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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#181 » by Leslie Forman » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:07 am

clyde21 wrote:Cam is two things away from being a legit elite prospect: a better handle and a more consistent shot. obviously easier said than done but the baseline talent is there in spades

You can say this for literally every single wing that isn't.

At this point Reddish is nothing more than another Marquis Teague. He's a flat out bad offensive player at the college level. You're drafting him on nothing more than high school hype. At the same time, for his sake he needs to leave this year while he's still at least a first rounder, or else he could end up being another James McAdoo.
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#182 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:05 pm

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clyde21 wrote:Cam is two things away from being a legit elite prospect: a better handle and a more consistent shot. obviously easier said than done but the baseline talent is there in spades

You can say this for literally every single wing that isn't.

At this point Reddish is nothing more than another Marquis Teague. He's a flat out bad offensive player at the college level. You're drafting him on nothing more than high school hype. At the same time, for his sake he needs to leave this year while he's still at least a first rounder, or else he could end up being another James McAdoo.


not really. saying someone like if Reddish can shoot consistently is much different than say, Tyler Bey who doesn't really have any semblance of an outside shot. He already shows nice form on his jump shop and again, the baseline talent is all there. Just needs to be more consistent in that department.
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#183 » by shakes0 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 8:56 pm

to me, Reddish very much looks the part of a big time wing scorer at the next level. His shot isn't falling which is a little baffling because he looks like he should be making a lot more. His form looks really good and he was known as a shooter before he got to college.

His bad shooting is a concern, but I still have him as a top 5 player in this draft just because he looks the part.
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Post#184 » by BostonCouchGM » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:39 am

shakes0 wrote:to me, Reddish very much looks the part of a big time wing scorer at the next level. His shot isn't falling which is a little baffling because he looks like he should be making a lot more. His form looks really good and he was known as a shooter before he got to college.

His bad shooting is a concern, but I still have him as a top 5 player in this draft just because he looks the part.


classic case of looks like Tarzan plays like Jane. He has terrible feel for the game, a suspect handle, and average at everything else. I don't think he's a good prospect tbh. He's similar to Justin Jackson as a prospect and SAC will be regretting that pick for a decade.
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Post#185 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:43 am

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shakes0 wrote:to me, Reddish very much looks the part of a big time wing scorer at the next level. His shot isn't falling which is a little baffling because he looks like he should be making a lot more. His form looks really good and he was known as a shooter before he got to college.

His bad shooting is a concern, but I still have him as a top 5 player in this draft just because he looks the part.


classic case of looks like Tarzan plays like Jane. He has terrible feel for the game, a suspect handle, and average at everything else. I don't think he's a good prospect tbh. He's similar to Justin Jackson as a prospect and SAC will be regretting that pick for a decade.


I agree with a lot of this. But I will say he isnt just average defensively. Compared to the other top lotto guys, I think Hunter and Zion are the only two that are better defenders.
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#186 » by clyde21 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:26 pm

posted this in the RJ thread but deserves to be in the Cam one

his percentages from 3 --

out of conference: 33%

in conference: 37%

last 4 games: 43%

good to see steady improvement in this department.

if he can build on that now and use it start driving to the basket and become more of a drive-and-kick threat he becomes even more intriguing.
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Post#187 » by Patsfan1081 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:01 pm

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BostonCouchGM wrote:
shakes0 wrote:to me, Reddish very much looks the part of a big time wing scorer at the next level. His shot isn't falling which is a little baffling because he looks like he should be making a lot more. His form looks really good and he was known as a shooter before he got to college.

His bad shooting is a concern, but I still have him as a top 5 player in this draft just because he looks the part.


classic case of looks like Tarzan plays like Jane. He has terrible feel for the game, a suspect handle, and average at everything else. I don't think he's a good prospect tbh. He's similar to Justin Jackson as a prospect and SAC will be regretting that pick for a decade.


I agree with a lot of this. But I will say he isnt just average defensively. Compared to the other top lotto guys, I think Hunter and Zion are the only two that are better defenders.


Reddish might also be thee best at creating offense from his defense, I don't remember seeing anyone ever catch so many guys sleeping brining the ball back. I know his motor has been questioned but I also think we don't see his full rep because Zion and Barrett are so good at attacking the paint. I still think he's a pretty safe pick if you have a mid lottery slot, Justin Jackson would be one of the last names I'd think of.
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Post#188 » by MemphisX » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:07 pm

I see Cam as very Khris Middletonish or a bigger version of Mikal Bridges. If he ever gets back to creating like he did before Duke, he goes to another level.
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Post#189 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:44 pm

I think if Cam keeps up his play from the last 3 games (yes I know very small sample), he will play himself into the 2nd pick. I think he has outplayed RJ over the last 3 games and his game if it clicks (I know that's a pretty big if when talking about Cam) translates very well to the current NBA.
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Post#190 » by RipCity71252 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:47 pm

The tough part for Cam for me is that I don't think he'll have the physicality/strength/quick twitch+explosive athl./off ball IQ to be one of those super high impact defensive wings. So it'll come down to how much he can improve on his handle, quickness with the ball, decision making and shooting mechanics to become a more well rounded offensive player and less of a high variability guy who relies so much on volume 3pt shooting to be valuable.

