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Post#1561 » by The Consiglieri » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:20 am

Ruzious wrote:Maybe the problem is that his goal is to make the last spot in the playoffs.

... with a completely capped team... understanding that he's just refused to entertain the idea of trading any of his 3 highest paid players.

We basically have Abe Pollin II as the owner - though I think Pollin honestly wanted to win a championship. It's pretty clear that Leonsis is fine with just barely making the playoffs.


The problem with Abe was he valued loyalty to incompetent, self-interested job preserving at all cost morons above winning a championship. Now we're dealing with the same.
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Post#1562 » by Dat2U » Sat Feb 9, 2019 9:16 pm

My spidey senses tell me Ted is really the defacto GM and Ernie is just the go-between. This explains why Ted gives secret extensions to a guy everyone loathes. Ernie provides cover for Ted's burgeoning incompetence.
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Dat2U wrote:My spidey senses tell me Ted is really the defacto GM and Ernie is just the go-between. This explains why Ted gives secret extensions to a guy everyone loathes. Ernie provides cover for Ted's burgeoning incompetence.

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Post#1564 » by Dat2U » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:11 pm

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Dat2U wrote:My spidey senses tell me Ted is really the defacto GM and Ernie is just the go-between. This explains why Ted gives secret extensions to a guy everyone loathes. Ernie provides cover for Ted's burgeoning incompetence.

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Post#1565 » by closg00 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:17 pm

Sadly, I believe Dats take is the most-likely outcome, we can only hope that Brad will not be hypnotized by the dollar signs and that he pushes back on Ted to make FO changes.
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Post#1566 » by Ruzious » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:30 pm

Yup, it wouldn't be surprising if they give Beal the same foolish advanced max extension they gave Wall. He who forgets... is bound to bleep up the same way he bleeped up before.
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Post#1567 » by FAH1223 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:55 pm

Ruzious wrote:Yup, it wouldn't be surprising if they give Beal the same foolish advanced max extension they gave Wall. He who forgets... is bound to bleep up the same way he bleeped up before.


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Post#1568 » by Dat2U » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:47 pm

FAH1223 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Yup, it wouldn't be surprising if they give Beal the same foolish advanced max extension they gave Wall. He who forgets... is bound to bleep up the same way he bleeped up before.


Brad ain’t making All NBA so it’ll be way less than John.


Is it really a stretch? I can definitely see a scenario where Beal keeps us mediocre enough to garner some votes. Its probably a bit of a longshot.
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Post#1569 » by Illmatic12 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:13 pm

Dat2U wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Yup, it wouldn't be surprising if they give Beal the same foolish advanced max extension they gave Wall. He who forgets... is bound to bleep up the same way he bleeped up before.


Brad ain’t making All NBA so it’ll be way less than John.


Is it really a stretch? I can definitely see a scenario where Beal keeps us mediocre enough to garner some votes. Its probably a bit of a longshot.

All-NBA guard spots:

Harden-Curry
Lillard-Irving
Westbrook-Simmons/Beal/Walker

It's a longshot I think. Beal and Walker will split some 3rd team votes but it feels like the majority of the consideration will go to Simmons , since the 76ers have the best record by far of those teams
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Post#1570 » by FAH1223 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:20 pm

Dat2U wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Yup, it wouldn't be surprising if they give Beal the same foolish advanced max extension they gave Wall. He who forgets... is bound to bleep up the same way he bleeped up before.


Brad ain’t making All NBA so it’ll be way less than John.


Is it really a stretch? I can definitely see a scenario where Beal keeps us mediocre enough to garner some votes. Its probably a bit of a longshot.


Its a stretch. Team sucks. He can't make an All-NBA team.
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Post#1571 » by nate33 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:33 pm

Dat2U wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:
Ruzious wrote:Yup, it wouldn't be surprising if they give Beal the same foolish advanced max extension they gave Wall. He who forgets... is bound to bleep up the same way he bleeped up before.


Brad ain’t making All NBA so it’ll be way less than John.


Is it really a stretch? I can definitely see a scenario where Beal keeps us mediocre enough to garner some votes. Its probably a bit of a longshot.

I'm not even sure it's a longshot. I'd say it's 50/50. The 1st team and 2nd team will be comprised of Curry, Harden, Lillard and Kyrie in some order. The 3rd team is going to be 2 out of Beal, Simmons, Westbrook and Kemba. Maybe Klay and Lowry sneak into the conversation, but I doubt it. I know winning matters, but should Simmons honestly make it over Beal just because he happens to play alongside Embiid and Butler while Beal only has one or two starting-caliber players on his team?
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Post#1572 » by nate33 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:45 pm

If Beal and Ted did discuss money, I hope it wasn't for a 35% supermax extension. Beal is a reliable All Star, but he's not a Lebron/Durant/Giannis level superstar. Paying him 35% of the cap would make it impossible to build a championship roster around him.

