John Wall OUT for 12 months; Ruptured Achilles

[Jamaaliver]

How do we even rebuild if decide to go full tank
Walls contract hasnt even kicked in yet and there is ZERO chance any team would ever trade for him under any circumstances

You trade Beal and Porter, don't necessarily re-sign anyone other than Thomas Bryant and focus on the draft so that the players start hitting their primes when Wall's contract is close to done.

100% agree. This is what I would have recommended even before the Wall injury. And with the right deal, your team could be fully restocked in 18 months. (Two NBA Drafts)

[pcbothwel]

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Makes sense

The first tweet about staying the course sounds worse than it is. Wall was done for the year already, so his injury shouldnt really effect small trade deadline deals.

Interesting that it mentions getting under the tax a priority though. Good to hear.

A two year rebuild is the far and away best avenue. A top 8 pick this year & next year along with whatever assets Beal gets you could be enough... with a different GM

[queridiculo]

Not sure if you guys caught this, but on top of the tear, Wall was also dealing with an infection on the incision of his original surgery.

When it rains it pours, best of luck John.

[closg00]

Yikes!!! Getting below the Luxury Tax is still a priority, that means Ted needs Ernie to hold his hand throughout the coming dark days.

Worst of worst nightmare scenarios to paying John his gargantuan salary while he is a shell of his former self, cause he can’t shoot. Damn!

[80sballboy]

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[nate33]

Basically, the Wizards are screwed for the next 5 years. They have a useful cap space of roughly 65% of what every other team can work with. It's impossible to field a competitive team like that.

They may as well start a complete rebuild. Emulate The Process like Philly did. There is no hope for now so they may as well hope for the future.

Trade everyone but Brown and Bryant. Tank for 4 years. Wall will come off the books in time to start resigning picks as they come off their rookie deals

[WallToWall]

Well, this suxs big monkies.
Get well John. Also, run, dont walk, to the bank and cash that cheque.

As for the team, we are in a big bad bind. We have to pay max salary for a player who will not see the court till the end of next season, or maybe even two season from now. It would be virtually impossible to trade him, so we are stuck with him. He will be near 30 yo, with a bad wheel , when he comes back. Regardless of if we keep Porter and/or Beal, the only thing we can and must do now is draft wisely, and be content as be a bottom dweller for 3 more seasons.

[verbal8]

This team is completely screwed for the next decade

The curse of the Bullets has outlasted the name.

[Wizfanman]

At this point I just want Ted to sale the team. This is a result of his being content with a ceiling of mediocrity.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Not sure if you guys caught this, but on top of the tear, Wall was also dealing with an infection on the incision of his original surgery.

When it rains it pours, best of luck John.

My thoughts: Just like Gilbert. He's not going to be good any more any time soon. The Wizards get to pay. GOOD. Same GM. Same result.

John Wall, I hope doesn't feel guilty, doesn't feel like he needs to be around the team, and ABOVE ALL that he keeps a HEALTHY LIFESTYLE. God gave him all the money in the world and JOHN SHOULD USE HIS WEALTH WISELY. Hopefully, he doesn't self-destruct because NOW HE IS IN RGIII territory.

Media is going to turn on him. Fans are what have you done for me lately.

SCREW THE WiZARDS. Idiot GM did the very same thing 10-12 years later. I'm thinking this time I'm happy for Wall that he got paid. I'm hoping Wall grows in every way outside of the game. This team's poorly run and he wasn't going to be traded any way.

[NatP4]

Somewhere, a NatP4 is jumping in joy.

Get healthy, John.

You’re so obsessed with me

[AFM]

I really feel for John. It's quite possible that his career is over, in any meaningful sense.
If Ted had a brain he'd fire EG and completely blow up the team. Like nate said, we're screwed for the next 5 years.

[I_Like_Dirt]

100% agree. This is what I would have recommended even before the Wall injury. And with the right deal, your team could be fully restocked in 18 months. (Two NBA Drafts)

Before the Wall injury I think things were a bit more open-ended. There was still room for a turnaround with actual good management at the helm. The Raptors dramatically changed their fortunes when Masai Ujiri inherited Derozan, Lowry and Valanciunas and basically gutted the roster around them while keeping the unpopular coach of the day, too. I don't think Grunfeld would have pulled it off but I don't think Grunfeld will pull much of anything these days as everything he touches seems to wilt.