So yeah, still really like Cam but just think there's a little too much variability to his projection on both sides of the ball and without enough upside to be high impact guy on one side to be someone I'd feel comfortable taking #2.

Right now, Hayes is probably my guy at that spot.
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Post#191 » by 23-7 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:30 am

Is cam a better prospect or Kevin Knox?
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Post#192 » by btuned » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:54 am

Is there any reason why there's little comp to him to Otto Porter Jr? Seems like a similar mold - high end spectrum / advanced 3&D player.
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Post#193 » by clyde21 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:22 am

23-7 wrote:Is cam a better prospect or Kevin Knox?


I think so. Better playmaking potential and a better defender.
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Post#194 » by Fat » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:27 am

23-7 wrote:Is cam a better prospect or Kevin Knox?


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Post#195 » by bennjuiced34 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:50 am

I really like Reddish. His tools and traits play up bigly. I think what gets lost is that he's the ring leader for that Duke super team. He committed 1st. And got RJ and Zion on board. Knowing full well his stock/usage would take a hit. That's pretty unselfish man. I'm 'team guy' guy. **** matters.

His best basketball is ahead of him which I really like. Plus his assertiveness of late offensively is nice to see. Seems to be understanding his value and impact. Without breaking the chemistry of his team.

Also a fan of players who elevate as the season goes on so hopefully he keeps it up.

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Post#196 » by Ball4life32 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:11 pm

23-7 wrote:Is cam a better prospect or Kevin Knox?

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Post#197 » by Hoopz Afrik » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:16 pm

bennjuiced34 wrote:I really like Reddish. His tools and traits play up bigly. I think what gets lost is that he's the ring leader for that Duke super team. He committed 1st. And got RJ and Zion on board. Knowing full well his stock/usage would take a hit. That's pretty unselfish man. I'm 'team guy' guy. **** matters.

His best basketball is ahead of him which I really like. Plus his assertiveness of late offensively is nice to see. Seems to be understanding his value and impact. Without breaking the chemistry of his team.

Also a fan of players who elevate as the season goes on so hopefully he keeps it up.

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Precisely this. Agreed on all fronts. Seems to be trending upward and his willingness to sacrifice some of the personal glory in for the betterment of the team is quite indicative of his sports character. I was nervous about things a few weeks ago but he's more than quelled my concerns.....also, his defense. Man, he deserves a lot more credit that he's getting for his effort/impact on that side of the ball.
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Post#198 » by King Ken » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:38 pm

23-7 wrote:Is cam a better prospect or Kevin Knox?

They are the on the same level but Cam is a better prospect, especially long term.
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Post#199 » by Illmatic12 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:53 pm

btuned wrote:Is there any reason why there's little comp to him to Otto Porter Jr? Seems like a similar mold - high end spectrum / advanced 3&D player.

I've actually seen many people make that comparison believe it or not, but imo Reddish has more of an offensive pedigree . Porter Jr didn't play AAU ball and was never known as a bigtime scorer, he was more of an all-around prospect who shined in Georgetown within their Princeton offense.

Reddish has shown out at on the D1 prep circuit, Nike EYBL etc and has a track record of proven scoring talent. I'm not reading too much into this season at Duke, he's a 19yo kid and in a very weird situation where the offense is set up for his more hyped teammates to showcase themselves. I see Reddish as having a Paul George type persona, due to his laidback nature he may be reluctant to take on an assertive role early on BUT eventually will grow into his talent.

But yeah, I think he's going to be a better defender than Otto Porter Jr (stronger/more athletic).. doesn't have the midrange shooting touch, but he's got a better jumper off the dribble and superior handle. OP Jr couldn't pull up off the dribble like this


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Post#200 » by King Ken » Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:03 pm

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btuned wrote:Is there any reason why there's little comp to him to Otto Porter Jr? Seems like a similar mold - high end spectrum / advanced 3&D player.

I've actually seen many people make that comparison believe it or not, but imo Reddish has more of an offensive pedigree . Porter Jr didn't play AAU ball and was never known as a bigtime scorer, he was more of an all-around prospect who shined in Georgetown within their Princeton offense.

Reddish has shown out at on the D1 prep circuit, Nike EYBL etc and has a track record of proven scoring talent. I'm not reading too much into this season at Duke, he's a 19yo kid and in a very weird situation where the offense is set up for his more hyped teammates to showcase themselves. I see Reddish as having a Paul George type persona, due to his laidback nature he may be reluctant to take on an assertive role early on BUT eventually will grow into his talent.

But yeah, I think he's going to be a better defender than Otto Porter Jr (stronger/more athletic).. doesn't have the midrange shooting touch, but he's got a better jumper off the dribble and superior handle. OP Jr couldn't pull up off the dribble like this


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Let's be clear, Cam hasn't shown us anything consistently outside of a potential volume 3 point shooter. His mid range is no where near a strength at this stage much less the NBA.

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