Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVII

[Ruzious]

This is the perfect opportunity to show you the importance of environment. He's going from the very worst organization in the NBA to one of the better ones which has an outstanding coach. My feeling is that he has the potential to be a top 10 player in the NBA and can reach that potential in a good organization. But that's assuming he gets healthy and stays healthy.

Sure, let's see what happens. No question he's going from a terrible organization to a good one. Whatever else, I certainly hope he gets/stays healthy.

If so, & if he continues to perform at the same meh level of his career so far, will it "show you" that players are who they are & basically play at that level wherever they happen to find themselves?

I know this is just friendly banter, 'cause I also know you're both way too smart to say any study with an n of 1 can prove squat. Porzingas is young and has talent, he may turn into a top 15 player in Dallas, tho I have my doubts. If he does, we'll never be able to prove that he wouldn't have in NY
The trade is about risks and chances, Dallas taking a chance on Porzingas being a star and worth more than the picks, and NY taking a chance that cap space will turn into stars. Assuming NY has Intel on Durant, it may well be a good risk for both teams.

You're overrating my intelligence. If Porz takes a giant step forward next season, I'll run with it and rub it in Pif's face all season long!

[payitforward]

To give one simple example of their FO's incompetence, they gave Alonzo Trier -- an undrafted kid whom they could have sewn up for 3 years for under $4m -- an $11+m deal for the same period.

From where did you get that number? I only see a two-year contract with second year being a team option ($3,382,000 and $3,551,100). It's a lot for a undrafted kid who was originally on a two-way contract but he was impressive early in the season and Knicks had cap space so they overpaid a bit to get that team option. Let's not act like it's a horrible move (like giving Meeks or Smith a deal with player option ). I also think Trier and his agent wanted a deal like this and I totally understand that. ...

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/new-york-knicks-team-salary/

Of course it's a horrible deal! & who gives a crap what his agent wanted?

Alonzo Trier was under contract. He was going to make $250K this year (max of a 2-way, I believe). How many examples would you like of other teams who got their undrafted guys for less. R2 players as well -- pretty much of all of them.

Hell, go look at Mitchell Robinson's contract w/ the Knicks....

[gambitx777]

So what are the chances that Ted fronting and we make a big move lol I'm hoping we just find a way to dump Morris ! We don't need him and I think we can get better on the buy out market !

[NatP4]

We need to trade Green and Ariza for draft picks. No doubt about it. Load up on picks in the 2019 draft. Those guys can help a contending team. Try to get a couple low 1sts, but at the very least, get multiple 2nds.

It’s just common sense.

[nate33]

We need to trade Green and Ariza for draft picks. No doubt about it. Load up on picks in the 2019 draft. Those guys can help a contending team. Try to get a couple low 1sts, but at the very least, get multiple 2nds.

It’s just common sense.

Cleveland just traded Rodney freaking Hood for two 2nd round picks and expirings. Hood is a bench player on a decent team. What are Ariza and Green worth? Both could start on several playoff teams. Green in particular has big value because his salary is so low. Most teams have a TPE big enough to absorb him.

How would Green look on OKC to help with their floor spacing? Or in Utah? Or Houston?

[trast66]

We need to trade Green and Ariza for draft picks. No doubt about it. Load up on picks in the 2019 draft. Those guys can help a contending team. Try to get a couple low 1sts, but at the very least, get multiple 2nds.

It’s just common sense.

Cleveland just traded Rodney freaking Hood for two 2nd round picks and expirings. Hood is a bench player on a decent team. What are Ariza and Green worth? Both could start on several playoff teams. Green in particular has big value because his salary is so low. Most teams have a TPE big enough to absorb him.

How would Green look on OKC to help with their floor spacing? Or in Utah? Or Houston?

That’s an incredible haul for Rodney Hood. Green for two seconds malpractice not to do if that’s out there.

Memphis never traded Tyreke Evans last year for some reason, I guess we are folllowing that script.

[NatP4]

We need to trade Green and Ariza for draft picks. No doubt about it. Load up on picks in the 2019 draft. Those guys can help a contending team. Try to get a couple low 1sts, but at the very least, get multiple 2nds.

It’s just common sense.

Cleveland just traded Rodney freaking Hood for two 2nd round picks and expirings. Hood is a bench player on a decent team. What are Ariza and Green worth? Both could start on several playoff teams. Green in particular has big value because his salary is so low. Most teams have a TPE big enough to absorb him.

How would Green look on OKC to help with their floor spacing? Or in Utah? Or Houston?

That’s an incredible haul for Rodney Hood. Green for two seconds malpractice not to do if that’s out there.

Memphis never traded Tyreke Evans last year for some reason, I guess we are folllowing that script.

Memphis wanted a 1st and we only offered multiple 2nds.

We need to make that move for multiple 2nds.

[Dat2U]

We need to trade Green and Ariza for draft picks. No doubt about it. Load up on picks in the 2019 draft. Those guys can help a contending team. Try to get a couple low 1sts, but at the very least, get multiple 2nds.

It’s just common sense.

Cleveland just traded Rodney freaking Hood for two 2nd round picks and expirings. Hood is a bench player on a decent team. What are Ariza and Green worth? Both could start on several playoff teams. Green in particular has big value because his salary is so low. Most teams have a TPE big enough to absorb him.

How would Green look on OKC to help with their floor spacing? Or in Utah? Or Houston?

I want to pair two of the three and see if we could get a 1st. I think its doable. Philly was looking at Morris before he got hurt and they could really use a guy like Green with Wilson Chandler out. Certainly the combo Ariza & Green could get us a pick somewhere. Would Sacramento absorb Dekker for nothing to help their playoff run?

