the books after that, in time to pay for Davis' raise. Porter comes off the books in time for Brown to get resigned.

I'd keep Zion.

PERIOD

Him on a rookie deal is better than Davis. I'd rather have Zion than Davis. Butts in seats increases. Network prime time games increases. Free agents will to sign at minimum increases. Zion's a better Draymond Green.

No brainer as far as I'm concerned. Kid might be better than Lebron one day.

A better Draymond Green? You and Pif are having bad days.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

I'd keep Zion unless Davis agreed to an extension.

If Davis agreed to an extension, I'd make the trade: Wall + Zion + Howard for Jrue + Davis. Then resign Sato, Bryant and Green

PG Jrue/Sato
SG Beal/Sato
SF Porter/Brown
PF Davis/Green
C Bryant/Mahinmi

That's a ridiculous lineup. Beal and Jrue taking turns running pick-and-roll with Davis and Bryant. Beal and Otto coming off screens. Sato, Otto, Green and Brown do all the little things. Davis and Bryant take turns at center, and they can play alongside each other because both can shoot threes. Everyone except Bryant is an above-average defender at their position. Everyone can shoot three's. Either Jrue or Beal can run isolation plays when the clock is winding down, just give the ball to whomever has the worse defender.

Capwise, it plays out nicely. They might be close to the luxtax in 2019-20 depending on the cost of Sato, Bryant and Green, but Mahinmi comes off the books after that, in time to pay for Davis' raise. Porter comes off the books in time for Brown to get resigned.

I'd keep Zion.

PERIOD

Him on a rookie deal is better than Davis. I'd rather have Zion than Davis. Butts in seats increases. Network prime time games increases. Free agents will to sign at minimum increases. Zion's a better Draymond Green.

No brainer as far as I'm concerned. Kid might be better than Lebron one day.

A better Draymond Green? You and Pif are having bad days.

I was tired and was thinking he'd be better at small ball c than Draymond Green.

Arguing over bull and having JWiz apparently getting upset over some comparisons threw me.

I really am FINALLY having better days. Locally, a close friend died days ago. I've been dealing with health issues. Lots of heavy personal issues. Mlm y heart has been heavy over my son.

Realgm isn't a place to be drawn in to dumb stuff. My bad posts ARE NOT signs of anything but my attempt to stay in the loop socially with this board. Seventeen going on eighteen years...

One day there will be no more posts. People who do not want to be brought down by my style can unfriend and otherwise make the choice to not read my posts.

Ruzious, I know you are not the one who is mad at me.

Yes, saying Zion is like Draymond...

At face value that IS a bad.

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[Ruzious]

Definitely not mad at you, CCJ. I consider you a friend. Sorry about your friend and your health issues. We're both at that age where we ain't what we used to be. I know diabetes is in my immediate future if I don't drastically cut down on my soda intake, yet I continue to drink more instead of less. The answer is always "I'll stop tomorrow". I'm thinking - I'll stop today.

[doclinkin]

I'd keep Zion.

PERIOD

Him on a rookie deal is better than Davis. I'd rather have Zion than Davis. Butts in seats increases. Network prime time games increases. Free agents will to sign at minimum increases. Zion's a better Draymond Green.

No brainer as far as I'm concerned. Kid might be better than Lebron one day.

A better Draymond Green? You and Pif are having bad days.

I was tired and was thinking he'd be better at small ball c than Draymond Green.

Arguing over bull and having JWiz apparently getting upset over some comparisons threw me.

I really am FINALLY having better days. Locally, a close friend died days ago. I've been dealing with health issues. Lots of heavy personal issues. Mlm y heart has been heavy over my son.

Realgm isn't a place to be drawn in to dumb stuff. My bad posts ARE NOT signs of anything but my attempt to stay in the loop socially with this board. Seventeen going on eighteen years...

One day there will be no more posts. People who do not want to be brought down by my style can unfriend and otherwise make the choice to not read my posts.

Ruzious, I know you are not the one who is mad at me.

Yes, saying Zion is like Draymond...

At face value that IS a bad.

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Jwiz was barking at PIF not you. Pif was being disagreeeable. Backed up by stats So JWiz took exception to his tone.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

A better Draymond Green? You and Pif are having bad days.

I was tired and was thinking he'd be better at small ball c than Draymond Green.

Arguing over bull and having JWiz apparently getting upset over some comparisons threw me.

I really am FINALLY having better days. Locally, a close friend died days ago. I've been dealing with health issues. Lots of heavy personal issues. Mlm y heart has been heavy over my son.

Realgm isn't a place to be drawn in to dumb stuff. My bad posts ARE NOT signs of anything but my attempt to stay in the loop socially with this board. Seventeen going on eighteen years... One day there will be no more posts. People who do not want to be brought down by my style can unfriend and otherwise make the choice to not read my posts.

Ruzious, I know you are not the one who is mad at me.

Yes, saying Zion is like Draymond...

At face value that IS a bad.

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Jwiz was barking at PIF not you. Pif was being disagreeeable. Backed up by stats So JWiz took exception to his tone.

Thanks, doc.

Reminds of a real life incident. Back in 1988 I'm cruising with my lady. Driving up a freeway, on my way from San Antonio to Monterey. In passing this stopped vehicle, unbeknownst to my happy arse, police have a kneeling officer pointing rifle (shotgun?). Yup, I pass through what would've been the kill zone of a crossfire.

Me. Wrong place wrong time. Skimming posts and inadvertently seeming to side with PIFs side of back-and-forth. I was wondering why JWiz was so testy. I got so much going on...I just KNEW IT WAS ME...again. Yay! It wasn't me (Shaggy...)

FOOTNOTE to story above:

About 15 seconds after passing by I became terrified. My girl? She didn't see what would have shot her side first. We could have been done in like Bonnie and Clyde. The lieutenant and fiancee, flat blasted lovebirds.

Oxnard, California...yikes. Bet it's a nice place but I won't ever forget what happened there.

[Ruzious]

The tank goes through MIlwaukee again tomorrow. Check the boxes for tank, brots, beer, belches, and bellyaches.