Anthony Davis requests trade, part 3

[VeryMuchWoke]

All depends on Danny's confidence level that he can convince AD. Dannys a gambler.. but he's not a fool.

I think the only reason he would do it under these circumstances is he is afraid he will lose Kyrie.

Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.

If Danny does it, it was probably the right move.

[CeltsfaninDC]

I swear guys you are always falling for the Klutch media bs. The Davis group are trying to force a trade before the deadline. Of course they are going to say Boston isn't a team they are going to re-sign with. They don't want the Pels holding out for Boston

Its sooooo obvious thats it absurd

[Homerclease]

All depends on Danny's confidence level that he can convince AD. Dannys a gambler.. but he's not a fool.

I think the only reason he would do it under these circumstances is he is afraid he will lose Kyrie.

Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.

Were 24-9 since changing the lineup and have moved up to the 3 seed, you think he blows this up now?

[ajones9219]

I swear guys you are always falling for the Klutch media bs. The Davis group are trying to force a trade before the deadline. Of course they are going to say Boston isn't a team they are going to re-sign with. They don't want the Pels holding out for Boston

Well sure. But neither does Anthony Davis. There's the rub. And maybe some idiot GM would give up Tatum for a rental, but Ainge won't.

People here are talking as though AD to Boston was some kind of done deal that Klutch sports stepped in to screw up. The fact is that it was always a long shot. As soon as he fired his agent and hired Rich Paul, the Celtics odds were close to zero.

Just be happy he isn't going to Toronto.

Disagree. Id bet almost anything that if this goes to June all of a sudden Davis starts changing his tune. He just doesn't want to burn another half season in New Orleans

[SmartWentCrazy]

I think the only reason he would do it under these circumstances is he is afraid he will lose Kyrie.

Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.

I don't give us a shot at AD. But I do think theres a slight chance Kyrie gets moved. I say slight chance because theres not a ton of deals that benefit us.

Though its probably nothing, sitting Kyrie for the last game before the deadline after making a big stink that he’s 100% healthy is a funny coincidence. Especially after this past tumultuous weekend.

I get that the Cavs suck, but so did the short-handed Knicks. Just feels really weird to me.

[Fencer reregistered]

The problem this year with AD is, Boston can't very well make a "screw it" move with what it would cost to bring him here, when we don't even know if our current franchise player wants to be here. It could set the franchise back literally a decade or more.

Again, I fail to see the problem. The Celtics can't trade for AD until the summer anyway, and by then Irving's intentions will be much clearer.

[Homerclease]

Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.

I don't give us a shot at AD. But I do think theres a slight chance Kyrie gets moved. I say slight chance because theres not a ton of deals that benefit us.

Though its probably nothing, sitting Kyrie for the last game before the deadline after making a big stink that he’s 100% healthy is a funny coincidence. Especially after this past tumultuous weekend.

I get that the Cavs suck, but so dis the short-handed Knicks. Just feels really weird to me.

It’s a bit apples and oranges because sitting him against the Knicks after the whole Kyrie to the Knicks thing went public would’ve looked much more shady then what we are reading into this now. Most likely answer is the most obvious one IMO. The Cavs suck and we’re trying to keep Kyrie fresh for the postseason

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

We all know that Kyrie and AD are friends, and we've discussed the theory that maybe Kyrie doesn't plan on sticking around.

HOWEVER,

I don't think we've discussed the scenario where Kyrie might have actually told AD that he plans on sticking around. Perhaps that's why he's so angry - AD and his camp know the truth and yet they keep dragging his name into rumors with lies. If this is the case, then does that create friction between Ky and AD moving forward?

[CeltsfaninDC]

Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.

I don't give us a shot at AD. But I do think theres a slight chance Kyrie gets moved. I say slight chance because theres not a ton of deals that benefit us.

Though its probably nothing, sitting Kyrie for the last game before the deadline after making a big stink that he’s 100% healthy is a funny coincidence. Especially after this past tumultuous weekend.

I get that the Cavs suck, but so did the short-handed Knicks. Just feels really weird to me.

His whole family was there including his Dad. He may have sucked it up to play that game but had a setback afterwards. Not that odd to me.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I think the only reason he would do it under these circumstances is he is afraid he will lose Kyrie.

Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.

Were 24-9 since changing the lineup and have moved up to the 3 seed, you think he blows this up now?

