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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#141 » by Uncle Mxy » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:40 pm

I'd rather have another second round pick than Svi. I am not feeling it for him, simply because he doesn't look like he'll be able to defend, even on the off chance that he finds his NBA shot.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#142 » by Kilo » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:43 pm

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Agreed, its entirely possible the Clippers end up landing Davis, and no other big name FA's choose to play alongside Lebron but rather go to the Clippers and or New York this summer. Its pretty clear from comments made by Durant he doesn't want to play next to LeBron and also its clear that the Clippers have been rumored to be the front runner for Leonard this summer.


Lebron could get hit by a meteor I guess.


They are 500 WITH lebron. And it's Lebron. It's certainly not out of the question that if the Lakers whiff, he could just bolt for greener pastures again. Or, he could just get 2 years older and finally start to break down. 20 years in the NBA is a loooong time.


Yeah, don't mind me, I'm just grumpy. LAL have a small window and need to land a big fish FA this off-season to maximize Lebron's time there. The team seemed to revolt last night a bit, players unhappy being pawns in King James life? - all is not well is LaLa Land.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#143 » by El Chivo » Wed Feb 6, 2019 3:49 pm

This move makes sense only if something else follows.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#144 » by kpt » Wed Feb 6, 2019 4:09 pm

El Chivo wrote:This move makes sense only if something else follows.


This move makes sense if we think Bullock gets more than we would/could pay. Simple business to help our cap hell
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#145 » by El Chivo » Wed Feb 6, 2019 4:20 pm

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El Chivo wrote:This move makes sense only if something else follows.


This move makes sense if we think Bullock gets more than we would/could pay. Simple business to help our cap hell


Yeah but we are in cap hell without starting caliber SG and SF.

And I don't think Griffin will enjoy this situation.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#146 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Feb 6, 2019 4:42 pm

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Mr. Krabs wrote:So what are you suggesting dude? We keep Dre Blake and Reggie and continue this ride? I think it is a clear indication that something has to change when your team is in the conversation for the worst future in the league with the freaking Wizards who has 40 mil a year in the dumpster. I personally dont want to make the same mistake to retool again by getting Conley for our pick which may not even be enough for the 8th seed now


What I am suggesting is NO Panic moves. Just because a few fans want to tank because how lucky Philly got is no indication on how to run your franchise when a business is involved. That could lead to bankruptcy if you alienate all fans when the team has no players for a few years where Detroit has a problem getting attendance when they have Blake and Drummond. I am sure Drummond and Reggie and possibly Blake may be traded, but these things take time. May take until summer or next trade deadline, but nothing major will happen because Management won't all of a sudden give up and trade everyone away. That only happens in NBA2k by kids or adults acting like kids playing games.


I agree that it is also OK to wait out contracts rather than selling low. But I disagree that it is absurd to think that it is possible that the management might dump what we have for lesser contracts and picks. It happens all the time, Clippers did it, Knicks did it, Grizzlies and Lakers will do it. What I consider a panic move is to trade a first rounder for a 32 year old dude who has not made the all star on a huge contract to get a 4 game series again.


We just did it with Bullock. But, Dre for Bizmark is not a dump for lesser contract. That is like trading for Dre for Josh Smith or some other completely useless bench player making $18 mil plus per year. That is suicide and an insanely moronic move. I know you hate Dre, but at least get something of value for him. No GM would trade Dre for Bizmark ever without losing his job.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#147 » by SamFlow » Wed Feb 6, 2019 6:42 pm

Grob is officially the pistons only small forward.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#148 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:27 pm

BigDaddyJungle wrote:Grob is officially the pistons only small forward.


According to ESPN Roster, we have no SF's.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#149 » by SamFlow » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:34 pm

Well, espn has Thon Maker rated as a F.... for sf/pf.

So there it is... our new frontcourt


Reggie
sg.?.galloway or kennard or svi
Thon
Blake
Andre

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Svi is 6:8 with short arms, but looks more like a sg than a sf with his play imo
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#150 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Feb 6, 2019 7:37 pm

BigDaddyJungle wrote:Well, espn has Thon Maker rated as a F.... for sf/pf.

