Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer?

Optms · Post #41 » by **Optms** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:28 pm

Depends on if the Knicks get the first pick and offer him in a trade.

I don't trust Ainge. And I can't believe that Demps doesn't see what's going on here. He's so salty about Rich Paul and Lebron that he can't even see whats happening in front of him. Ainge is just using Tatum's name to take AD off the market until the Summer because he knows once he's in LA, that contract extension is on lock. I think his agenda is very clear. He has no intention on offering Tatum and I also can't believe so many others think he will.

Edug27 · Post #42 » by **Edug27** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:29 pm

kobe808lak wrote:I'm shocked people actually thing Ainge is going to trade Tatum and all their picks for a rental. I think NO is in for a rude awakening. It will be to a team not mentioned yet for a weird return... and probably in the East.

It. Will. Happen.

timO · Post #43 » by **timO** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:29 pm

There will not be better offer in the summer.

See Leonard, George cases...

Gooner · Post #44 » by **Gooner** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:30 pm

Edug27 wrote:
kobe808lak wrote:I'm shocked people actually thing Ainge is going to trade Tatum and all their picks for a rental. I think NO is in for a rude awakening. It will be to a team not mentioned yet for a weird return... and probably in the East.

It. Will. Happen.

You're trying to speak it into existence, like Lavar. :lol:

NBAFan93 · Post #45 » by **NBAFan93** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:31 pm

Edug27 wrote:
kobe808lak wrote:I'm shocked people actually thing Ainge is going to trade Tatum and all their picks for a rental. I think NO is in for a rude awakening. It will be to a team not mentioned yet for a weird return... and probably in the East.

It. Will. Happen.

Him going to the East is a good thing for everyone.

Ballerhogger · Post #46 » by **Ballerhogger** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:31 pm

Yes because the cs wont give up tatum

Edug27 · Post #47 » by **Edug27** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:32 pm

Gooner wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
kobe808lak wrote:I'm shocked people actually thing Ainge is going to trade Tatum and all their picks for a rental. I think NO is in for a rude awakening. It will be to a team not mentioned yet for a weird return... and probably in the East.

It. Will. Happen.

You're trying to speak it into existence, like Lavar.

Lol. I don't know if the trade will happen, but I'm confident Danny will offer Tatum and all the picks.

jlokine · Post #48 » by **jlokine** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:32 pm

no, cause there's nothing the lakers have that's worth AD... they sucked last year without LeBron.. and with LeBron, it makes their picks suck.. it would be like rob babcock taking on a bag of balls for vince carter just for the sake of making a trade..

Jon1798 · Post #49 » by **Jon1798** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:33 pm

vxmike wrote:
Jon1798 wrote:
PZiv wrote:Apart from Memphis pick, other Boston picks are devalued hard, Sacramento is pushing its pick to bottom of lottery/out of it, Clippers will contend next season.
Jerry West’s 4D trade of Harris is deteoriating Boston position.
At this point its Tatum+ or no go.

That King’s pick you are so quick to bash is probably better than every Lakers pick being offered.

Did you realize the Kings are above the Lakers in th standing right now?

You realize the Lakers would be acquiring Anthony Davis?

kobe808lak · Post #50 » by **kobe808lak** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:33 pm

Gooner wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
kobe808lak wrote:I'm shocked people actually thing Ainge is going to trade Tatum and all their picks for a rental. I think NO is in for a rude awakening. It will be to a team not mentioned yet for a weird return... and probably in the East.

It. Will. Happen.

You're trying to speak it into existence, like Lavar.

Was thinking the same thing

Curmudgeon · Post #51 » by **Curmudgeon** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:34 pm

Lakers will make the same offer in the Summer-- maybe even a better offer when picks and swap rights are taken into account. In fact, the Lakers could sweeten the offer today and it might be accepted.

Pacernation · Post #52 » by **Pacernation** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:34 pm

Of course not. There will be better offers than a bunch of bad picks and players that haven't produced yet.

13th Man · Post #53 » by **13th Man** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:37 pm

The Pelicans will not get any offers as remotely good as the Lakers offer. Why? Because Klutch (Lebron) and AD are in a contractual position of leverage and can greatly influence the strength of the offers.

The AD camp are saying that signing anywhere else will end up being a one year rental, obviously this will dissuade other teams from throwing the kitchen sink at the Pelicans as the Lakers have done (to the best of their ability). Do you think Ainge will give up Tatum + a slew of future first knowing this? No chance. He likely won't even offer up Tatum now.

The Pelicans will be crawling back to the Lakers by mid-summer asking to see if the current offer is still on the table. This is my prediction.

Optms · Post #54 » by **Optms** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:38 pm

Edug27 wrote:
Gooner wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
It. Will. Happen.

You're trying to speak it into existence, like Lavar.