Ainge wouldnt want to unless Kyrie said he’s out. He wouldnt let him walk for nothing.

[Homerclease]

The problem this year with AD is, Boston can't very well make a "screw it" move with what it would cost to bring him here, when we don't even know if our current franchise player wants to be here. It could set the franchise back literally a decade or more.

Again, I fail to see the problem. The Celtics can't trade for AD until the summer anyway, and by then Irving's intentions will be much clearer.

This. All of this is smoke and mirrors.

[amory87]

I've been doing my best to not pay attention to the drama, but I have to admit at this point I'm pretty convinced Kyrie is gone.

I get that he's a weird dude and his mood changes from moment to moment. But assuming he's still planning to be here long term and he wants to win championships, there's absolutely zero reason for him to have raised all of these questions right now about re-signing. It's the single most damaging thing that's happened to our AD trade aspirations. It's like he was actively trying to ensure that AD won't end up a Celtic next season.

And I've seen the narrative that he doesn't want AD here because he wants to be the unquestioned alpha and I just don't buy that. I'm sure he does want to be an alpha, but he's not an idiot. He must know he needs significant help to improve our odds.

He didn't even have to get the green pom poms out, he just had to say nothing.

How exactly are our AD trade aspirations hurt by what Kyrie is or isn't saying at a time we can't trade for AD (and hence also can't ask him for a commitment) anyway?

Simple, when he gives legitimacy to the rumors that he may want to leave after all, he strengthens LA's pre-deadline offer.

That's not to say that NO will pull the trigger, but he's certainly not helping NO not pull the trigger.

[SmartWentCrazy]

I don't give us a shot at AD. But I do think theres a slight chance Kyrie gets moved. I say slight chance because theres not a ton of deals that benefit us.

Though its probably nothing, sitting Kyrie for the last game before the deadline after making a big stink that he’s 100% healthy is a funny coincidence. Especially after this past tumultuous weekend.

I get that the Cavs suck, but so dis the short-handed Knicks. Just feels really weird to me.

It’s a bit apples and oranges because sitting him against the Knicks after the whole Kyrie to the Knicks thing went public would’ve looked much more shady then what we are reading into this now. Most likely answer is the most obvious one IMO. The Cavs suck and we’re trying to keep Kyrie fresh for the postseason

Sitting out a third consecutive game with an injury wouldnt look shady.

[Fencer reregistered]

That's the sad part. It won't get better, and this isn't about the Celtics. It's the league.

It's American culture. This model of winning by stacking the deck as heavily as possible is pervasive everywhere and certainly rampant across sports, professional and amateur. It's been growing for decades. I'm actually surprised it took as long as it did to blossom in the NBA.

To be fair that's not at all true for American sports. It's the exact opposite.

Most other nations worship soccer and that's the utmost of corruption and monarchy salaries like you see in baseball.

American sports culture is really one of the first with the idea that keeping competitive balance is paramount and you see if throughout the NBA, NHL, NFL, and MLS.

This is new an unexpected wealth because just like say the marginal tax rate, the athletes are so wealthy now that salary doesn't matter to them at all. One year and they're super rich so **** it who cares about being locked in for 5 years and actually trying.

I don't think Celtics fans have any basis for complaining about stacked teams. Some of the most stacked teams in NBA history have been Celtics ones. Notably, the Russell era started with Cousy and Russell winning MVP in consecutive years. And I belive both Russell/Hondo and Bird/Parish went 1/4 in MVP voting in at least one season each.

[brackdan70]

I think the only reason he would do it under these circumstances is he is afraid he will lose Kyrie.

Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.

Were 24-9 since changing the lineup and have moved up to the 3 seed, you think he blows this up now?

This is a great point.

[Homerclease]

Which is why Im afraid Danny will do what he has to with Kyrie before the deadline.

Were 24-9 since changing the lineup and have moved up to the 3 seed, you think he blows this up now?

Ainge wouldnt want to unless Kyrie said he’s out. He wouldnt let him walk for nothing.

So he isn’t dealt do you feel we’re a lock to resign him?

I also think Ainge may feel we’re closer to the final goal than we do. Our guys have proven they can raise their games in the playoffs. The Bucks and Raptors men outside of Kawhi can’t make the same claim.

