Will NO regret not taking the Lakers offer?

[madmaxmedia]

I actually agree with this. If the Knicks offered KP and their #1 unprotected, the Pelicans were crazy to turn that down.

If that trade was made, how does that affect the Knicks' W-L for the rest of the year, as well as their lottery chances? The timing isn't right for the Pelicans for such a trade.

What if say the Clippers absolutely luck out and win the #1 pick? They would suddenly be able to offer the best package in the offseason, because they are on AD's list and have the best asset of all to offer (same goes for whoever wins the lottery, but not being on AD's short list means you probably just keep the pick.)

AD has a the Pelican outside of the playoffs and that's a much better roster than what he'd have with the Knicks. And, I know he's hurt, but KP was a legit all-star.

But KP hasn't played all year, right? The Knicks are bad and will be in the lottery no matter what, but adding AD now would be enough to affect their lottery rank, only a couple of games separates teams #1 through #5.

[hype_2004]

None of those options, they did that **** out of spite. LeBron ain't getting AD not at any price.

[Pointgod]

There’s no incentive for Ainge to overpay for AD. It’s far more likely he’ll underpay. I don’t see the Celtics giving up Tatum in a bidding war against other teams, such as the Clippers or Knicks.

If Ainge doesn't overpay for AD then he's not getting AD.

Then Pelicans lose him for nothing. We’ve seen this movie before.

[Pointgod]

I think Demps is going to fully understand why Pop is still salty about Kawhi leaving. The offers were just not at all what you think teams would risk. He had to settle with DeMar from literally a lack of any offers of young value

Derozan is an all star. Poetl is a lottery pick and they get a low first round pick this year. That’s really good value for a player on a one year contact who wants out. I don’t know what you think more they could have gotten. Lakers would have offered first round picks, Ingram and Kuzma (I’m assuming Pop is not interested in Ball). That’s good on a rebuilding team but Pop wanted to play hardball.

[MotownMadness]

I think Demps is going to fully understand why Pop is still salty about Kawhi leaving. The offers were just not at all what you think teams would risk. He had to settle with DeMar from literally a lack of any offers of young value

Derozan is an all star. Poetl is a lottery pick and they get a low first round pick this year. That’s really good value for a player on a one year contact who wants out. I don’t know what you think more they could have gotten. Lakers would have offered first round picks, Ingram and Kuzma (I’m assuming Pop is not interested in Ball). That’s good on a rebuilding team but Pop wanted to play hardball.

Really? you would hope to move your superstar for a 30 year old maxed out Derozan and a mid 1st? Is that the type of Young guy with potential move they are holding out for?

[Pointgod]

I think Demps is going to fully understand why Pop is still salty about Kawhi leaving. The offers were just not at all what you think teams would risk. He had to settle with DeMar from literally a lack of any offers of young value

Derozan is an all star. Poetl is a lottery pick and they get a low first round pick this year. That’s really good value for a player on a one year contact who wants out. I don’t know what you think more they could have gotten. Lakers would have offered first round picks, Ingram and Kuzma (I’m assuming Pop is not interested in Ball). That’s good on a rebuilding team but Pop wanted to play hardball.

Really you would hope to move your superstar for a 30 year old Derozan? Is that the type of Young guy with potential move they are holding out for?

Two things:

Kawhai played 9 games last year
Kawhai indicated that he wanted out and he was in his last year of his deal

Who the hell do you think you’re getting? Spurs had very little leverage in this situation. No team is trading you Ben Simmons for a guy who might very well leave in the offseason. It just doesn’t happen.

Fact is that Derozan is an allstar and all nba player. Derozan is also keeping them in playoff contention. That’s very good value if you don’t plan on rebuilding.

[MotownMadness]

Derozan is an all star. Poetl is a lottery pick and they get a low first round pick this year. That’s really good value for a player on a one year contact who wants out. I don’t know what you think more they could have gotten. Lakers would have offered first round picks, Ingram and Kuzma (I’m assuming Pop is not interested in Ball). That’s good on a rebuilding team but Pop wanted to play hardball.

Really you would hope to move your superstar for a 30 year old Derozan? Is that the type of Young guy with potential move they are holding out for?

Two things:

Kawhai played 9 games last year
Kawhai indicated that he wanted out and he was in his last year of his deal

Who the hell do you think you’re getting? Spurs had very little leverage in this situation. No team is trading you Ben Simmons for a guy who might very well leave in the offseason. It just doesn’t happen.

Fact is that Derozan is an allstar and all nba player. Derozan is also keeping them in playoff contention. That’s very good value if you don’t plan on rebuilding.

