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Re: FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc 

Post#1661 » by Garbagelo » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:36 am

Context wrote:
pwayknicks wrote:Mavs shed Barnes contract without giving up anything . We gave up kp to shed one fml


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CONTEXT!

we did not dump KP to clear space...


the context is KP is worth a gamble for any team and he is a much much better player, potentially franchise talent
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Post#1662 » by pwayknicks » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:37 am

Context wrote:
pwayknicks wrote:Mavs shed Barnes contract without giving up anything . We gave up kp to shed one fml


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CONTEXT!

we did not dump KP to clear space...


It was a horrible deal come on. And it’s looking even worse seeing there are teams buying guys for expiring contracts


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Re: FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc 

Post#1663 » by K_ick_God » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:37 am

Pelicans did it for a pick.
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Re: FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc 

Post#1664 » by K_ick_God » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:37 am

Garbagelo wrote:
Context wrote:
pwayknicks wrote:Mavs shed Barnes contract without giving up anything . We gave up kp to shed one fml


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CONTEXT!

we did not dump KP to clear space...


the context is KP is worth a gamble for any team and he is a much much better player, potentially franchise talent


Isn’t Barnes expiring?
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Re: FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc 

Post#1665 » by Garbagelo » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:38 am

pwayknicks wrote:
Context wrote:
pwayknicks wrote:Mavs shed Barnes contract without giving up anything . We gave up kp to shed one fml


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CONTEXT!

we did not dump KP to clear space...


It was a horrible deal come on. And it’s looking even worse seeing there are teams buying guys for expiring contracts


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People are not doing any critical thinking in here.

It's quite clear we got robbed and even had to take our pants down and bend over.
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Re: FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc 

Post#1666 » by Garbagelo » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:38 am

KnicksGod wrote:
Garbagelo wrote:
Context wrote:CONTEXT!

we did not dump KP to clear space...


the context is KP is worth a gamble for any team and he is a much much better player, potentially franchise talent


Isn’t Barnes expiring?


he has a 25 million player option
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Post#1667 » by god shammgod » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:38 am

barnes is actually a two way player with one less year on his deal. timmy is not. lee didn't play for the mavs at all tonight. will he ? who knows ?
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Re: FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc 

Post#1668 » by kej718 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:41 am

https://hoopshype.com/2019/02/04/deandre-jordan-kevin-durant-new-york-knicks-news-rumors-updates/

Knicks 'intend to keep' DeAndre Jordan potentially to recruit KD

The New York Knicks traded Kristaps Porzingis for a package that included DeAndre Jordan, who may actually help them land Kevin Durant.

Brian Windhorst mentioned that New York plans to keep the two-time NBA rebounding leader, though many have expected Jordan to end up as a buyout candidate (via ESPN):

“One thing I’ll say about the Knicks: they’re making it look like they intend to keep DeAndre Jordan. You can extrapolate this out: [He] has a relationship with Kevin Durant. Although I don’t know how [the Knicks can retain the big man]. I mean, they can’t keep him at any real number.”

The Knicks can retain the 2017 NBA All-Star by bringing him back on a $27.47 million deal next season. That would drop their projected cap space from $74.6 million to $47.1 million.

It would mean that instead of having enough room for two max salaries this offseason, they would have the money to spend on just one. Instead of being able to sign both Durant and Kyrie Irving, the Knicks would only have the ability to sign just one or the other.

This changes, however, if they let him go and he becomes an unrestricted free agent this offseason. Perhaps, though this idea is definitely a long shot, Jordan would be willing to take a significant discount to play alongside his friend Durant.

Another thing to watch: while DeAndre Jordan also has a large expiring contract, and thus could be a buyout candidate, he's also good friends with Kevin Durant – whom the Knicks are hoping to land as a free agent this summer.

— Tim Bontemps (@TimBontemps) January 31, 2019

Marc Stein is the most recent to float such a theory (via New York Times):

“It is widely expected that both players [Wes Matthews and Jordan] will seek contract buyouts from the Knicks if they are not traded again before the deadline so they can seek roster spots with playoff-bound teams for the remainder of the season. Yet it should be noted that Jordan is one of Durant’s closest friends, which might factor into where he wants to be in the months ahead.”

It is hard to imagine a scenario where the front office in New York would sacrifice the coveted cap space that Jordan would command.

But if they could somehow keep the former Los Angeles Clippers and Dallas Mavericks center on the Knicks, it would be a big win for the organization. It would give them more time to let Mitchell Robinson develop, offering their recent second-round pick a mentor who has had longterm NBA success.

ESPN’s Zach Lowe has previously described Jordan as someone “a lot of people would like to play with” around the league. As a recruiting chip, he could potentially be a big-time help for New York.

DeAndre Jordan, who was just traded to the New York Knicks, is "close pals" with upcoming free agent Kevin Durant. Here is a little collage that I made last offseason documenting their friendship.

I guess any little recruiting pitch to get KD would help, right? #NewYorkForever pic.twitter.com/UlpjitYgpd

— Bryan Kalbrosky (@BryanKalbrosky) January 31, 2019

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How do they keep him and give out 2 max contracts?
any GM experts can explain this to some of us that know nothing about how the cap works, will Dolan just go over cause it's KD?
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Re: FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc 

Post#1669 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:41 am

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Re: FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc 

Post#1670 » by cuyankees » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:42 am

Garbagelo wrote:
pwayknicks wrote:
Context wrote:CONTEXT!

we did not dump KP to clear space...


