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Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline

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Are you satisfied with the Hawks lack of activity this trade deadline?

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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#41 » by Vae Victus » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:05 pm

jayu70 wrote:Interesting....

Lin said he’s going to let his agent handle the potential buyout conversations. And in what could be a way to deflect giving a direct answer, he said he wasn’t aware of any talks between his agent and the organization in terms of a potential buyout. “Until I hear otherwise, I’m committed,” Lin said. “I’m here every day, and I think we’ve been playing good. I think in the last 25 games, we’re 12-13. We’re building something. I just want to stay healthy and enjoy the game, and I’ll let my agents do their work.”
– viaThe Athletic


If Lin’s representation can find a team that is willing to play him more than the time he’s getting now from the Hawks, he’ll likely request a buyout. Lin has been adamant that coming off the bench isn’t his preferred role, and it never will be. That’s just his competitive nature. “I’m going to try to do my best, though, with whatever assignment I have,” he said. “It doesn’t mean I don’t have aspirations to be a starter or to get heavy minutes or even to come off the bench and play more or be more involved. Those are all very real thoughts.”
– viaThe Athletic


Most of the league would love to pickup Lin to play backup combo guard on the pro rated minimum, dirt cheap for a . However since Schlenk didnt want to take long term bad money (Knight, Leonard, Turner, etc), Lin couldnt really fetch back a good enough asset on his own due to his own contracts size.

Lin hasnt been good enough to have a team guarantee him a starting role playing 28-32 mins a game, which is naturally his goal.

The question is which teams out there can guarantee him 20-28 mins a game whether to spot start or come off the bench and be a playoff contender. Playing for a playoff team helps a player's value immense, as Lin would know first hand how playing for the blatantly tanking Lakers for 1 year nearly destroyed his value (despite posting decent stats), and playing for CHA for a year boosted it significantly where he got a nice contract from BRK to be their starter (which sadly was full of sorrow due to injuries).

His agent really needs to target PHI.IND, MIA, WAS, SA, and SAC as theyre all in playoffs or chasing and are weak at PG. He can easily get same or more mins at those places with a chance ot showcase himself in the playoffs if he helps em get or do well.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#42 » by peoriabird » Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:29 pm

Lin will have very little value going forward because of his injury history and limited actual ability...Projects to be a back up vs a starter at this point in his career. I don't think that any exposure will elevate his actual earning potential going forward.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#43 » by AStubbs7 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:44 pm

kg01 wrote:
AStubbs7 wrote:Schlenk continues to operate way over his head. A bad team like this doesn’t just sit back idle at the deadline. Need to constantly be trying to add assets or get better.


Sounds like they were offered crap. If you're offered crap, you don't just take it so you can get yer name in the paper.

There are probably 4 or 5 players who are worth anything on the team and should have a place in the future. Who cares if they get pennies on the dollar for Jeremy Lin? The type of trash that makes up this roster is 100% replaceable.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#44 » by lethalweapon3 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:15 pm

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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#45 » by Spud2nique » Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:48 pm

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:lol: what the... that’s a first. Kinda like making a fake biz card at kinkos! Love it Mack get yours!
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#46 » by kg01 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:22 am

AStubbs7 wrote:
kg01 wrote:
AStubbs7 wrote:Schlenk continues to operate way over his head. A bad team like this doesn’t just sit back idle at the deadline. Need to constantly be trying to add assets or get better.


Sounds like they were offered crap. If you're offered crap, you don't just take it so you can get yer name in the paper.

There are probably 4 or 5 players who are worth anything on the team and should have a place in the future. Who cares if they get pennies on the dollar for Jeremy Lin? The type of trash that makes up this roster is 100% replaceable.


Pennies bring you more "trash" so what's the point?

Setting a precedent that you'll accept crap is a dangerous thing.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#47 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:36 pm

NBA stars stuck on bad teams after the trade deadline

Kent Bazemore

Bazemore is another example of a player who probably should have been traded before the deadline. The Hawks are more concerned about getting their young players playing time than winning games, at this point. And Atlanta already has veteran leadership in the form of Vince Carter and a handful of others, so it’s not exactly clear why it was necessary to keep Bazemore.

The veteran shooting guard is averaging a career-high 13.3 points per game this season. There had to have been some interest in his ability at the deadline. In any case, Bazemore is stuck on the Hawks for the rest of this season, and has a $19 million player option for next season if he wants to remain in Atlanta.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#48 » by Atlanta Hawk Fan » Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:42 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:
NBA stars stuck on bad teams after the trade deadline

Kent Bazemore

Bazemore is another example of a player who probably should have been traded before the deadline. The Hawks are more concerned about getting their young players playing time than winning games, at this point. And Atlanta already has veteran leadership in the form of Vince Carter and a handful of others, so it’s not exactly clear why it was necessary to keep Bazemore.

The veteran shooting guard is averaging a career-high 13.3 points per game this season. There had to have been some interest in his ability at the deadline. In any case, Bazemore is stuck on the Hawks for the rest of this season, and has a $19 million player option for next season if he wants to remain in Atlanta.
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Wait, what? Kent Bazemore is a "star" now? lol
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#49 » by jayu70 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:48 pm

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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#50 » by Atlanta Hawk Fan » Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:56 pm

kg01 wrote:Setting a precedent that you'll accept crap is a dangerous thing.


Waiving a player does the same damage, though. I'd rather have someone else responsible for his salary and a late second than us responsible for nearly all of his salary and no pick.