[DK-All Day]

I swear guys you are always falling for the Klutch media bs. The Davis group are trying to force a trade before the deadline. Of course they are going to say Boston isn't a team they are going to re-sign with. They don't want the Pels holding out for Boston

Well sure. But neither does Anthony Davis. There's the rub. And maybe some idiot GM would give up Tatum for a rental, but Ainge won't.

People here are talking as though AD to Boston was some kind of done deal that Klutch sports stepped in to screw up. The fact is that it was always a long shot. As soon as he fired his agent and hired Rich Paul, the Celtics odds were close to zero.

Just be happy he isn't going to Toronto.

Disagree. Id bet almost anything that if this goes to June all of a sudden Davis starts changing his tune. He just doesn't want to burn another half season in New Orleans

He’s knows that if he isn’t traded by the deadline, he’s done for the year.

[CavemanDoctor]

I can't believe some of you guys can't see through Rich Paul. It is hysterical.

He extends the list to:

LAC--In LA where Davis wants to be
Bucks--Klutch client Eric Bledsoe
Knicks--Davis wants to be there and knows if we don't get AD that Kyrie probably goes there because of KD
LAL--LeBrlon James and Klutch

All of those teams KNOW that the Celtics have the most assets, barring NY getting Zion. THEY KNOW IT. THEY ARE SCARED WE ARE GOING TO GET HIM . And don't you think LeBron and his b**** named Rich wants nothing but misery for Boston, as a Laker and as main rival of ours for years?

So they leak that he doesn't want Boston so that we don't get him, but Ainge just laughs, kicks back with a nice glass of milk (Mormons can't drink obviously), and watches the media frenzy ensue.

Sad some of you guys can't see this. Just plain sad.

My thoughts exactly. Don't fall for it, guys. It's all an act of desperation, and it's going to get even worse in these next 72 hours as the desperation hits a fever pitch.

If you're AD's camp and you want the Lakers, and you know Boston can beat any Lakers package, the tactic to use would be to flat out say AD won't re-sign in Boston. The trouble here with such simpleton tactics, is you are trying to bluff a poker master in Ainge who sees through this and will call your bluff 10/10 times, and trade for him anyway. So what do you have to do in response? Ratchet it up a notch and act like you're not just blacklisting Boston; in fact, you're even listing a small market you'd go to (Milwaukee). The issue is everyone, including Demps I hope, can see through that as these other teams you'd be willing to re-sign with don't really have a shot at trading with NO anyway so we're back to square one: Lakers vs. Celtics.

The above is what could have been easily predicted to happen, and lo and behold, it has now come to pass. Trust that with each passing day until Thursday things will get ratcheted up even more as the Lakers get increasingly desperate. Don't fall for it today. Don't fall for it on Wednesday.

Steely resolve, like Ainge.

And for those of you saying "yeah, that's all well and good that Ainge will do it, but then what if we get screwed in the offseason when he leaves" please trust that the chances of that happening are very low, for reasons that have been discussed ad nauseam. An AD trade necessitates Kyrie staying put so that whole fear is gone. And if Kyrie is staying put, you even get outside shots at the KD move happening too. If Kyrie isn't staying put, well Danny's not getting AD anyway so you have nothing to worry about.

[Homerclease]

Though its probably nothing, sitting Kyrie for the last game before the deadline after making a big stink that he’s 100% healthy is a funny coincidence. Especially after this past tumultuous weekend.

I get that the Cavs suck, but so dis the short-handed Knicks. Just feels really weird to me.

It’s a bit apples and oranges because sitting him against the Knicks after the whole Kyrie to the Knicks thing went public would’ve looked much more shady then what we are reading into this now. Most likely answer is the most obvious one IMO. The Cavs suck and we’re trying to keep Kyrie fresh for the postseason

Sitting out a third consecutive game with an injury wouldnt look shady.

He travelled with the team. It would’ve looked extremely shady

[SmartWentCrazy]

Were 24-9 since changing the lineup and have moved up to the 3 seed, you think he blows this up now?

Ainge wouldnt want to unless Kyrie said he’s out. He wouldnt let him walk for nothing.

So he isn’t dealt do you feel we’re a lock to resign him?

I also think Ainge may feel we’re closer to the final goal than we do. Our guys have proven they can raise their games in the playoffs. The Bucks and Raptors men outside of Kawhi can’t make the same claim.

Ill feel much better about it, for sure.