Right and AD is injury prone and involved in a much bigger risk of collusion to leave then silent Kawhi ever was. Nobody is risking a Billy King package not named one of the LA teams or NY if they won Zion and rolled the dice

[CelticSooner]

No. They’ll get Tatum or Zion.

[MotownMadness]

No. They’ll get Tatum or Zion.

Name me one other team right now with a big shot at Zion that is in any condition to take a risk like that. Hell if my Pistons even won Zion we wouldn’t pick up the phone cause of the risk vs reward.

Ainge has the most to lose being the one team he singled out as a definite not so that’s on him.

[CelticSooner]

No. They’ll get Tatum or Zion.

Name me one other team right now with a big shot at Zion that is in any condition to take a risk like that. Hell if my Pistons even won Zion we wouldn’t pick of the phone cause of the risk vs reward

The same team that traded away a unicorn for pennies on the dollar.

[Shoe]

Lakers will regret it if they don't give into Dell Demps. Guarantee of five years of prime AD if you get him today. Just try to get a top 3 protection on the 2023 and 2025 firsts. Their young players are irrelevant if their goal is winning titles.

[John Murdoch]

I think Demps is going to fully understand why Pop is still salty about Kawhi leaving. The offers were just not at all what you think teams would risk. He had to settle with DeMar from literally a lack of any offers of young value

Derozan is an all star. Poetl is a lottery pick and they get a low first round pick this year. That’s really good value for a player on a one year contact who wants out. I don’t know what you think more they could have gotten. Lakers would have offered first round picks, Ingram and Kuzma (I’m assuming Pop is not interested in Ball). That’s good on a rebuilding team but Pop wanted to play hardball.

Really? you would hope to move your superstar for a 30 year old maxed out Derozan and a mid 1st? Is that the type of Young guy with potential move they are holding out for?

Yeah feel like Spurs should have targeted picks especially with how good of a track record RC Buford has of drafting players

[MotownMadness]

No. They’ll get Tatum or Zion.

Name me one other team right now with a big shot at Zion that is in any condition to take a risk like that. Hell if my Pistons even won Zion we wouldn’t pick of the phone cause of the risk vs reward

The same team that traded away a unicorn for pennies on the dollar.

You failed miserably and made my point naming the one team I said aside from that he wants to go to

[statsman]

Lakers will regret it if they don't give into Dell Demps. Guarantee of five years of prime AD if you get him today. Just try to get a top 3 protection on the 2023 and 2025 firsts. Their young players are irrelevant if their goal is winning titles.

Better make them unprotected, if they really want AD now. The Pelicans won't change their minds otherwise.

[Shoe]

Lakers will regret it if they don't give into Dell Demps. Guarantee of five years of prime AD if you get him today. Just try to get a top 3 protection on the 2023 and 2025 firsts. Their young players are irrelevant if their goal is winning titles.

Better make them unprotected, if they really want AD now. The Pelicans won't change their minds otherwise.

I still do it. To guarantee having AD from 25-30 is insanely valuable, more so if you have LeBron and close to max cap space.

[kinste]

I think Tatum is completly overrated and overhyped Right now. I think the gap between him and Ingram is not thaat big.
NO will absolutly regret not tanking the Lakers deal.

[Nuntius]

There’s no incentive for Ainge to overpay for AD. It’s far more likely he’ll underpay. I don’t see the Celtics giving up Tatum in a bidding war against other teams, such as the Clippers or Knicks.

If Ainge doesn't overpay for AD then he's not getting AD.

Then Pelicans lose him for nothing. We’ve seen this movie before.

How? The Celtics and the Lakers aren't the only teams vying for AD. Lots of teams are interested. Besides, the Lakers offer isn't going anywhere. It's going to be there in the summer too.

[walk with me]

All of the “nos”

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[CelticSooner]

Name me one other team right now with a big shot at Zion that is in any condition to take a risk like that. Hell if my Pistons even won Zion we wouldn’t pick of the phone cause of the risk vs reward

The same team that traded away a unicorn for pennies on the dollar.

You failed miserably and made my point naming the one team I said aside from that he wants to go to

Wut? It doesn’t matter what Klutch is putting out there right now. Only thing that matters is what happens 5 months from now.

[MotownMadness]

The same team that traded away a unicorn for pennies on the dollar.

You failed miserably and made my point naming the one team I said aside from that he wants to go to

Wut? It doesn’t matter what Klutch is putting out there right now. Only thing that matters is what happens 5 months from now.

I can tell you exactly what’s gonna happen regarding Zion though unless the Knicks get him at a 14% shot. Even then they will still feel hard pressed to do it.