So there it is... our new frontcourt


Reggie
sg.?.galloway or kennard or svi
Thon
Blake
Andre

...

Svi is 6:8 with short arms, but looks more like a sg than a sf with his play imo


Thon is 7'1". Doubt he is playing SF for us, but if he is agile enough, give him a shot to prove himself. He isn't that good at 3's tho.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#151 » by thesack12 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 9:29 pm

Hate this trade.

Not the idea or logic behind it, as selling off a soon to walk free agent for young players and picks is a good strategy. But this particular return is pretty bad.

Svi is a very ho-hum "prospect" and that 2nd is projected to be in the back half of the draft. Svi is ridiculously redundant to Kennard. Time to move Kennard while he still has value. Detroit has a bad habit of holding guys far too long thus zapping their value.

Bullock is the definition of the the most coveted type of complimentary players in today's NBA, 3&D. Bullock should have had a lot more value than what Detroit got for him.

I wonder why this move was made like 36 hours before the deadline, why rush? For a deal like this, you wait until the buzzer to see who gets antsy and ups their offer.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#152 » by thesack12 » Wed Feb 6, 2019 9:52 pm

BTW, how the hell did Svi get so overpaid?

Dude is making almost twice what Khyri and Bruce are, and Svi was drafted after both those guys.

Hell, Svi is making $250k more than Elie Okobo who was the first pick in the 2nd round. Svi was taken 16 spots after Elie.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#153 » by SamFlow » Wed Feb 6, 2019 11:50 pm

thesack12 wrote:BTW, how the hell did Svi get so overpaid?

Dude is making almost twice what Khyri and Bruce are, and Svi was drafted after both those guys.

Hell, Svi is making $250k more than Elie Okobo who was the first pick in the 2nd round. Svi was taken 16 spots after Elie.


He came in and drained three after three after three. There is a video showing it took about 2 minutes to finally miss one.

So in this day and age, if a guy can hit the three, you think about giving him a chance.

They say the games hasn't slowed down for him yet, but when it does, Klay Thompson is who they talk about.

Short arms, Defense lacking. 6-8 and keeps moving like a sg should. Worth a flyer on. Contract not guaranteed.


No risk. And Bullock wasn't staying soooooo better something than nothing.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#154 » by Kilo » Wed Feb 6, 2019 11:55 pm

thesack12 wrote:BTW, how the hell did Svi get so overpaid?

Dude is making almost twice what Khyri and Bruce are, and Svi was drafted after both those guys.

Hell, Svi is making $250k more than Elie Okobo who was the first pick in the 2nd round. Svi was taken 16 spots after Elie.


Svi had legit Euroball offers. He's the Ukraine Lebron James. At least when he was 14yo, he sort of stagnated I guess since then - but he was a teenage phenom.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#155 » by thesack12 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 12:54 am

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thesack12 wrote:BTW, how the hell did Svi get so overpaid?

Dude is making almost twice what Khyri and Bruce are, and Svi was drafted after both those guys.

Hell, Svi is making $250k more than Elie Okobo who was the first pick in the 2nd round. Svi was taken 16 spots after Elie.


He came in and drained three after three after three. There is a video showing it took about 2 minutes to finally miss one.

So in this day and age, if a guy can hit the three, you think about giving him a chance.

They say the games hasn't slowed down for him yet, but when it does, Klay Thompson is who they talk about.

Short arms, Defense lacking. 6-8 and keeps moving like a sg should. Worth a flyer on. Contract not guaranteed.


No risk. And Bullock wasn't staying soooooo better something than nothing.


Not sure what this post has to due with me asking why Svi is so much more overpaid than his 2nd round peers.

But was this a highlight video you saw this in? Highlight videos mean next to nothing to me personally, they are designed with the expressed bias of making something look good.

I also once witnessed James Jones drain 82 consecutive three pointers during a pre game shootaround. Yes I actually counted them. Most NBA guys can cash a pile of uncontested jumpshots in a casual atmosphere.

I agree the risk is basically none, my gripe against the Bullock trade is where's the value?
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#156 » by thesack12 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 12:57 am

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thesack12 wrote:BTW, how the hell did Svi get so overpaid?

