Nassir Little

[clyde21]

Care to elaborate?

Oubre is quicker, Nassir is stronger, but both had very similar statistical seasons in college and strengths and weaknesses coming out.

DX's Strengths for Oubre:

- Phyiscal Tools
- Defensive Potential
- Shooting Stroke
- Upside

Weaknesses

- Creating Offense
- Feel for the Game
- Consistency

i mean, what makes them similar outside of having similar stats as freshmen? Oubre doesn't have the two-way potential of Little, doesn't have the core strength, switchability 2-4, or ability to finish at the rim like Nas. Oubre's also more of an off-ball guy while Little needs touches on-ball to leverage his strengths.

Obviously the aren't identical, but they do share some of the same concerns imo of being swing forwards w/ feel and IQ concerns that are deficient in enough areas that may lead them to being guys that aren't valuable enough at either position to be starters on a good team.

Who's your comparison for him?

Somewhere in between Stanley Johnson and Kawhi Leonard.

[RipCity71252]

i mean, what makes them similar outside of having similar stats as freshmen? Oubre doesn't have the two-way potential of Little, doesn't have the core strength, switchability 2-4, or ability to finish at the rim like Nas. Oubre's also more of an off-ball guy while Little needs touches on-ball to leverage his strengths.

Obviously the aren't identical, but they do share some of the same concerns imo of being swing forwards w/ feel and IQ concerns that are deficient in enough areas that may lead them to being guys that aren't valuable enough at either position to be starters on a good team.

Who's your comparison for him?

Somewhere in between Stanley Johnson and Kawhi Leonard.

Really covering your bases with that one lol

[clyde21]

Obviously the aren't identical, but they do share some of the same concerns imo of being swing forwards w/ feel and IQ concerns that are deficient in enough areas that may lead them to being guys that aren't valuable enough at either position to be starters on a good team.

Who's your comparison for him?

Somewhere in between Stanley Johnson and Kawhi Leonard.

Really covering your bases with that one lol

i'm giving you two guys in which his archetype compares favorably to. he'll land somewhere on that spectrum depending on what you think of him as a prospect.

[RipCity71252]

Somewhere in between Stanley Johnson and Kawhi Leonard.

Really covering your bases with that one lol

i'm giving you two guys in which his archetype compares favorably to. he'll land somewhere on that spectrum depending on what you think of him as a prospect.

With a range that wide, I'd say that's a pretty safe statement.

[clyde21]

Really covering your bases with that one lol

i'm giving you two guys in which his archetype compares favorably to. he'll land somewhere on that spectrum depending on what you think of him as a prospect.

With a range that wide, I'd say that's a pretty safe statement.

i'm just giving you who he compares to. where you think he'll settle on that spectrum is completely up to how you see him as a prospect.

[RipCity71252]

i'm giving you two guys in which his archetype compares favorably to. he'll land somewhere on that spectrum depending on what you think of him as a prospect.

With a range that wide, I'd say that's a pretty safe statement.

i'm just giving you who he compares to. where you think he'll settle on that spectrum is completely up to how you see him as a prospect.

And you would land where?

[clyde21]

Read on Twitter

[BostonCouchGM]

PER 40 averages

21-10-2 with over a block and steal. Not too shabby considering he's essentially the 5th option on the floor at all times. While he's a better on man defender (which bodes well for the NBA) he's not showing any bad defense like the erroneous narrative going around, while in zone. I can see why some would think he's at best OG Anunoby due to similar size, athleticism, etc but that to me is his floor. I don't see Kawhi upside but Jimmy Butler is within reach. He's firmly in the discussion for a top 5 pick if he has a strong tournament. I think his talent warrants a top 5 pick but I wouldn't be surprised if he falls to 7-10

[mattg]

i'm giving you two guys in which his archetype compares favorably to. he'll land somewhere on that spectrum depending on what you think of him as a prospect.

With a range that wide, I'd say that's a pretty safe statement.

i'm just giving you who he compares to. where you think he'll settle on that spectrum is completely up to how you see him as a prospect.

I mean I get what you’re saying, but the spectrum youre talking about is guy who never improves from the day he’s drafted and likely is playing overseas immediately after his rookie deal ends ranging up to an MVP candidate. Basically you’re saying nothing at all, other than saying he’s a tweener-ish combo forward.

[clyde21]

With a range that wide, I'd say that's a pretty safe statement.

i'm just giving you who he compares to. where you think he'll settle on that spectrum is completely up to how you see him as a prospect.

