Markelle Fultz VIII: The Aftermath

Eyeamok · Post #21 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 3:24 pm

As a fan I wanted Fultz to succeed here, but that last tweet is so much BS. He wishes the 76ers well then goes on to say he is still doing rehab for TOS. So basically he is still not ready and the 76ers gave up on him while he is getting better.. I know this is probably coming from his agent. But it's like really!!! the 76ers went out of their way to give you as much support as possible. Specialist, getting fluid removed from your shoulder...no wait no fluid removal just shots. Shooting thousands of shots over the summer and still coming back broken. And all the while you are collect a paycheck doing cartwheels,delivering donuts while cheering on the bench during nationally televised games.

All the money he has made can run out very quickly, he better budget it correctly. And his agent, in my eyes, has kind of turned him into a con man. As soon as he signs his extension and has a few bad games out come the TOS diagnosis, which was never diagnosed by a doctor, and he stops playing. All the while blindsiding the organization that has stood by him.

Just a bad look for this guy.

sam-hinkie · Post #22 » by **sam-hinkie** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 3:35 pm

I still think he will turn it around its just such a bizarre case...the number 1 pick forgets how to shoot.

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Bum Adebayo · Post #23 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:20 pm

Some still think Bustelle has star potential lmfao
I was joking these past months about him being a top 5 player in the future, now there is no need to.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #24 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:24 pm

I wish him the best, but good gawd what a waste of a pick...Can only imagine where we'd be with Donovan Mitchell instead.

Ben Simmons · Post #25 » by **Ben Simmons** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:37 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I wish him the best, but good gawd what a waste of a pick...Can only imagine where we'd be with Donovan Mitchell instead.

Mitchell takes bad shots so he'd be frustrating, he's the opposite of Jimmy Butler, I love Butler because he puts the team first and plays really unselfishly (passes up shots in the first 3 quarters) and knows he's there to be a closer and he's great at it :nod:

Negrodamus · Post #26 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:39 pm

Heidi4Ben wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I wish him the best, but good gawd what a waste of a pick...Can only imagine where we'd be with Donovan Mitchell instead.

Mitchell takes bad shots so he'd be frustrating, he's the opposite of Jimmy Butler, I love Butler because he puts the team first and plays really unselfishly and knows he's there to be a closer and he's great at it

We'd be in the drivers seat for the East if we had Donovan Mitchell. Robert Covington can basically fill Butler's role right now.

Ben Simmons · Post #27 » by **Ben Simmons** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:50 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Heidi4Ben wrote:
ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I wish him the best, but good gawd what a waste of a pick...Can only imagine where we'd be with Donovan Mitchell instead.

Mitchell takes bad shots so he'd be frustrating, he's the opposite of Jimmy Butler, I love Butler because he puts the team first and plays really unselfishly and knows he's there to be a closer and he's great at it

We'd be in the drivers seat for the East if we had Donovan Mitchell. Robert Covington can basically fill Butler's role right now.

unlike Covington, we see Butler wins games on the buzzer and also Coach Brown said Butler can play Point Guard :nod:

Butler is better than Mitchell at shooting and defense, and arguably slashing too....

Kobblehead · Post #28 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 4:59 pm

Donovan Mitchell obviously has team-carrying ability. I just wonder how much his feast-or-famine playstyle will impact his status as a winning player, down the line. Right now, he's dragging a marginally talented team to wins and racking up playoff wins, so it seems untimely to even harbor that concern, I admit. I just can't help but to view him in the same light as Westbrook and slap him with an undesirable label.

Negrodamus · Post #29 » by **Negrodamus** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:06 pm

Heidi4Ben wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Heidi4Ben wrote:Mitchell takes bad shots so he'd be frustrating, he's the opposite of Jimmy Butler, I love Butler because he puts the team first and plays really unselfishly and knows he's there to be a closer and he's great at it

We'd be in the drivers seat for the East if we had Donovan Mitchell. Robert Covington can basically fill Butler's role right now.

unlike Covington, we see Butler wins games on the buzzer and also Coach Brown said Butler can play Point Guard
Butler is better than Mitchell at shooting and defense, and arguably slashing too....

I don't think it's a controversial opinion to say that Donovan Mitchell, Robert Covington, and Dario Saric >>> Jimmy Butler.

And Jimmy Butler is just not a better shooter. He may get more open looks that he hits at a higher percentage, but I'll take Mitchell's shooting profile 10/10 times over Butler. On top of all this, Mitchell is younger and on a rookie contract.

I also don't need to bring up Covington's game winners from years past.

youngcrev · Post #30 » by **youngcrev** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:11 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Donovan Mitchell obviously has team-carrying ability. I just wonder how much his feast-or-famine playstyle will impact his status as a winning player, down the line. Right now, he's dragging a marginally talented team to wins and racking up playoff wins, so it seems untimely to even harbor that concern, I admit. I just can't help but to view him in the same light as Westbrook and slap him with an undesirable label.

Yeah, I hear that, I'm just not sure he'd have that same style if he were drafted here instead of walking into the situation he did with the ultimate green light. I don't think you can walk back that green light now that he's had so much (at least perceived) success.

the_process · Post #31 » by **the_process** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:12 pm

Glad he's Orlando's problem now. Kid has a lot of work to do, and I don't mean on his game or his physical therapy.