Dude is making almost twice what Khyri and Bruce are, and Svi was drafted after both those guys.

Hell, Svi is making $250k more than Elie Okobo who was the first pick in the 2nd round. Svi was taken 16 spots after Elie.


Svi had legit Euroball offers. He's the Ukraine Lebron James. At least when he was 14yo, he sort of stagnated I guess since then - but he was a teenage phenom.


That kind of explains it, I guess. Honestly though, most if not all, of the prospects that were considered draft worthy get offers overseas.

Svi was VERY MEH at Kansas, and taken in the back half of the 2nd round. I'm not really seeing why he deserved to get paid much more handsomely than his 2nd round peers. If he didn't sign with the Lakers, oh well they would have still held his draft rights.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#157 » by SamFlow » Thu Feb 7, 2019 12:59 am

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thesack12 wrote:BTW, how the hell did Svi get so overpaid?

Dude is making almost twice what Khyri and Bruce are, and Svi was drafted after both those guys.

Hell, Svi is making $250k more than Elie Okobo who was the first pick in the 2nd round. Svi was taken 16 spots after Elie.


He came in and drained three after three after three. There is a video showing it took about 2 minutes to finally miss one.

So in this day and age, if a guy can hit the three, you think about giving him a chance.

They say the games hasn't slowed down for him yet, but when it does, Klay Thompson is who they talk about.

Short arms, Defense lacking. 6-8 and keeps moving like a sg should. Worth a flyer on. Contract not guaranteed.


No risk. And Bullock wasn't staying soooooo better something than nothing.


Not sure what this post has to due with me asking why Svi is so much more overpaid than his 2nd round peers.

But was this a highlight video you saw this in? Highlight videos mean next to nothing to me personally, they are designed with the expresses bias of making something look good.

I also once witness James Jones drain 82 consecutive three pointers during a pre game shootaround. Yes I actually counted them. Most NBA guys can cash a pile of uncontested jumpshots in a casual atmosphere.

I agree the risk is basically none, my gripe against the Bullock trade is where's the value?



Because they thought they found a sleeper, a steal, etc. He's a euro player that went pro overseas at an early age... he could always just go back. They say in his country he is super famous like Lebron.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#158 » by thesack12 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 1:03 am

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He came in and drained three after three after three. There is a video showing it took about 2 minutes to finally miss one.

So in this day and age, if a guy can hit the three, you think about giving him a chance.

They say the games hasn't slowed down for him yet, but when it does, Klay Thompson is who they talk about.

Short arms, Defense lacking. 6-8 and keeps moving like a sg should. Worth a flyer on. Contract not guaranteed.


No risk. And Bullock wasn't staying soooooo better something than nothing.


Not sure what this post has to due with me asking why Svi is so much more overpaid than his 2nd round peers.

But was this a highlight video you saw this in? Highlight videos mean next to nothing to me personally, they are designed with the expresses bias of making something look good.

I also once witness James Jones drain 82 consecutive three pointers during a pre game shootaround. Yes I actually counted them. Most NBA guys can cash a pile of uncontested jumpshots in a casual atmosphere.

I agree the risk is basically none, my gripe against the Bullock trade is where's the value?



Because they thought they found a sleeper, a steal, etc. He's a euro player that went pro overseas at an early age... he could always just go back. They say in his country he is super famous like Lebron.


Like I said, he was super mediocre in college. If dude didn't sign with LAL, not much of a loss because they would still hold his rights. Which might have actually upped his value if he excelled overseas.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#159 » by SamFlow » Thu Feb 7, 2019 1:07 am

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Like I said, he was super mediocre in college. If dude didn't sign with LAL, not much of a loss because they would still hold his rights. Which might have actually upped his value if he excelled overseas.



With Lebron, they were going for the win this year. They thought he could shine this year making open threes when the rest of the team can't.

either way. agree or not... it is what it is.
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Re: Bullock to Lakers 

Post#160 » by thesack12 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 1:09 am

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With Lebron, they were going for the win this year. They thought he could shine this year making open threes when the rest of the team can't.

either way. agree or not... it is what it is.



If that's what they were envisioning, they must have realized they were wrong on that hope pretty quickly because he barely played for the Lakers.

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