Official Trade Thread -- Part XXXVII

[pcbothwel]

At this point I hope the Porter trade is going down, can't afford to let the Pistons and Heat out tank us.

DEADLINE
Trade 1:
Otto for Bogdan & Randolph... (Green or Dekker could be added if need be, but I'd want a future 2nd)

Trade 2:
Ariza to LAL (Worse of Hou or LAL 1st)
KCP to Houston
Knight, Hartenstein, LAL 2nd, (Better of Hou or LAL 1st)

SUMMER
Trade 3:
Beal to NYK for 2nd/3rd overall pick.... Draft Morant

Trade 4:
Trade our pick (6-8) to Boston for Less favorable of Kings or LAC pick (17/18) and Memphis pick
- At 17, Draft BPA of Little, NAW, Keldon Johnson, Culver, Bol, Hunter, Porter, Fernando
- At 22-24, Draft BPA of any above... or Hayes, Clarke, Herro

Sato / Morant (2) (WALL)
Bogdan
Brown Jr.
Robinson / Clarke (24)
Bryant / Mahinmi / Bol (17)

Build around Morant, Brown, Clarke, Bol, Top 5 2020 pick, Memphis pick

[Ruzious]

Thing is - by including Mahinmi, factor in we'll get one less 1st rounder, and it'll be harder to complete a trade.

Yeah, not sure why we'd bother to dilute Beal's value by including him at that point.

That deal basically signals a tankathon, eating the final year of Ian's deal shouldn't be a concern.

I don't think of it as diluting the value in the trade. I think of the Hayward for Mahinmi swap as additional sweetener to the Bradley for picks part of the deal. Boston is getting Hayward's gargantuan $32M a year payroll off the books, which gives them a lot of flexibility in future AD trades.

It was necessary for us to avoid the luxtax next year. Wall, Hayward, Porter and Mahinmi alone cost $111M. You couldn't even afford Bryant and Sato while avoiding the luxtax. If we're absorbing Hayward, we have to offload Mahinmi.

I really like the deal because I think Hayward will regain his old form in another year. Right now, he doesn't have confidence in his body, and I don't think he has confidence with his role on that team. But put him on this team without any good players and he'll be back to his familiar role in Utah as the primary option on offense. The long term goal would be to goose up his value and then flip him in a year for a smaller contract and even more picks.

I would not focus on dumping the last year of Mahinmi's deal - now that we know - and we do know - we're not competing for anything next season. We should be able to avoid the lux tax without doing anything about Ian. Our focus should be on acquiring more draft picks. Directly or indirectly, trading Mahinmi is going to cost us in that regard.

[Sactowndog]

Yuck! I would rather have Ferrell and Jackson than Shumpert or McLemore. Ferrell would be our backup PG and Jackson our back SG next year. Yeah, big hole at SF/PF.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2819318-last-minute-predictions-for-nbas-biggest-trade-deadline-targets

If the Kings package the expiring deals of Zach Randolph, Iman Shumpert, Ben McLemore and Willie Cauley-Stein while taking back Porter and Ian Mahinmi, the Wizards could clear a whopping $42.7 million off next year's books.

Get it done, Wizards.

I think it's an interesting deal. It's not about the players we get back. It's about using Porter to dump Mahinmi.

My first thought is that I might do it, if Sacramento included their 2019 2nd round pick. But then I thought it through and I became a little less enthused. The deal would leave us with just 4 players under contract: Wall, Beal, Brown and Howard, at a cost of $61M. Add in our first round pick, let's say it's Darius Garland, and that's $64M. We could resign Sato and Bryant for a combined $18M or so, which gets us up to $82M for the following roster:

PG Sato/Garland
SG Beal/Garland
SF Brown
PF
C Bryant/Howard

We'd have $28M in cap room leftover, but what exactly do we do with it? That's not enough for a max player (who could be a bargain) so instead we are bidding in a frothy market with a lot of money chasing a limited number of free agents. We'd probably get stuck resigning Ariza on a 2-year $30M deal, and then using the remaining $13M to round out the depth, hopefully landing Green in the process. So it's:

PG Sato/Garland
SG Beal/Garland
SF Ariza/Brown
PF Green/Ariza
C Bryant/Howard

At a payroll of $110M. That's not awful, but not really exciting. The thing is, we could have the same basic team without making that SAC trade, only with a 26-year-old Porter in place of a 35-year old Ariza. Our cap number would be more like $135M, but that's right around the luxtax threshold, and there would be relief in site as Mahinmi comes off the books in the following year.

