Buyouts

[celticfan42487]

Ainge is a loser if his does this. He offered the picks that are Smart, Rozier, Brown, and Tatum (as well as several other picks) in exchange for Anthony Davis when this rebuild started. To hand those players over now with more picks as if it was the same price to be paid is a total bitch move. To do it with nothing but one year left on his contract is pathetic. If Ainge includes Brown and Tatum in a deal for Davis he deserves to get turned out like he most likely will.

Could you imagine Pat Riley making that trade?

It's better than offering 4 first round picks for Frank the Ki, idk does he have a nickname.

Win rings or Win lotteries.

No it isn't that all it is knowing the difference. Ainge was offering the picks that eventually became Rozier, Hunter, Yabusele, and Zizic for Justise Winslow the picks where impeding his cap clearing for the next season and most teams knew this and wanted him to get burned for his pick gluttony. Which is why Riley didn't take the deal either the issue wasn't trying to trade for Kaminsky or Jordan & Co. turning down the deal it was turning down the deal and then drafting Kaminsky who they easily could have gotten a few picks later.

I'm not familiar where all those picks were taken, but wasn't Rozier and Yabu mid first rounders?

I get it you still have to draft the right person, but not taking a trade of one mid first with no real talent left for 2 more shots at the mid first round and two more late firsts.... that seems like a fail of the highest order. If you want to say not for Ainge because roster spots which... i mean it worked out so that doesn't seem true. It's at least a huge fail then for CHA. For the Heat I could see Riley not wanting to play ball purely because of the rivalry between him and Ainge as well as his franchise and the Celtics at the time.

[sully00]

It's better than offering 4 first round picks for Frank the Ki, idk does he have a nickname.

Win rings or Win lotteries.

No it isn't that all it is knowing the difference. Ainge was offering the picks that eventually became Rozier, Hunter, Yabusele, and Zizic for Justise Winslow the picks where impeding his cap clearing for the next season and most teams knew this and wanted him to get burned for his pick gluttony. Which is why Riley didn't take the deal either the issue wasn't trying to trade for Kaminsky or Jordan & Co. turning down the deal it was turning down the deal and then drafting Kaminsky who they easily could have gotten a few picks later.

I'm not familiar where all those picks were taken, but wasn't Rozier and Yabu mid first rounders?

I get it you still have to draft the right person, but not taking a trade of one mid first with no real talent left for 2 more shots at the mid first round and two more late firsts.... that seems like a fail of the highest order. If you want to say not for Ainge because roster spots which... i mean it worked out so that doesn't seem true. It's at least a huge fail then for CHA. For the Heat I could see Riley not wanting to play ball purely because of the rivalry between him and Ainge as well as his franchise and the Celtics at the time.

It wasn't for roster spots that Ainge made the trade he was offering the same package for any pick that would land Justise Winslow that was a projected top 3-5 pick. He really wanted the player that in hindsight as with the rest of that entire draft was a head scratcher but so be it. Yes Ainge was able to thread the needle on all the draft picks over those two drafts by stashing Zizic and Yabu, making the deal with Memphis for Deyonta Davis for the Clippers pIck. But he also still ended up waiving a couple of first round picks before their deals expired over the roster crunch.

Absolutely yes to your point that it was a fail by CHA they are the one's who made a clown show out of this situation. Turning down the deal isn't a big deal as long as your taking the guy who was supposed to be a top 3-5 pick and is now sliding. I have no problem with Riley (who seems to hate the draft anyhow) just taking the player that is probably what you should do. But if your not going to take the player then you take the deal but CHA couldn't because they hadn't done the research on the players in the draft to know who to pick.

[KevinGamble34]

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[Parliament10]

What the Hell is Danny waiting for?

Go get Enes Kanter, etc, etc.

[KevinGamble34]

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[Ascrilas]

Please no Kanter. A player whose defense was seen as to bad too even be a player for the Knicks? Nah, no need to touch him.

However, I'd love to see Dedmon if the Hawks buy him out, too. Would be a perfect fit imo and could replace Baynes. And even if we're all healthy, he'd still fill a need so Theis doesn't have to bang with the big bodies.

[ddb]

The issue with buyout players and signing with Boston right now is that Boston already has too many guys and not enough minutes. The only thing I see Boston doing is bringing in a big...but it won't be a Kanter or anything like that. More likely to be a fringe NBA guy that has some miles and can be used a depth.

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[ZeroTolerance]

I'd rather have Gortat than Kantner....but if things keep going in the wrong direction, I'd rather just play the "Time Lord" and get him some much needed experience with the front line players....

[leper-con]

Shaq was on record having dinner with Wyc and they were waiting on a big buyout.
They seemed like they had someone in mind.

[BillTheGOAT]

Shaq was on record having dinner with Wyc and they were waiting on a big buyout.
They seemed like they had someone in mind.

DJ

[reload141]

Shaq was on record having dinner with Wyc and they were waiting on a big buyout.
They seemed like they had someone in mind.

