Official Caris LeVert Thread

[Claud]

Kurucs minutes should go down he's running on fumes.

Agreed. Good thing Caris + Crabbe are back in the rotation which should help Rodi's minutes go down a bit to give him some much needed rest. After not playing much at all during the last 2 years to now playing major minutes due to injury... he looks gassed.

He was a soldier and helped us tremendously as a starter giving us max effort while Crabbe/Harris/Levert were out. Now he has some help thankfully.

I'd still keep him as a starter and play it by ear. If he's looks sharp let him play, if not we have options.

Very encouraging signs though. Definitely a steal at 40th pick.

[SpeedyG]

Anyone who doesn't think Caris is our best player needs to have their eyes checked.

Haven't played in 3 months, minutes restriction, and he damn near willed us back in this game

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[bws94]

So great to see CLV back. He looked good too.

[Prokorov]

Anyone who doesn't think Caris is our best player needs to have their eyes checked.

Haven't played in 3 months, minutes restriction, and he damn near willed us back in this game

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Russell is better. Levert almost lead us back in 1 game vs a bad bulls team at home.

Russell lead us to a 23-19 record and 6th seed while Levert was out while being named an all-star, player of the week and was in consideration for player of the month in january

[DarkXaero]

Anyone who doesn't think Caris is our best player needs to have their eyes checked.

Haven't played in 3 months, minutes restriction, and he damn near willed us back in this game

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Russell is better. Levert almost lead us back in 1 game vs a bad bulls team at home.

This makes no sense. Did D Lo not play in the same game or something? Was D Lo not playing at the start of the season? Its almost like a team cant get better over the course of the season or something.

[MrDollarBills]

It's not a pissing contest. We need both Russell and LeVert to excel for this team to take it to another level and to be an attractive draw to free agents.

We want to have one of the top 5 backcourts in the league...I'd say with these two kids, we are very well on our way there.

[SpeedyG]

Anyone who doesn't think Caris is our best player needs to have their eyes checked.

Haven't played in 3 months, minutes restriction, and he damn near willed us back in this game

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Russell is better. Levert almost lead us back in 1 game vs a bad bulls team at home.

Russell lead us to a 23-19 record and 6th seed while Levert was out while being named an all-star, player of the week and was in consideration for player of the month in january

The shoe DOES fit lol

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[Prokorov]

Anyone who doesn't think Caris is our best player needs to have their eyes checked.

Haven't played in 3 months, minutes restriction, and he damn near willed us back in this game

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Russell is better. Levert almost lead us back in 1 game vs a bad bulls team at home.

This makes no sense. Did D Lo not play in the same game or something? Was D Lo not playing at the start of the season? Its almost like a team cant get better over the course of the season or something.

the point is, russell is an all-star this season who has put this team on his back for a playoff run,

Levert had 11 points on 11 shots in a loss to the bulls

for someone to say levert is clearly better and needs to have their eyes checked based on that is trump-level idiocy or straight Russell hating

[shakendfries]

Russell is better. Levert almost lead us back in 1 game vs a bad bulls team at home.

This makes no sense. Did D Lo not play in the same game or something? Was D Lo not playing at the start of the season? Its almost like a team cant get better over the course of the season or something.

the point is, russell is an all-star this season who has put this team on his back for a playoff run,

Levert had 11 points on 11 shots in a loss to the bulls

for someone to say levert is clearly better and needs to have their eyes checked based on that is trump-level idiocy or straight Russell hating

[Prokorov]

Some people just refuse to give Russell any credit. CARRIES the nets team to a 6th seed currently after you all pronounced this team DEAD (yes you, the ones who said we need to tank or immeditely trade for Carmello) but somehow you have no eyeballs if you think russell is better then Levert now that levert has been back for like 15 minutes amd Russell being better across the baord statistically and carrying us while Levert was rehabbing

[TheNetsFan]

Kenny may need to stagger DLo and LeVert until Dinwiddie's return. Napier can't run the 2nd unit alone. I'd promote Carroll to aid DLo for now, and run with Napier-LeVert-Crabbe-Graham-Davis on the 2nd unit. I've been championing Carroll to start all season though, but Kenny doesn't seem to want to messs with the 2nd unit.

