BadHombre wrote:pepe1991 wrote:I can't speak about others, but to me Smart, Jabari , Stauskas, Gordon, Embiid, Wiggins and everybody else from 2014 draft class are pretty much finished products.
Some small improvments will probably happen for some of them ,but overall i just don't see scenario where some from that group will now make huge leap in development.
5 years passed by, guys from draft class have between 250- 380 games under their belts, between 6000-9000 min played.
10 of 14 ( 9 of 14 if you don't count Wiggins) were already traded at least once.
After allstar game in 2017, 2 years ago Gordon averaged 16 ppg, 6,6 rpg, 1,9 apg on 50%FG and 28% for 3. in 31 mpg.
During April of 2017 he averaged 19 ppg, 8 rpg and shot 41,7% for 3 ( small sample size, 6 games).
Now, 2 years later Gordon is averaging : 15,8 ppg, 7,3 rpg, 3,5 apg, 44% FG and 34% for 3.
Overall only big difference is his 3%, but even that thing goes up and down through a season a lot. Last year he started guns blazing just to shoot below 30% for 3 months.
As you can see,apart from nice boost in assists ( and increesed playing time and increesed turnovers) he is pretty much similar to his production he had 3 seasons ago. But people for years are so desparate for star that they want to see more in him than he can offer.
But Magic have star, problem is that most of you hate a guy , but that's on you.
Did you watch those games two seasons ago? How anyone can say we’re watching the same AG is pretty absurd. AG wasn’t running point and facilitating like he is now, he wasn’t driving and getting to the rim like he is now.
Come on man. You know it’s true. His game has changed significantly. Just admit it. No one is saying he’s a star and no one has even uttered that kind of sentiment, so no one is asking you to concede that point, but he has developed and become a much more complete player now. That’s a good thing!
Sorry i just don't agree. Also to me Gordon is not running the offense.
Him,Evan and Vuc all have improved assist numbers. Because they are now placed in position to have more assist numbers. Pick what you want to present. Vuc , Gordon and Evan all DEVELOPED because of spike in assist numbers.
Or Vuc ,Evan and Gordon are now in situation on the floor where they can post up more APG.
You can't cherry pick, one can't "develop" with same results as others who are just " used better" . It's hypocrisy to think and i don't think you are hypocritical.
I just tend to belive it's more of being used in that manner more than his development.
Over time guys like Batum, Josh McRoberts, Lance all had career years in APG department under Cliff ( despite him always having Kemba to be first option ). Matter of fact Josh McRoberts (4,3 apg ) is double as much as he ever had in any other year.
My personal opinion is pretty clear, i think that this Gordon is his final form, hell i think that for 2 years now. 16-18 ppg player 7-8 rpg, 2-3 asssists , 0,8 steals , 0-8 blocks, > 55% TS , BPM >1,5 , net rating >3
I have 5 years of trackrecord to belive in it.