If Beal does make the All NBA team, he would become eligible for a supermax extension this summer. But the extension doesn't have to be a full 35%. There's no reason it can't be less. The team could, for example, extend him a 30% extension for 4 years beyond the end of his current contract. That would earn him security for the next 6 years at a price higher than anyone else can pay. (Others could start him at 30%, but only give him 4.5% raises, which would slowly drop below the 30% threshold as the cap increases.)

Indeed, as compensation for extending him this level of security so early, maybe they could negotiate it down to, say, a 28% extension or something. Beal gets security while also keeping the team payroll flexible enough so that he can eventually join forces with a star.
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Post#1573 » by I_Like_Dirt » Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:10 pm

nate33 wrote:If Beal and Ted did discuss money, I hope it wasn't for a 35% supermax extension. Beal is a reliable All Star, but he's not a Lebron/Durant/Giannis level superstar. Paying him 35% of the cap would make it impossible to build a championship roster around him.

If Beal does make the All NBA team, he would become eligible for a supermax extension this summer. But the extension doesn't have to be a full 35%. There's no reason it can't be less. The team could, for example, extend him a 30% extension for 4 years beyond the end of his current contract. That would earn him security for the next 6 years at a price higher than anyone else can pay. (Others could start him at 30%, but only give him 4.5% raises, which would slowly drop below the 30% threshold as the cap increases.)

Indeed, as compensation for extending him this level of security so early, maybe they could negotiate it down to, say, a 28% extension or something. Beal gets security while also keeping the team payroll flexible enough so that he can eventually join forces with a star.


I mean it's possible and I can understand the value of it, I just don't think it's probable.

(1) Beal just saw Wall drop his value pretty dramatically. This can work both ways. It might make him more predisposed to security but it also might make him more predisposed to trying to get as much money as he can without the certainty of another contract afterwards.

(2) Wall's max on the roster already cuts pretty heavily into any potential to sign another star alongside Beal. And if Wall didn't take a pay cut, why should Beal? The Wizards are essentially paying the tax for Wall. Helping the team avoid doing that with Beal isn't necessarily something I would expect him to be in favor of.

(3) Ernie doesn't appear to be going anywhere and I have 0 faith in his not throwing as much money in free agency at proven veterans as he possibly can. Can he give Beal a player option on the last year of that extension? If he can, you know he will give it to him.

(4) Beal (or his agent) already leaked that trade demand earlier in the season only to have Beal plausibly deny it right away. If the team comes in and starts to lowball him after they've always way overpaid everyone else they've ever spent money on, I can't imagine he's going to be a major fan of that play. Does he really want to give Ernie more money to go out and sign the next Ian?
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Re: The Amazingly Sucky Theodore Leonsis Thread 

Post#1574 » by BigA » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:07 pm

The three biggest lies:

1. "The check is in the mail."

2. "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

3. "I'm Ted Leonsis, and there's no way we're going to trade you."
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Post#1576 » by queridiculo » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:34 pm

Woooooo! Are you as hyped about the Capital Centre's new scoreboard as I am?

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Post#1577 » by payitforward » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:17 pm

Dude! It's to attract free agents!
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Post#1578 » by BigA » Fri Feb 22, 2019 3:33 am

queridiculo wrote:Woooooo! Are you as hyped about the Capital Centre's new scoreboard as I am?


They should have hyped the urinal cakes and condiments.
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Post#1579 » by queridiculo » Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:59 am

payitforward wrote:Dude! It's to attract free agents!


Isn't it great how they hype $55 million of arena improvements a few weeks after trading one of their better players for salary cap relief?

Don't mind the on-court product, look at the shiny scoreboard and while you're at it, buy more alcoholic beverages.

That's right, part of the arena improvements was a reduction of food options in favor of self-serve alcohol stations.

Oh, and they're now serving fuku :lol:

The PwC Club (formerly the Acela Club) is now open to all event attendees and features new culinary offerings, including chef David Chang's chicken-focused Fuku and celebrity chef Cat Cora's Olilo.
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Post#1580 » by montestewart » Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:58 pm

queridiculo wrote:Woooooo! Are you as hyped about the Capital Centre's new scoreboard as I am?


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