I mean I get what you’re saying, but the spectrum youre talking about is guy who never improves from the day he’s drafted and likely is playing overseas immediately after his rookie deal ends ranging up to an MVP candidate. Basically you’re saying nothing at all, other than saying he’s a tweener-ish combo forward.

no, it's pretty simple what I'm saying: he compares to Stanley Johnson and Kawhi Leonard in terms of archetype and stylistically. Whether u think he'll end being closer to Johnson or Leonard depends on how u view him as a prospect.

i'm not sure why this is that difficult to understand tbh.

[tundraknight]

He kind of reminds me of a Michael Kidd-Gilchrist/Rondea Hollis-Jefferson hybrid.

[King Ken]

Obviously the aren't identical, but they do share some of the same concerns imo of being swing forwards w/ feel and IQ concerns that are deficient in enough areas that may lead them to being guys that aren't valuable enough at either position to be starters on a good team.

Who's your comparison for him?

Somewhere in between Stanley Johnson and Kawhi Leonard.

Really covering your bases with that one lol

Somewhere between Nevada and Florida.

[King Ken]

Read on Twitter

He looks quick as hell in this clip. Athletically, he's has potential if this is who he really is. He don't look nothing like Stanley Johnson trying to get to the basket. Johnson used to do like James Johnson and try to bully you on the drive and use his tremendous athlete ability to score but that don't work in the NBA like it did in HS and it wasn't consistent in college while Little looks quick as hell.

I saw him early on this season and he looked confused and kinda slow.

[Axolotl]

I was just looking at the stats of Cameron Reddish and Nassir Little. They seem to be pretty close in advanced stats, and some seem to tilt in Little's favor (Win share, PER for example, both in totals and in conference).

I'm not a believer in stats only -approach, and don't have the time for adequate scouting, but there must be reasons why Reddish is considered as high as #3 and Little has apparently fallen to late(r) lottery in many estimates. What does the RealGM hive intelligence make of this?

[clyde21]

I was just looking at the stats of Cameron Reddish and Nassir Little. They seem to be pretty close in advanced stats, and some seem to tilt in Little's favor (Win share, PER for example, both in totals and in conference).

I'm not a believer in stats only -approach, and don't have the time for adequate scouting, but there must be reasons why Reddish is considered as high as #3 and Little has apparently fallen to late(r) lottery in many estimates. What does the RealGM hive intelligence make of this?

yea, the whole situation around how people perceive Nas is getting weird.

and I posted this earlier, but compare him to Kevin Knox last season, he is better across the board from an advanced stats standpoint:



yet...Knox was the 9th overall pick in what was a stronger lotto but people are talking about Little like he shouldn't even be a first rounder. It's really weird.

[peZt]

And Kevin Knox has been super bad so far. Not sure if that's a comparison you wanna make to help Little's case

[clyde21]

And Kevin Knox has been super bad so far. Not sure if that's a comparison you wanna make to help Little's case

how Knox is doing in the NBA is completely irrelevant to my point.

[Capn'O]

Cam had started to fall as well but then had his recent uptick that validates his abilities. Nas hasn't had that yet.

I dunno. When I look at the players moving in front of him I don't see anyone doing anything that would negate Nas' potential. His raw ability is just on another level from a Hunter or KZ or even Culver. While I like those players (and like their floors more) high in the draft, you need to shoot for the stars.

[King Ken]

Cam had started to fall as well but then had his recent uptick that validates his abilities. Nas hasn't had that yet.

I dunno. When I look at the players moving in front of him I don't see anyone doing anything that would negate Nas' potential. His raw ability is just on another level from a Hunter or KZ or even Culver. While I like those players (and like their floors more) high in the draft, you need to shoot for the stars.

Depends on the team honestly

[akhan786]

I was just looking at the stats of Cameron Reddish and Nassir Little. They seem to be pretty close in advanced stats, and some seem to tilt in Little's favor (Win share, PER for example, both in totals and in conference).

I'm not a believer in stats only -approach, and don't have the time for adequate scouting, but there must be reasons why Reddish is considered as high as #3 and Little has apparently fallen to late(r) lottery in many estimates. What does the RealGM hive intelligence make of this?

yea, the whole situation around how people perceive Nas is getting weird.

and I posted this earlier, but compare him to Kevin Knox last season, he is better across the board from an advanced stats standpoint:



yet...Knox was the 9th overall pick in what was a stronger lotto but people are talking about Little like he shouldn't even be a first rounder. It's really weird.

It’s the Roy Williams special