With Wall's new injury... that's basically like some of the old school expansion teams that used to start out with a smaller cap than the rest of the league. Beal in particular is a player that might let a team play reasonably well despite all that but Porter, though good, isn't the kind of contract a team with that kind of cap limitation can stomach and the margin for error is basically 0 at that point even to just make the playoffs. There is some downward momentum now and it does make sense to leverage that a bit. I also think the value on Beal and Porter just took a hit because teams are going to know the Wizards' talk of trying to make the playoffs for these next season or two is largely laughable. The Lakers will probably want Beal but I'm not a fan of what they have to offer.

[I_Like_Dirt]

I really feel for John. It's quite possible that his career is over, in any meaningful sense.
If Ted had a brain he'd fire EG and completely blow up the team. Like nate said, we're screwed for the next 5 years.

Fool me once? Shame on Gilbert Arenas!!! Fool me twice? Shame on John Wall!!! Poor Ernie Grunfeld. He's just cursed with bad luck from all these awful players out to get him.

[Ruzious]

I mean... how in the frikkin hell does a professional athlete let that happen to him when he knows he has to take the utmost care of his ankle? He still hasn't even reached the start of his 170 mil extension.

And going back before this... how in the hell did John and the team let him play if his ankle was as messed up before the operation?

How does the same organization have the Arenas re-injury and the Wall re-injury?

[Wizardspride]

Somewhere, a NatP4 is jumping in joy.

Get healthy, John.

You’re so obsessed with me

Perhaps.....but you didn't say he was wrong.

[Wizardspride]

I mean... how in the frikkin hell does a professional athlete let that happen to him when he knows he has to take the utmost care of his ankle? He still hasn't even reached the start of his 170 mil extension.

And going back before this... how in the hell did John and the team let him play if his ankle was as messed up before the operation?

How does the same organization have the Arenas re-injury and the Wall re-injury?

The same way Deangelo Hall slipped and reinjured his achillies.

"Stuff" happens...

[NatP4]

Why would you give someone an extension 2 years before his current deal ends?

Wall is gonna make 40 million to do nothing next season

[dorianwrite]

They won't do this, but:

1. At a minimum, trade Green and Ariza for something at the deadline -- expiring contracts, 2nd round picks.
2. If anyone will take Markieff Morris for basically anything (ham sandwich and a bag of chips?), do it as long as it helps with getting under the cap.
3. Keep Beal as the face of the franchise and its best player, as long as he hasn't firmly indicated that he has no interest in staying with Washington long-term. Try to sell him on being the team leader, though, because you won't get anything of remotely equal value right now by trading him. (If trading Beal, then proceed to full-on tank mode, Do Not Pass Go, Do Not Collect $200.)
4. Porter will never be significantly better than what he is. If we were seriously offered a first round pick by anyone, take it. If we were actually offered Harrison Barnes (roughly equivalent production and one less year of salary), take it.
5. Resign Sato if he's not asking for the world. If he is, letting him go isn't the end of the world (he'd never be a starter on a great team, who needs even a good starting point guard on a lousy team, and losing him would probably accelerate the tank job -- intentional or inadvertent -- that will be next season).
6. Get as many of the young energy guys to remain as you can, probably in this order: Bryant, Randle, McRae, Dekker, Robinson. (Bryant is the only one you offer much of a salary or for more than a year or two.) They all seem like good people and will be fun to root for while we lose a lot of games next year.
7. Wall stays because no one will take him off our hands. Brown stays because he's on a rookie deal and we still haven't figured out exactly what he is and could be.
8. Let Mahinmi expire after next season. Don't worry about what Dwight Howard decides to do, because if he leaves, there's no point handing over his cap money to anyone good if we're tanking, and if he stays, he's not good enough to interrupt the tank.

If we're lucky, Wall comes back as a very good player and someone loses their mind and decides to trade for his contract in a couple of years. If not, then hopefully our combination of first round picks and whichever young guys from this year we retain are all ready to compete in 4-5 years when Wall either gets us something decent in a trade because of his huge expiring contract or the contract runs its natural course.

[Ruzious]

Why would you give someone an extension 2 years before his current deal ends?

Wall is gonna make 40 million to do nothing next season

Yup, and we both said it at the time it made no sense. And now it's a $170 million mistake.