The depth of this team is its strength, but that only works when you have a capable offensive playmaker on the court at all times. We're not good enough to build big leads to cover the bench. Our formula is basically for the starters to play even, and our 2nd unit to have an advantage. We lost that advantage when Dinwiddie went down.

[SpeedyG]

It's not even a knock on Russell.

It SHOULD be a testament to Caris that, as well as Russell has played (and he's deserved that all-star berth), the moment he stepped foot on the floor any one who isn't completely biased should notice that he's our best player.

Caris is our best player.

That's not a shot on Russell. That's not a shot on Spencer.

Both have had good seasons and great moments this season.

But until a Durant or Leonard or Kyrie or Kemba or Davis (you get the point), walks through that door...this is his team.

I'm not really sure how anyone who watches these games objectively can argue that



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[SpeedyG]

Kenny may need to stagger DLo and LeVert until Dinwiddie's return. Napier can't run the 2nd unit alone. I'd promote Carroll to aid DLo for now, and run with Napier-LeVert-Crabbe-Graham-Davis on the 2nd unit. I've been championing Carroll to start all season though, but Kenny doesn't seem to want to messs with the 2nd unit.

The depth of this team is its strength, but that only works when you have a capable offensive playmaker on the court at all times. We're not good enough to build big leads to cover the bench. Our formula is basically for the starters to play even, and our 2nd unit to have an advantage. We lost that advantage when Dinwiddie went down.

Disagree. I think Carroll is in his perfect role right now. Caris needs to start and be the one to help Russell (and his presence will help Kurucs too.

Napier, Graham, Carroll, Rondae, and Davis has been good enough even without Spencer against most benches.

Napier can be in chuck mode, but last night he was just out of this world awful. I don't expect that every night. And when you coupled that with Carroll also having a bad night, it just went sideways quickly.

I would like to have some staggered minutes though to allow Caris in that 2nd unit some, possibly with Shabazz alongside him in spurts (or even with Crabbe).

Our bench has been our strength and that's anchored by Spencer, Carroll and Davis.

I wouldn't mess with that too much yet as i think last night was an aberration more than a norm.

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[Prokorov]

It's not even a knock on Russell.

It SHOULD be a testament to Caris that, as well as Russell has played (and he's deserved that all-star berth), the moment he stepped foot on the floor any one who isn't completely biased should notice that he's our best player.

Caris is our best player.

That's not a shot on Russell. That's not a shot on Spencer.

Both have had good seasons and great moments this season.

But until a Durant or Leonard or Kyrie or Kemba or Davis (you get the point), walks through that door...this is his team.

I'm not really sure how anyone who watches these games objectively can argue that



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i see ZERO argument that Levert is the better player now or in the future...

- Russell Statistically is better in both volume stats and advanced/efficiency stats.
- The team has a better record with Russell then it does with levert
- Russell lead this team to its best month since 2013, Levert did not
- Russell was named an NBA All-star, Levert was not
- Russell is 22, Levert is 24

Somehow in your bizzaro world where a 14-42 beats us at home and it takes levert 11 shots to get 11 points that cements him as out best player?



Russell is setting Nets records, getting player of the week awards, being named to allstar teams, droppng 30/7 games, 20/10 games... but levert came back an helped us almost not lose to the bulls so,,,

[MGrand15]

Not surprised this argument is kicking off one day after LeVert comes back from a devastating almost career altering injury.

Russell's been great. This idea that he carried us like James Harden to this record is ridiculous. Severely downplays all the contributions of everyone else on the team. Harris, Dinwiddie, Allen, Davis, Kurucs, etc. We're 3-5 since Dinwiddie went down with some terrible losses. That's what it looks like when one guy has to do it all on his own.

It is cute that Prok keeps mentioning 11 points on 11 shots. Ignoring the 4 assists, 5 steals, no TOs, and positive +/- on a night we lost by 20. Ignoring how he actually looked on the floor.

[Sleepyazn]

Not surprised this argument is kicking off one day after LeVert comes back from a devastating almost career altering injury.