Hipster Doofus · Post #32 » by **Hipster Doofus** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:20 pm

I wish him the best, will root for him, and will catch some Orlando games whenever he does play.

I get the headaches and the financial aspect, but I hope we had kept him a little longer. He finally got an actual medical diagnosis just weeks ago, was rehabing, and seemed to be less than a month away from returning.

What if he plays for the Magic now in a few weeks and resembles the University of Washington Kelle, dropping fools left and right and draining jumpers between their eyes?

We're gonna look like dumbasses for not waiting a little bit longer on a 20 year old kid whose value can only go up.

But maybe he'll never be the same and my points above are moot. Time will tell.

Eyeamok · Post #33 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:28 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I wish him the best, but good gawd what a waste of a pick...Can only imagine where we'd be with Donovan Mitchell instead.

But we were never going to pick Mitchell. We had a GM who's scouting methods were suspect at best. He made a trade with out #1 divisional rival so that we could grab a guy they wanted no part of ! In hindsight that sound so bizarre and sends up all kind of red flags. Fox, Mitchell, Fultz, Ball, Jackson, Taytum, Smith and maybe Monk. Those were the only guys BC was going to draft. No Mitchell.

Audi · Post #34 » by **Audi** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:41 pm

Eyeamok wrote:As a fan I wanted Fultz to succeed here, but that last tweet is so much BS. He wishes the 76ers well then goes on to say he is still doing rehab for TOS. So basically he is still not ready and the 76ers gave up on him while he is getting better.. I know this is probably coming from his agent. But it's like really!!! the 76ers went out of their way to give you as much support as possible. Specialist, getting fluid removed from your shoulder...no wait no fluid removal just shots. Shooting thousands of shots over the summer and still coming back broken. And all the while you are collect a paycheck doing cartwheels,delivering donuts while cheering on the bench during nationally televised games.

All the money he has made can run out very quickly, he better budget it correctly. And his agent, in my eyes, has kind of turned him into a con man. As soon as he signs his extension and has a few bad games out come the TOS diagnosis, which was never diagnosed by a doctor, and he stops playing. All the while blindsiding the organization that has stood by him.

Just a bad look for this guy.

Could you please elaborate on this non-doctor diagnosis claim?

thenbaman · Post #35 » by **thenbaman** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:44 pm

Lets just move on no more about fultz.

Eyeamok · Post #36 » by **Eyeamok** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:45 pm

Audi wrote:
Eyeamok wrote:As a fan I wanted Fultz to succeed here, but that last tweet is so much BS. He wishes the 76ers well then goes on to say he is still doing rehab for TOS. So basically he is still not ready and the 76ers gave up on him while he is getting better.. I know this is probably coming from his agent. But it's like really!!! the 76ers went out of their way to give you as much support as possible. Specialist, getting fluid removed from your shoulder...no wait no fluid removal just shots. Shooting thousands of shots over the summer and still coming back broken. And all the while you are collect a paycheck doing cartwheels,delivering donuts while cheering on the bench during nationally televised games.

All the money he has made can run out very quickly, he better budget it correctly. And his agent, in my eyes, has kind of turned him into a con man. As soon as he signs his extension and has a few bad games out come the TOS diagnosis, which was never diagnosed by a doctor, and he stops playing. All the while blindsiding the organization that has stood by him.

Just a bad look for this guy.

Could you please elaborate on this non-doctor diagnosis claim?

If I recall correctly he went to see several specialists. And his agent was the one that said they have determined that Fultz had TOS. But that claim was never backed up by any doctor. He went from seeing specialists to getting treatment in LA.

FireMorey · Post #37 » by **FireMorey** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:47 pm

He was referring to him seeing a million doctors and not one of them finding anything wrong with him and he just kept seeing doctors until he got the TOS diagnosis, but no doctor put their name publicly behind that diagnosis, nor did the team(when they usually have in the past with the Sixers). So most people who cover the team feel that it was a made up diagnosis to allow Fultz to save face and continue to not admit publicly he has a mental block.

Obviously no one can prove that, but it’s the general consensus from people covering the team. That Fultz is trying to do everything he can to not admit he has a problem.

Ben Simmons · Post #38 » by **Ben Simmons** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:54 pm

in 2018 we were a 50 win team, now we are a 60 win team....
2018: Embiid, Saric, Covington, Redick, Simmons
2019: Embiid, Harris, Butler, Redick, Simmons

Saric and Covington were role-players, whereas Harris and Butler are all-star players :nod:

and now Embiid will stop attempting threes!

76ciology · Post #39 » by **76ciology** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 6:04 pm

Would hve preferred Mirotic than what we got

Arsenal · Post #40 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Feb 8, 2019 6:06 pm

Not a fan of selling low like this, but I'm going to assume the team knew a lot more damning info that we don't.

I would expect ALL the dirt to be leaked out by the front office shortly. Both to justify the trade now, and also to bury the corpse of the former incompetent GM responsible for this mess.