Buyouts

[Fencer reregistered]

Can’t give up Tatum and Brown unless he signs an extension. Can we do a S&T?

Uhhhhh....you 100% give up Tatum and Brown regardless of him signing an extension

Ainge is a loser if his does this. He offered the picks that are Smart, Rozier, Brown, and Tatum (as well as several other picks) in exchange for Anthony Davis when this rebuild started. To hand those players over now with more picks as if it was the same price to be paid is a total bitch move. To do it with nothing but one year left on his contract is pathetic. If Ainge includes Brown and Tatum in a deal for Davis he deserves to get turned out like he most likely will.

Could you imagine Pat Riley making that trade?

Considering what he paid for Goren Dragic, Riley is perhaps not the best example you could have chosen to make your point.

[ermocrate]

I would not include Tatum, if developed properly he can be better than AD in 3-4 years. At this stage I would be a little more worried about cashing Rozier Morris and Baynes tho.

[Homerclease]

Can’t give up Tatum and Brown unless he signs an extension. Can we do a S&T?

Uhhhhh....you 100% give up Tatum and Brown regardless of him signing an extension

Ainge is a loser if his does this. He offered the picks that are Smart, Rozier, Brown, and Tatum (as well as several other picks) in exchange for Anthony Davis when this rebuild started. To hand those players over now with more picks as if it was the same price to be paid is a total bitch move. To do it with nothing but one year left on his contract is pathetic. If Ainge includes Brown and Tatum in a deal for Davis he deserves to get turned out like he most likely will.

Could you imagine Pat Riley making that trade?

If acquiring a top 5 player in this league in his prime makes Ainge a loser than so be it. Get him here, watch us win and see if he still wants to leave

[Homerclease]

I would not include Tatum, if developed properly he can be better than AD in 3-4 years. At this stage I would be a little more worried about cashing Rozier Morris and Baynes tho.

In 3-4 years AD could very well be the best player in all of basketball. Him or Giannis

[Gooner]

Uhhhhh....you 100% give up Tatum and Brown regardless of him signing an extension

Ainge is a loser if his does this. He offered the picks that are Smart, Rozier, Brown, and Tatum (as well as several other picks) in exchange for Anthony Davis when this rebuild started. To hand those players over now with more picks as if it was the same price to be paid is a total bitch move. To do it with nothing but one year left on his contract is pathetic. If Ainge includes Brown and Tatum in a deal for Davis he deserves to get turned out like he most likely will.

Could you imagine Pat Riley making that trade?

If acquiring a top 5 player in this league in his prime makes Ainge a loser than so be it. Get him here, watch us win and see if he still wants to leave

He is not a top 5 player, and he doesn't guarantee wins, New Orleans is a proof of that. Celtics would have to win a championship for him to consider staying, otherwise, he is gone.

[Homerclease]

Ainge is a loser if his does this. He offered the picks that are Smart, Rozier, Brown, and Tatum (as well as several other picks) in exchange for Anthony Davis when this rebuild started. To hand those players over now with more picks as if it was the same price to be paid is a total bitch move. To do it with nothing but one year left on his contract is pathetic. If Ainge includes Brown and Tatum in a deal for Davis he deserves to get turned out like he most likely will.

Could you imagine Pat Riley making that trade?

If acquiring a top 5 player in this league in his prime makes Ainge a loser than so be it. Get him here, watch us win and see if he still wants to leave

He is not a top 5 player, and he doesn't guarantee wins, New Orleans is a proof of that. Celtics would have to win a championship for him to consider staying, otherwise, he is gone.

Disagree on all points

[Dannyboy36]

Someone mentioned ( maybe it was here, maybe the radio) that KG didn’t make the playoffs his last 3 seasons with Minnesota. KG is certainly a “winner.”

[Gooner]

Someone mentioned ( maybe it was here, maybe the radio) that KG didn’t make the playoffs his last 3 seasons with Minnesota. KG is certainly a “winner.”

AD has help, that's the difference. Jrue Holiday is better than any current Celtic player, apart form Kyrie. Randle is one of the best power forwards in the game, and Mirotic is a great shooter.

[KGtabake]

I would get Zach Randolph to have one more big body against guys like Embiid and Cousins and be able to protect Baynes in foul trouble.

[Green89]

I would get Zach Randolph to have one more big body against guys like Embiid and Cousins and be able to protect Baynes in foul trouble.

I don't believe he's suited up at all this year.

I'd rather get Kief. You know he'll go to battle alongside his brother in the playoffs.

[Gooner]

I would get Zach Randolph to have one more big body against guys like Embiid and Cousins and be able to protect Baynes in foul trouble.

I don't believe he's suited up at all this year.

I'd rather get Kief. You know he'll go to battle alongside his brother in the playoffs.

Having both of them on same team would be too much. They are both hot heads.

[ermocrate]

I would not include Tatum, if developed properly he can be better than AD in 3-4 years. At this stage I would be a little more worried about cashing Rozier Morris and Baynes tho.