It also makes the original decision to acquire Lin look even more suspect than it did back then. I was up in arms over the trade because Denver gave Brooklyn a first for that space when we could have just acquired the first directly instead. But I got around the idea that Lin was mentoring Trae and had value for player development. Now I can't use Lin's role in player development to prop up the original trade anymore when it is clear that we don't actually value that him in that way.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#51 » by kg01 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:07 pm

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kg01 wrote:Setting a precedent that you'll accept crap is a dangerous thing.


Waiving a player does the same damage, though. I'd rather have someone else responsible for his salary and a late second than us responsible for nearly all of his salary and no pick.


I agree with this, actually. Should hold off on buying dudes out 'til after the playoff-eligibility moratorium. Go full-Dell Demps on dees foos.

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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#52 » by jayu70 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:09 pm

Atlanta Hawk Fan wrote:
kg01 wrote:Setting a precedent that you'll accept crap is a dangerous thing.


Waiving a player does the same damage, though. I'd rather have someone else responsible for his salary and a late second than us responsible for nearly all of his salary and no pick.

It also makes the original decision to acquire Lin look even more suspect than it did back then. I was up in arms over the trade because Denver gave Brooklyn a first for that space when we could have just acquired the first directly instead. But I got around the idea that Lin was mentoring Trae and had value for player development. Now I can't use Lin's role in player development to prop up the original trade anymore when it is clear that we don't actually value that him in that way.

Hated the iriginal trade for Lin and a distant 2nd, orefered the Faried Denver 1st. Now we can't even get a 2nd for Lin.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#53 » by High 5 » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:17 pm

There was some drawback to the Denver trade that made the late first not super appealing, but I forget what it was.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#54 » by Atlanta Hawk Fan » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:44 pm

jayu70 wrote:
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kg01 wrote:Setting a precedent that you'll accept crap is a dangerous thing.


Waiving a player does the same damage, though. I'd rather have someone else responsible for his salary and a late second than us responsible for nearly all of his salary and no pick.

It also makes the original decision to acquire Lin look even more suspect than it did back then. I was up in arms over the trade because Denver gave Brooklyn a first for that space when we could have just acquired the first directly instead. But I got around the idea that Lin was mentoring Trae and had value for player development. Now I can't use Lin's role in player development to prop up the original trade anymore when it is clear that we don't actually value that him in that way.

Hated the iriginal trade for Lin and a distant 2nd, orefered the Faried Denver 1st. Now we can't even get a 2nd for Lin.


Yeah, you and I both did for sure.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#55 » by bws94 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:09 am

Yeah, Lin's off to Toronto. As a long-time Knick fan that became a Lin fan during Linsanity and followed Lin to various teams, Atlanta has been the classiest organization of all he's played for. You guys treated Lin really well and this is just a rehabbing Lin, not a full-out Lin like he was on Charlotte.

Love Rathbun and Nique, Stinger, all those guys. I think this team is fun to watch and will be for a long time as long as Collins, Trae and Huerter stay healthy. Good to see Bembry have a healthy season. Love his motor.

I'll check in here from time to time and check out some Hawks' game. I like the team and organization and this is a solid board without some of the crazy stuff that goes on at other boards.

I guess Schlenk really didn't do well this trade season. But, who knows, maybe there's a big pick coming up for the next season.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#56 » by IheartTHEhurt » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:52 am

bws94 wrote:Yeah, Lin's off to Toronto. As a long-time Knick fan that became a Lin fan during Linsanity and followed Lin to various teams, Atlanta has been the classiest organization of all he's played for. You guys treated Lin really well and this is just a rehabbing Lin, not a full-out Lin like he was on Charlotte.

Love Rathbun and Nique, Stinger, all those guys. I think this team is fun to watch and will be for a long time as long as Collins, Trae and Huerter stay healthy. Good to see Bembry have a healthy season. Love his motor.

I'll check in here from time to time and check out some Hawks' game. I like the team and organization and this is a solid board without some of the crazy stuff that goes on at other boards.

I guess Schlenk really didn't do well this trade season. But, who knows, maybe there's a big pick coming up for the next season.



Wait a minute.. Lin has a traveling fanbase?
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#57 » by bws94 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:14 am

IheartTHEhurt wrote:
bws94 wrote:Yeah, Lin's off to Toronto. As a long-time Knick fan that became a Lin fan during Linsanity and followed Lin to various teams, Atlanta has been the classiest organization of all he's played for. You guys treated Lin really well and this is just a rehabbing Lin, not a full-out Lin like he was on Charlotte.

Love Rathbun and Nique, Stinger, all those guys. I think this team is fun to watch and will be for a long time as long as Collins, Trae and Huerter stay healthy. Good to see Bembry have a healthy season. Love his motor.

I'll check in here from time to time and check out some Hawks' game. I like the team and organization and this is a solid board without some of the crazy stuff that goes on at other boards.

I guess Schlenk really didn't do well this trade season. But, who knows, maybe there's a big pick coming up for the next season.



Wait a minute.. Lin has a traveling fanbase?


Pay attention, :D
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#58 » by AStubbs7 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:20 am

A bad trade to acquire Lin ends in even worse fashion to buy him out and hand him over to the Raptors. Schlenk gonna Schlenk.
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Re: Why Hawks stayed quiet at deadline 

Post#59 » by dms269 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:40 am

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It looks way too similar to this:
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