Russell's been great. This idea that he carried us like James Harden to this record is ridiculous. Severely downplays all the contributions of everyone else on the team. Harris, Dinwiddie, Allen, Davis, Kurucs, etc. We're 3-5 since Dinwiddie went down with some terrible losses. That's what it looks like when one guy has to do it all on his own.



Seriously it wasn't even Dlo who was hard carrying in the win streak. It was Spencer.

It is cute that Prok keeps mentioning 11 points on 11 shots. Ignoring the 4 assists, 5 steals, no TOs, and positive +/- on a night we lost by 20. Ignoring how he actually looked on the floor.

[MrDollarBills]

FFS it's not a pissing contest.

The Nets aren't getting anywhere without both Russell and LeVert. That's the only fact that matters here. Not who did what last night, not who did what over the last two months. It's not either Russell or LeVert's "team". The Nets don't operate that way, Russell and LeVert don't operate that way, so its ignorant for Nets fans to sit here and argue over it.

Yall look crazy trying to put one player down in favor of the other. Give Russell his due, to downplay what he did on his way to getting an all star nod is really disingenuous. Give LeVert his respect, he was playing excellent basketball before he got injured and was garnering attention league wide, acting like he didn't is disingenuous. We have two players in the same year in the backcourt making a leap that people on here had no idea would happen and we're sitting here trying to crap on one player in favor of the other. It's silly as hell. I can bet Golden State Warrior fans weren't bitching at each other when Steph and Klay started to make their leap as a tandem but over here in Netsville, of course it becomes a **** ing knife fight

You know what stood out last night? The fact that the Nets started coming back in that game when Russell and LeVert were both on the floor, and as soon as Kenny took them out the team went to hell. That's all I need to know here. Both players are equally important to this team's long term outlook. Period.

[MrDollarBills]

and frankly both of yall are guilty of unfairly crapping on both players, so...I dunno. It's just really crazy. We should be thrilled to have them both healthy and on their way to becoming stars in the league at the same damn time. Like if they continue on their upward trajectory the Nets are going to be a contending team in the long run as Marks continues to shape this roster. I dunno about yall but that's what matters the most, right? Does that make sense?

[kamaze]

Not surprised this argument is kicking off one day after LeVert comes back from a devastating almost career altering injury.

Russell's been great. This idea that he carried us like James Harden to this record is ridiculous. Severely downplays all the contributions of everyone else on the team. Harris, Dinwiddie, Allen, Davis, Kurucs, etc. We're 3-5 since Dinwiddie went down with some terrible losses. That's what it looks like when one guy has to do it all on his own.

It is cute that Prok keeps mentioning 11 points on 11 shots. Ignoring the 4 assists, 5 steals, no TOs, and positive +/- on a night we lost by 20. Ignoring how he actually looked on the floor.

[DarkXaero]

Not surprised this argument is kicking off one day after LeVert comes back from a devastating almost career altering injury.

Russell's been great. This idea that he carried us like James Harden to this record is ridiculous. Severely downplays all the contributions of everyone else on the team. Harris, Dinwiddie, Allen, Davis, Kurucs, etc. We're 3-5 since Dinwiddie went down with some terrible losses. That's what it looks like when one guy has to do it all on his own.

It is cute that Prok keeps mentioning 11 points on 11 shots. Ignoring the 4 assists, 5 steals, no TOs, and positive +/- on a night we lost by 20. Ignoring how he actually looked on the floor.

This 100%.

Prokorov has an obvious agenda against Levert, which is really sad, because as a fan of the team, you should be ultimately rooting for all your players, rather than downplaying one. I'll admit that I wasn't high on D Lo before, but he has improved a lot since the first month or so of the season, and has played tremendously in 2019. I still have my question marks about him, but ultimately, what's best for this team is for D Lo to become a legit all star caliber player. So I'm delighted to see that start to happen. Levert is a tremendous talent as well, I don't care about his age, he showed dramatic improvement this season, after an offseason full of hard work and praise. But prokorov still has to come out with his "D Lo carried the Nets to ___ record in January, we were a losing team with Levert" crap.