Did you forget about WCS? He would be a restricted free agent which you would most likely match.

[nate33]

Did you forget about WCS? He would be a restricted free agent which you would most likely match.

Fair point. It depends on the price. I'm not sure he's a starting caliber player in this league. Or rather, if he starts, he's a guy you'd be looking to upgrade.

[nate33]

Yeah, not sure why we'd bother to dilute Beal's value by including him at that point.

That deal basically signals a tankathon, eating the final year of Ian's deal shouldn't be a concern.

I don't think of it as diluting the value in the trade. I think of the Hayward for Mahinmi swap as additional sweetener to the Bradley for picks part of the deal. Boston is getting Hayward's gargantuan $32M a year payroll off the books, which gives them a lot of flexibility in future AD trades.

It was necessary for us to avoid the luxtax next year. Wall, Hayward, Porter and Mahinmi alone cost $111M. You couldn't even afford Bryant and Sato while avoiding the luxtax. If we're absorbing Hayward, we have to offload Mahinmi.

I really like the deal because I think Hayward will regain his old form in another year. Right now, he doesn't have confidence in his body, and I don't think he has confidence with his role on that team. But put him on this team without any good players and he'll be back to his familiar role in Utah as the primary option on offense. The long term goal would be to goose up his value and then flip him in a year for a smaller contract and even more picks.

I would not focus on dumping the last year of Mahinmi's deal - now that we know - and we do know - we're not competing for anything next season. We should be able to avoid the lux tax without doing anything about Ian. Our focus should be on acquiring more draft picks. Directly or indirectly, trading Mahinmi is going to cost us in that regard.

Another consideration is that there are only so many picks we can extract from Boston in this deal. They need to keep some for their Anthony Davis trade. By including Mahinmi, at least we get more value out of the transaction.

I'm thinking I'd do the trade if Boston gave us the MEM pick, the SAC pick and two future 2nds. That still leaves the LAC pick and all of Boston's picks to trade for AD.

[nate33]

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Selling low, as usual.

[pcbothwel]

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What in the Hell?!?

[gambitx777]

https://hoopshype.com/rumor/1236751/

If EG can pull something out with the way ariza and green are playing it won't look like it makes us worse honestly !

[nate33]

Well, Beal is sure to be shopped now. He's not going to want to stick around for this.

We are officially rebuilding. The only problem is that it appears that EG is still at the helm.

[gambitx777]

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What in the Hell?!?

Better be picks involved ................ All I'm saying.

[WallStar]

Not a terrible trade but I'm thinking it's only done because this gives us the flexibility to resign Sato and Bryant

[WallStar]

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What in the Hell?!?

Better be picks involved ................ All I'm saying.

I'm hearing 2nd in '23

[gambitx777]

Not a terrible trade but I'm thinking it's only done because this gives us the flexibility to resign Sato and Bryant

Resigning Parker or restructuring his deal is also an option ? His last year had no garuntes . He's 23 and at a cheaper contract he might be a good keep

[Dark Faze]

Not a terrible trade but I'm thinking it's only done because this gives us the flexibility to resign Sato and Bryant

Resigning Parker or restructuring his deal is also an option ? His last year had no garuntes . He's 23 and at a cheaper contract he might be a good keep

he's pretty clearly not good

The Bucks are a team that can't get anyone there to save their lives and they didn't extend him. He goes to his hometown in Chicago who have nothing to really do with their capspace and they dump him.

Portis is likely the only guy who has a chance to be here next year.

[gambitx777]

Parker is not as bad as people make him out too be. He's not going to get overpaid again. 5 or less mill a year! I'd keep him for that!

[Induveca]

Parker is not as bad as people make him out too be. He's not going to get overpaid again. 5 or less mill a year! I'd keep him for that!

Don’t disagree at all......he can provide a decent scoring punch off the bench on a bargain contract. But I hope it won’t be for the Wizards.

[pcbothwel]

2.5M above the lux tax.... my best guess would be

Kieff to OKC for Patterson
Ariza for KCP

[youngWizzy]

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[80sballboy]

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Why?

[NatP4]

What?