Lol. I don't know if the trade will happen, but I'm confident Danny will offer Tatum and all the picks.

Why would he? Kyrie hasn't committed after this season and it's very likely that he isn't coming back. And, with zero confirmation that AD will sign a long term deal (Boston wasn't even on the list of teams put out by his camp) why would he cough up so much for a potential rental? That doesn't sound like Ainge at all. He is too cunning for that.

What I think is going to happen is that Ainge will continue to manipulate Demps into painting the Lakers organization as the Devil and convince them that the lowball offer he's going to throw up will be good for New Orleans.

And because Demps is allowing his emotions to guide his decisions, its probable this happens. AD to Boston for everything but Tatum is a very realistic scenario.

vxmike · Post #55 » by **vxmike** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:40 pm

Jon1798 wrote:
vxmike wrote:
Jon1798 wrote:
That King’s pick you are so quick to bash is probably better than every Lakers pick being offered.

Did you realize the Kings are above the Lakers in th standing right now?

You realize the Lakers would be acquiring Anthony Davis?

His team is 13th right now despite having decent talent. There’s no evidence he would propel the Lakers upwards given that they would lose a ton of non-center depth. Any games he or LBJ missed would likely be a loss

Kordic27 · Post #56 » by **Kordic27** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:42 pm

Ainge will offer Tatum, which is the biggest prize. Ainge has to, or his rep will be totally shot.

13th Man · Post #57 » by **13th Man** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:42 pm

Optms wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
Gooner wrote:
You're trying to speak it into existence, like Lavar.

Lol. I don't know if the trade will happen, but I'm confident Danny will offer Tatum and all the picks.

Why would he? Kyrie hasn't committed after this season and it's very likely that he isn't coming back. And, with zero confirmation that AD will sign a long term deal (Boston wasn't even on the list of teams put out by his camp) why would he cough up so much for a potential rental? That doesn't sound like Ainge at all. He is too cunning for that.

What I think is going to happen is that Ainge will continue to manipulate Demps into painting the Lakers organization as the Devil and convince them that the lowball offer he's going to throw up will be good for New Orleans.

And because Demps is allowing his emotions to guide his decisions, its probable this happens. AD to Boston for everything but Tatum is a very realistic scenario.

Damn, you may be right. I hadn't fully taken into consideration the shrewdness of Danny Ainge. Demps might just get bent over to make the decision based on emotion rather than logic and practicality.

Archx · Post #58 » by **Archx** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:44 pm

Kordic27 wrote:Ainge will offer Tatum, which is the biggest prize. Ainge has to, or his rep will be totally shot.

Why would he give up his future franchise player for a 1 year rental? What do you think BOS will achieve by doing this. And that's something a lot of people conveniently decide to ignore when they troll the LAL. Have a feeling that at the end Lakers will be the ones who will be laughing.

Shoe · Post #59 » by **Shoe** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:46 pm

Demps understands one Tatum for the next 6 years is better than the combination of Lakers young players, quality over quantity.

Edug27 · Post #60 » by **Edug27** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 3:49 pm

Optms wrote:
Edug27 wrote:
Gooner wrote:
You're trying to speak it into existence, like Lavar.

Lol. I don't know if the trade will happen, but I'm confident Danny will offer Tatum and all the picks.

Why would he? Kyrie hasn't committed after this season and it's very likely that he isn't coming back. And, with zero confirmation that AD will sign a long term deal (Boston wasn't even on the list of teams put out by his camp) why would he cough up so much for a potential rental? That doesn't sound like Ainge at all. He is too cunning for that.

What I think is going to happen is that Ainge will continue to manipulate Demps into painting the Lakers organization as the Devil and convince them that the lowball offer he's going to throw up will be good for New Orleans.

And because Demps is allowing his emotions to guide his decisions, its probable this happens. AD to Boston for everything but Tatum is a very realistic scenario.

You're possibly right, and I may be looking at this in my green tinted lenses, but heres my thinking...

...Danny has been waiting and prepping for this moment for years now. AD has always been his target. If you acquire AD, I think that retains Kyrie (afterall they are "like brothers")... and with Kyrie, plus Brad and winning, that should convince AD to stick around. KG didn't want Boston at first, until Danny addressed his concerns. We traded for Kyrie with 2 years left on his deal, giving up an unprotected Nets pick. Obviously not the same level of risk, but risk nonetheless.

All we know so far is that AD and his dad question Bostons loyalty and therefore do not prefer Boston... Nothing about location or winning.. The concern is loyalty. That can be fixed. That's not like being traded to a small market that has no chance of winning. A simple convo with AD can clear up some of that.

But yes, of course, keeping Kyrie is key here. I'm sure if this trickles into the summer... Kyrie and Danny (and AD) will all have a nice long talk over some Chipotle.

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