dockingsched wrote:walk with me wrote:Again speaking as an outsider...
I can’t tell anyone how to feel about magic and rob because I’m not a lakers fan. BUT, when you have Lebron on your team you’re essentially forefeiting your team over to him. 95% of decision making has to go through him and Klutch.
It happened in Miami
It happened in Cleveland once he came back
And now it’s happening in LA
I only say this so everyone understand how to temper their expectations. Lebron is the ultimate Ponzi scheme, you mortgage all your assets to let him have all the glory and deflect any of the blame. Once he’s leave your city all your assets are gone and you’re no longer built for sustainable success. Take it from a very long time heat fan, rob and magic may not be perfect but if Lebron wasn’t currently on the lakers the teams trajectory would be much better.
Klutch blew the ad trade and the rest of the nba didn’t want to participate because they’re sick of Klutch
Same goes with the Pg trade. You think PG would have scoffed at LA if Lebron coming wasn’t possible?
Now Klutch has isolated the younger guys and ruined team chemistry.
I hope I’m not speaking out of place but lakers fans should know the truth regarding the influence that Lebron has and the problems that come with making him a member of your team. Imo the problems aren’t worth it in the long run and that’s stated as a heat fan. Lakers fans may feel differently.
Edit:
Study the history of Lebron in miami
Study the history of Lebron in Cleveland
History is repeating itself. The only different is wade was waiting for LBJ in miami, Kyrie was waiting for LBJ in Cleveland. The lakers had nobody waiting for Lebron as the rest of the nba caught on to lebrons gimmick.
A question that never really seems to get answered when people talk about this idea that LeBron runs things....what exactly have superstar thirsty Magic and Rob done against their will just for Lebron that they wouldn’t have done on their own?
Well, the short answer to that is probably 'Nothing.'
But that's also probably a gross over-simplification.
I think the stain of collusion may be lifted enough to provide some more room for creativity if Klutch wasn't around... I think Klutch takes Magic from 'Loveably naive Legend' to 'Sinister Evil Mastermind' around the league...
That said, I'm not sure Magic and Rob would have had the balls to suggest a LeBron/AD pairing when they got LeBron, if it wasn't for LeBron/Klutch...
I just don't see the whole AD thing even being on the radar. In retrospect, our pursuit of AD sure felt like a team who thought the deal was in the bag... And then wanted it to be known that we did everything we could to get him once it became clear it wasn't going to happen...
So, IMO they're all bad-actors in this... LeBron/Klutch couldn't do this without Magic/Rob... And Magic/Rob wouldn't dream of doing it without LeBron/Klutch...
But I think Magic and Rob are more guilty of simply providing a forum for LeBron/Klutch to work... Whereas it feels like the heavy lifting is being done by Klutch...
Can't discount the fact that LeBron and Klutch now have a media company in LA either... They've moved in and set up shop in more ways than one... And I'm sure if the Lakers hadn't opened the door, they'd be doing it with Red White and Blue Cs on their chests across the hall..
Never have rice at Hanzo's house...