Makes me so depressed when thinking about when Shaq was on this team.

So much potential and if he didn’t get injured I reckon we would’ve went all the way.

[GoCeltics123]

Shaq was on record having dinner with Wyc and they were waiting on a big buyout.
They seemed like they had someone in mind.

Makes me so depressed when thinking about when Shaq was on this team.

So much potential and if he didn’t get injured I reckon we would’ve went all the way.

That first game against the Heat, when he had that dunk on the fast break off the Rondo pass, I thought that having him in the paint would be too much for the Heat.

Sadly that wasn't exactly the case, and then of course the Perk trade happened. Which was a good idea but definitely failed in the short-term (hopefully not the long-term with the Memphis Pick).

Also where did you see that buyout part? All I see is that Shaq met with Wyc, who told him they're keeping the team together for now:

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[leper-con]

Shaq was on record having dinner with Wyc and they were waiting on a big buyout.
They seemed like they had someone in mind.

Makes me so depressed when thinking about when Shaq was on this team.

So much potential and if he didn’t get injured I reckon we would’ve went all the way.

That first game against the Heat, when he had that dunk on the fast break off the Rondo pass, I thought that having him in the paint would be too much for the Heat.

Sadly that wasn't exactly the case, and then of course the Perk trade happened. Which was a good idea but definitely failed in the short-term (hopefully not the long-term with the Memphis Pick).

Also where did you see that buyout part? All I see is that Shaq met with Wyc, who told him they're keeping the team together for now:

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He talked about it on TV but didn't want to mention names.

[GoCeltics123]

Makes me so depressed when thinking about when Shaq was on this team.

So much potential and if he didn’t get injured I reckon we would’ve went all the way.

That first game against the Heat, when he had that dunk on the fast break off the Rondo pass, I thought that having him in the paint would be too much for the Heat.

Sadly that wasn't exactly the case, and then of course the Perk trade happened. Which was a good idea but definitely failed in the short-term (hopefully not the long-term with the Memphis Pick).

Also where did you see that buyout part? All I see is that Shaq met with Wyc, who told him they're keeping the team together for now:

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He talked about it on TV but didn't want to mention names.

Kanter or Lopez, I'd guess.

DJ isn't being bought out because he's buddies with KD and

[GoCeltics123]

Makes me so depressed when thinking about when Shaq was on this team.

So much potential and if he didn’t get injured I reckon we would’ve went all the way.

That first game against the Heat, when he had that dunk on the fast break off the Rondo pass, I thought that having him in the paint would be too much for the Heat.

Sadly that wasn't exactly the case, and then of course the Perk trade happened. Which was a good idea but definitely failed in the short-term (hopefully not the long-term with the Memphis Pick).

Also where did you see that buyout part? All I see is that Shaq met with Wyc, who told him they're keeping the team together for now:

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He talked about it on TV but didn't want to mention names.

Kanter or Lopez, I'd guess.

DJ isn't being bought out by NY because he's buddies with KD and yeah we all know where this is going

[fallguy]

Shaq was on record having dinner with Wyc and they were waiting on a big buyout.
They seemed like they had someone in mind.

Makes me so depressed when thinking about when Shaq was on this team.

So much potential and if he didn’t get injured I reckon we would’ve went all the way.

The starting 5 with Shaq was the best of the entire KG era. It absolutely destroyed teams. Had he been healthy they'd have blitzed their way through the east.

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[BigTrade92]

Shaq was on record having dinner with Wyc and they were waiting on a big buyout.
They seemed like they had someone in mind.

Makes me so depressed when thinking about when Shaq was on this team.

So much potential and if he didn’t get injured I reckon we would’ve went all the way.

The starting 5 with Shaq was the best of the entire KG era. It absolutely destroyed teams. Had he been healthy they'd have blitzed their way through the east.

Agreed.

I still say trading Perkins cost us a title too.

Ainge panicked after Marquis Daniels went down, as he was worried there would be no relief for Pierce.

Instead, he traded the only healthy Center and gambled on an old Shaq and washed up Jermaine O’Neal....and in the end, neither stayed healthy and we relied on Nenad Kristic in the playoffs at the 5..........yeah it obviously didn’t work.

[mwhis21]

The issue with buyout players and signing with Boston right now is that Boston already has too many guys and not enough minutes. The only thing I see Boston doing is bringing in a big...but it won't be a Kanter or anything like that. More likely to be a fringe NBA guy that has some miles and can be used a depth.

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It’s gonna be a Keith Bogans deal. Good money to just hang out before being traded.

[Kalela]

Shaq was on record having dinner with Wyc and they were waiting on a big buyout.
They seemed like they had someone in mind.

Makes me so depressed when thinking about when Shaq was on this team.

So much potential and if he didn’t get injured I reckon we would’ve went all the way.

Even though he could barely move, those Rondo to Shaq lops were awesome. Having someone like a younger Shaq on your team just gives you such an unfair advantage.