It was a horrible deal come on. And it’s looking even worse seeing there are teams buying guys for expiring contracts


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People are not doing any critical thinking in here.

It's quite clear we got robbed and even had to take our pants down and bend over.

If you did some critical thinking, you’d know that NYK got 5 FRPs in value + DSJ.
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Re: FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc 

Post#1671 » by Context » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:42 am

Garbagelo wrote:
pwayknicks wrote:
Context wrote:CONTEXT!

we did not dump KP to clear space...


It was a horrible deal come on. And it’s looking even worse seeing there are teams buying guys for expiring contracts


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People are not doing any critical thinking in here.

It's quite clear we got robbed and even had to take our pants down and bend over.

Excuse me?!

So Mr critical thinker...Did you have any issue with Janis or KP's behavior? First question...
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Post#1672 » by Juggynaut » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:43 am

Sacramento actually wants Harrison Barnes, nobody is gonna take on Timmy or Lee without us giving something of value.
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Post#1673 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:44 am

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Post#1674 » by duetta » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:46 am

Conceivably, if they got the first pick, Durant might want to come based on the projected upside of Zion (with the combination of Jordan and Zion taking away any need for Durant to ever rebound...).
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Post#1675 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:46 am

everything has been quiet on the AD front since those Marc Stein tweets...maybe the calm before the storm?
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Post#1676 » by Knick4Real » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:47 am

Well, with all the arguing, this thread will end up locked soon! :noway:
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Post#1677 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:47 am

Garbagelo wrote:
pwayknicks wrote:
Context wrote:CONTEXT!

we did not dump KP to clear space...


It was a horrible deal come on. And it’s looking even worse seeing there are teams buying guys for expiring contracts


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People are not doing any critical thinking in here.

It's quite clear we got robbed and even had to take our pants down and bend over.


I do think you're being critical, but I don't see the thinking part
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Post#1678 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:47 am

kej718 wrote:https://hoopshype.com/2019/02/04/deandre-jordan-kevin-durant-new-york-knicks-news-rumors-updates/

Knicks 'intend to keep' DeAndre Jordan potentially to recruit KD

The New York Knicks traded Kristaps Porzingis for a package that included DeAndre Jordan, who may actually help them land Kevin Durant.

Brian Windhorst mentioned that New York plans to keep the two-time NBA rebounding leader, though many have expected Jordan to end up as a buyout candidate (via ESPN):

“One thing I’ll say about the Knicks: they’re making it look like they intend to keep DeAndre Jordan. You can extrapolate this out: [He] has a relationship with Kevin Durant. Although I don’t know how [the Knicks can retain the big man]. I mean, they can’t keep him at any real number.”

The Knicks can retain the 2017 NBA All-Star by bringing him back on a $27.47 million deal next season. That would drop their projected cap space from $74.6 million to $47.1 million.

It would mean that instead of having enough room for two max salaries this offseason, they would have the money to spend on just one. Instead of being able to sign both Durant and Kyrie Irving, the Knicks would only have the ability to sign just one or the other.

This changes, however, if they let him go and he becomes an unrestricted free agent this offseason. Perhaps, though this idea is definitely a long shot, Jordan would be willing to take a significant discount to play alongside his friend Durant.

Another thing to watch: while DeAndre Jordan also has a large expiring contract, and thus could be a buyout candidate, he's also good friends with Kevin Durant – whom the Knicks are hoping to land as a free agent this summer.

— Tim Bontemps (@TimBontemps) January 31, 2019

Marc Stein is the most recent to float such a theory (via New York Times):

“It is widely expected that both players [Wes Matthews and Jordan] will seek contract buyouts from the Knicks if they are not traded again before the deadline so they can seek roster spots with playoff-bound teams for the remainder of the season. Yet it should be noted that Jordan is one of Durant’s closest friends, which might factor into where he wants to be in the months ahead.”

It is hard to imagine a scenario where the front office in New York would sacrifice the coveted cap space that Jordan would command.

But if they could somehow keep the former Los Angeles Clippers and Dallas Mavericks center on the Knicks, it would be a big win for the organization. It would give them more time to let Mitchell Robinson develop, offering their recent second-round pick a mentor who has had longterm NBA success.

ESPN’s Zach Lowe has previously described Jordan as someone “a lot of people would like to play with” around the league. As a recruiting chip, he could potentially be a big-time help for New York.

DeAndre Jordan, who was just traded to the New York Knicks, is "close pals" with upcoming free agent Kevin Durant. Here is a little collage that I made last offseason documenting their friendship.

I guess any little recruiting pitch to get KD would help, right? #NewYorkForever pic.twitter.com/UlpjitYgpd

— Bryan Kalbrosky (@BryanKalbrosky) January 31, 2019

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How do they keep him and give out 2 max contracts?
any GM experts can explain this to some of us that know nothing about how the cap works, will Dolan just go over cause it's KD?


Yea this is a pretty bad take. If Durant comes here, its not for Deandre whos not even under contract here.
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Post#1679 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:51 am

I think this is all spin so we can get value for deandre before 3PM. Sure we’ll keep him if we can’t find a suitor.
But the lovefest seems very deliberate and forced.
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Re: FA/Trade Rumors & Discussion - Durant, Kyrie, AD, etc 

Post#1680 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Feb 7, 2019 4:54 am

Whats interesting about the AD trade talks is that the only offers that have been made public are from the Lakers
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