In 3-4 years AD could very well be the best player in all of basketball. Him or Giannis

Giannis walks a lot and shots very bad until I can see he can play without those woes I don’t even consider him and he was out of the discussion. AD has a great skill set, not much personality, it’s really hard to learn that, Tatum has a really solid technical base and has already shown a “closer” mentality. He has to work is A-off to get over AD but he has the possibility.

[ermocrate]

Someone mentioned ( maybe it was here, maybe the radio) that KG didn’t make the playoffs his last 3 seasons with Minnesota. KG is certainly a “winner.”

Well KG also reach the WCF with and ugly ass team.

[Homerclease]

I would not include Tatum, if developed properly he can be better than AD in 3-4 years. At this stage I would be a little more worried about cashing Rozier Morris and Baynes tho.

In 3-4 years AD could very well be the best player in all of basketball. Him or Giannis

Giannis walks a lot and shots very bad until I can see he can play without those woes I don’t even consider him and he was out of the discussion. AD has a great skill set, not much personality, it’s really hard to learn that, Tatum has a really solid technical base and has already shown a “closer” mentality. He has to work is A-off to get over AD but he has the possibility.

Giannis is the best player on the team with the best record in basketball and is what, 23? If not for Harden, he’s likely the MVP this year

[Gooner]

In 3-4 years AD could very well be the best player in all of basketball. Him or Giannis

Giannis walks a lot and shots very bad until I can see he can play without those woes I don’t even consider him and he was out of the discussion. AD has a great skill set, not much personality, it’s really hard to learn that, Tatum has a really solid technical base and has already shown a “closer” mentality. He has to work is A-off to get over AD but he has the possibility.

Giannis is the best player on the team with the best record in basketball and is what, 23? If not for Harden, he’s likely the MVP this year

That doesn't change the fact that he walks A LOT, and shoots very bad, just like he said.

[Homerclease]

Giannis walks a lot and shots very bad until I can see he can play without those woes I don’t even consider him and he was out of the discussion. AD has a great skill set, not much personality, it’s really hard to learn that, Tatum has a really solid technical base and has already shown a “closer” mentality. He has to work is A-off to get over AD but he has the possibility.

Giannis is the best player on the team with the best record in basketball and is what, 23? If not for Harden, he’s likely the MVP this year

That doesn't change the fact that he walks A LOT, and shoots very bad, just like he said.

And he’s still incredible

[Gooner]

Giannis is the best player on the team with the best record in basketball and is what, 23? If not for Harden, he’s likely the MVP this year

That doesn't change the fact that he walks A LOT, and shoots very bad, just like he said.

And he’s still incredible

Being allowed to travel so much, actually makes him less amazing, but i don't wanna digress, everybody has a preference.

[Andrew McCeltic]

The Pelicans won 48 games last year, and they were 21-13 after Cousins got hurt. That's with Rondo, Jrue, half a season of Cousins and half a season of Mirotic.

This year, the issue is injuries. They weren't built for the long term, and Davis still would've asked out - probably not until the summer. But Payton, Jrue, Hill, Mirotic, Davis, with Randle and Moore off the bench, could've won 45-55.

Swap Davis for any other star player in the league - Kyrie, Harden, Giannis, Curry or Durant, Lebron, Embiid, Kawhi - give them this year's team with all the injuries - and who makes the Pelicans better? Maybe Lebron or Harden, with their passing.

And how many teams, trading their best player for Davis, would be significantly worse? Maybe Denver, Golden State or Milwaukee, only because those rosters are built to their best players' strengths.

[brackdan70]

Can’t give up Tatum and Brown unless he signs an extension. Can we do a S&T?

Uhhhhh....you 100% give up Tatum and Brown regardless of him signing an extension

Ainge is a loser if his does this. He offered the picks that are Smart, Rozier, Brown, and Tatum (as well as several other picks) in exchange for Anthony Davis when this rebuild started. To hand those players over now with more picks as if it was the same price to be paid is a total bitch move. To do it with nothing but one year left on his contract is pathetic. If Ainge includes Brown and Tatum in a deal for Davis he deserves to get turned out like he most likely will.

Could you imagine Pat Riley making that trade?

I expect Tatum would be the center piece and that’s understandable. The additional Value would come from picks...Sac pick, wait until after that player is signed so salary counts, Memphis pick and what ever others they want. I wouldn’t want to include Smart if it could be avoided. Could use a Rozier S and T for some Salary if he is agreeable. MLE guy and Yabu get close to adequate Salary.

Including Brown and Tatum gives me a little pause but would rather include Brown than Smart at this point...

Any offer with Tatum will be tough for other teams to beat I think.

[TheOGJabroni]

Someone mentioned ( maybe it was here, maybe the radio) that KG didn’t make the playoffs his last 3 seasons with Minnesota. KG is certainly a “winner.”

AD has help, that's the difference. Jrue Holiday is better than any current Celtic player, apart form Kyrie. Randle is one of the best power forwards in the game, and Mirotic is a great shooter.

I'll give you Jrue being a very good player, but using Randle & Mirotic as examples of his "help" is not great. Regardless of their stats, those two are far from great. That's a high scoring team so the scoring has to come from somewhere. They put up the empty numbers, not Davis, IMO.