FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc

Jose7 · Post #1481 » by **Jose7** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:58 am

god shammgod wrote:the thing i hate about trading for ad is that just to make salaries match, we have to give up a lot of young talent. if we were to get zion, who i would rather just keep, you shouldn't have to give up much more. but you have to match his salary and the only salaries we have are all our young players on rookie deals.

knicks would be crazy to trade Zion for anyone not named Giannis especially on a rookie scale deal.

hypothetically of course.

knickstape4ever · Post #1482 » by **knickstape4ever** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:58 am

Jose7 wrote:imagine waking up and AD was traded for Kanter, the youth, and a top 1 protected 2019..

nah..perry you aint low.

better leave Mitch and my pick out of all discussions.

if I could leave 2 players out of the deal it would be DSJ (even more so now that rumors have Kyrie liking LA and BKN) and Mitch (he's gonna be a stud; already is on a per-36 min basis lol)

Knicksin2011 · Post #1483 » by **Knicksin2011** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:58 am

imagine waking up and AD was traded for Kanter, the youth, and a top 1 protected 2019..

nah..perry you aint low.

better leave Mitch and my pick out of all discussions

Not so worried about Mitch if AD is here.

Jose7 · Post #1484 » by **Jose7** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:59 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
Jose7 wrote:imagine waking up and AD was traded for Kanter, the youth, and a top 1 protected 2019..

nah..perry you aint low.

better leave Mitch and my pick out of all discussions.

if I could leave 2 players out of the deal it would be DSJ (even more so now that rumors have Kyrie liking LA and BKN) and Mitch (he's gonna be a stud; already is on a per-36 min basis lol)

cant package DS Jr in a multi player deal? true?

CBA heads..

F N 11 · Post #1485 » by **F N 11** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:59 am

Do not trade our youth for AD please lord.

SARGO127 · Post #1486 » by **SARGO127** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:59 am

SARGO127 wrote:Kanter
Dotson
Trier
Frank
Knox
Knicks 20
Knicks 21
Knicks 23
Mavs 23
For AD

Gives us ..

DSJ - Rubio
Reddish or Barrett or Culver
KD
AD
Jordan - Mitch

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #1487 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:59 am

SARGO127 wrote:I’m beginning to think we need to trade for him now.

What happens if he walks in 2020?

Post #1488 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:59 am

SmoothLefty21 wrote:I'm all in on Kyrie if he's our #2. Pair him with AD or KD. I know he's got injury concerns and has other issues on and off the court but the dude is an absolute killer/gamer/clutch guy who loves the big moment plus we need a guard to pair with our #1. He's the only elite backcourt FA. I wouldn't be nearly as hyped if we got two wings or AD/wing.

All 3. We need to do all 3.

Tron Carter · Post #1489 » by **Tron Carter** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:59 am

go get AD

all the youth minus money mitch, THE pick, and both dallas first rounders.

SARGO127 · Post #1490 » by **SARGO127** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 2:59 am

Jose7 wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
Jose7 wrote:imagine waking up and AD was traded for Kanter, the youth, and a top 1 protected 2019..

nah..perry you aint low.

better leave Mitch and my pick out of all discussions.

if I could leave 2 players out of the deal it would be DSJ (even more so now that rumors have Kyrie liking LA and BKN) and Mitch (he's gonna be a stud; already is on a per-36 min basis lol)

cant package DS Jr in a multi player deal? true?

CBA heads..

True - would have to split the deal into 2

SARGO127 · Post #1491 » by **SARGO127** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:00 am

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
SARGO127 wrote:I’m beginning to think we need to trade for him now.

What happens if he walks in 2020?

He won’t walk away from a title contender in NYC with KD +

cuyankees · Post #1492 » by **cuyankees** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:01 am

SARGO127 wrote:I’m beginning to think we need to trade for him now.

And pull a Magic and bid against ourselves?

Best time is the summer when order is known and most importantly, you can team AD up w 72mn $ of cap goodness.

DaGawd · Post #1493 » by **DaGawd** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:01 am

Fk it... trade the whole damn farm except Mitch for AD

Post #1494 » by **K_ick_God** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:01 am

Who is that? Doesn’t sound familiar. We don’t have a Mitch on our roster to my knowledge, but I’ll double check.

VirginiaKnickFan · Post #1495 » by **VirginiaKnickFan** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:01 am

SARGO127 wrote:
VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
SARGO127 wrote:I’m beginning to think we need to trade for him now.

What happens if he walks in 2020?

He won’t walk away from a title contender in NYC with KD +

Who knows.

drekwins · Post #1496 » by **drekwins** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:01 am

SARGO127 wrote:I’m beginning to think we need to trade for him now.

IMO, I wish we had more leverage... but it's the most risk-averse way of ensuring that we don't strike out. If Kawhi is really 100% on LAC and Boston gets AD, then we're toast:

LAC - Kawhi
BOS - AD, Kyrie will re-sign

Then, there's only Kemba (who may sign the supermax), KD and Butler (gross). KD is not coming to NY alone. IDC what anyone says. There's no chance. I think he'd go to LAC.

Getting AD out of Boston's grasp is the only way to guarantee our fate. Kyrie is not resigning if we get AD... no chance... and Durant is a lock if AD comes. We'd have a real shot at both (even if they have to take a pay-cut).

I'd much rather have AD locked in and become a favorite for KD and/or Kyrie than strike out completely... esp to Boston

Context · Post #1497 » by **Context** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:01 am

Jose7 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:the thing i hate about trading for ad is that just to make salaries match, we have to give up a lot of young talent. if we were to get zion, who i would rather just keep, you shouldn't have to give up much more. but you have to match his salary and the only salaries we have are all our young players on rookie deals.

knicks would be crazy to trade Zion for anyone not named Giannis especially on a rookie scale deal.

hypothetically of course.

good point- Giannis is the one guy I would trade Zion for...

god shammgod · Post #1498 » by **god shammgod** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:02 am

Jose7 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:the thing i hate about trading for ad is that just to make salaries match, we have to give up a lot of young talent. if we were to get zion, who i would rather just keep, you shouldn't have to give up much more. but you have to match his salary and the only salaries we have are all our young players on rookie deals.

knicks would be crazy to trade Zion for anyone not named Giannis especially on a rookie scale deal.

hypothetically of course.

i agree, it's not what i would do. if durant and kyrie wanna come play with zion, cool. if not, continue the rebuild around him. the idea that you would have to give up frank, ds jr and knox too seems like an overpay as crazy as it seems. but i think you would have to.

will34 · Post #1499 » by **will34** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:02 am

Give up the youth..it's AD. Knox ain't all that.

Post #1500 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:02 am

god shammgod wrote:the thing i hate about trading for ad is that just to make salaries match, we have to give up a lot of young talent. if we were to get zion, who i would rather just keep, you shouldn't have to give up much more. but you have to match his salary and the only salaries we have are all our young players on rookie deals.

its a tough discussion because here's the thing. Zion at best is a 14% chance (at best). If we don't get the #1 pick the rest of these guys in the draft are meh...do you take that risk now?