Using Ariza, Green, Morris & Dekker if the Wizards could procure a late 1st and get under the luxury tax that would be a real win.

[Ruzious]

Kind of odd rumor - I heard on WTOP - a news radio station - that the Wiz are discussing a Porter for Favors trade. Odd because they rarely report trade rumors - they just do short sports updates. I liked Favors as a solid but unspectacular player, but he'd be a terrible fit. In today's NBA, he's a center; not a PF, and we have centers, and at 28, there's no upside.

[pcbothwel]

Kind of odd rumor - I heard on WTOP - a news radio station - that the Wiz are discussing a Porter for Favors trade. Odd because they rarely report trade rumors - they just do short sports updates. I liked Favors as a solid but unspectacular player, but he'd be a terrible fit. In today's NBA, he's a center; not a PF, and we have centers, and at 28, there's no upside.

Porter & Mahinmi for Favors, Sefolosha, Crowder, Udoh, 2019 top 20 protected 1st.

[payitforward]

Sure, let's see what happens. No question he's going from a terrible organization to a good one. Whatever else, I certainly hope he gets/stays healthy.

If so, & if he continues to perform at the same meh level of his career so far, will it "show you" that players are who they are & basically play at that level wherever they happen to find themselves?

I know this is just friendly banter, 'cause I also know you're both way too smart to say any study with an n of 1 can prove squat. Porzingas is young and has talent, he may turn into a top 15 player in Dallas, tho I have my doubts. If he does, we'll never be able to prove that he wouldn't have in NY
The trade is about risks and chances, Dallas taking a chance on Porzingas being a star and worth more than the picks, and NY taking a chance that cap space will turn into stars. Assuming NY has Intel on Durant, it may well be a good risk for both teams.

You're overrating my intelligence. If Porz takes a giant step forward next season, I'll run with it and rub it in Pif's face all season long!

I would expect no less! & when the opposite proves to be the case, I'll be the one doing the face-rubbing!

(but this is a case in which I'd rather be wrong than right -- I like to see young players succeed!)

[payitforward]

Kind of odd rumor - I heard on WTOP - a news radio station - that the Wiz are discussing a Porter for Favors trade. Odd because they rarely report trade rumors - they just do short sports updates. I liked Favors as a solid but unspectacular player, but he'd be a terrible fit. In today's NBA, he's a center; not a PF, and we have centers, and at 28, there's no upside.

That's an awful trade, you are right. & if it's straight up it's ridiculous.

[FAH1223]

Kind of odd rumor - I heard on WTOP - a news radio station - that the Wiz are discussing a Porter for Favors trade. Odd because they rarely report trade rumors - they just do short sports updates. I liked Favors as a solid but unspectacular player, but he'd be a terrible fit. In today's NBA, he's a center; not a PF, and we have centers, and at 28, there's no upside.

That's an awful trade, you are right. & if it's straight up it's ridiculous.

Would be #SoWizards.

Ted was on WTOP like 3 days ago saying that John, Brad, and Otto ain't gonna be traded.

[Jay81]

Kind of odd rumor - I heard on WTOP - a news radio station - that the Wiz are discussing a Porter for Favors trade. Odd because they rarely report trade rumors - they just do short sports updates. I liked Favors as a solid but unspectacular player, but he'd be a terrible fit. In today's NBA, he's a center; not a PF, and we have centers, and at 28, there's no upside.

That's an awful trade, you are right. & if it's straight up it's ridiculous.

Would be #SoWizards.

Ted was on WTOP like 3 days ago saying that John, Brad, and Otto ain't gonna be traded.

alot of teams have interest in Porter. That should be a red flag for ernie not to give him away but

[80sballboy]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/wizardsinsider/2010/12/ted-leonsis-on-arenas-trade-ru.html
In 2010, Leonsis was adamant about not trading Gilbert Arenas

Nine days later?
http://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=5932861

[gambitx777]

We need to trade Green and Ariza for draft picks. No doubt about it. Load up on picks in the 2019 draft. Those guys can help a contending team. Try to get a couple low 1sts, but at the very least, get multiple 2nds.

It’s just common sense.

Cleveland just traded Rodney freaking Hood for two 2nd round picks and expirings. Hood is a bench player on a decent team. What are Ariza and Green worth? Both could start on several playoff teams. Green in particular has big value because his salary is so low. Most teams have a TPE big enough to absorb him.

How would Green look on OKC to help with their floor spacing? Or in Utah? Or Houston?

We should trade these one year value guys out cuz maybe green comes back but does ariza? We are stuck with a GM that thinks he's safe if we make the playoffs.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Green, Ariza and Morris for whatever draft picks you can get.

And I really like Green and Ariza. But this season is ovah!

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Kind of odd rumor - I heard on WTOP - a news radio station - that the Wiz are discussing a Porter for Favors trade. Odd because they rarely report trade rumors - they just do short sports updates. I liked Favors as a solid but unspectacular player, but he'd be a terrible fit. In today's NBA, he's a center; not a PF, and we have centers, and at 28, there's no upside.

They might as well triple down on stupid.

Free Otto.

Losers.

[TheBabyMaker]

Kind of odd rumor - I heard on WTOP - a news radio station - that the Wiz are discussing a Porter for Favors trade. Odd because they rarely report trade rumors - they just do short sports updates. I liked Favors as a solid but unspectacular player, but he'd be a terrible fit. In today's NBA, he's a center; not a PF, and we have centers, and at 28, there's no upside.

They might as well triple down on stupid.

Free Otto.

Losers.

Otto looks like the son of Giannis free him to play with daddy.

[80sballboy]

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