It's been 5 yrs. Can we now say Andrew Wiggins is a Bust?

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It's been 5 yrs. Can we now say Andrew Wiggins is a Bust? 

Post#1 » by uberhikari » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:08 pm

This is undoubtedly Wiggins' worst year of his career. His advanced stats are a horror show: 48.1 TS%, .5 WS (he will finish this season with less than 1 total WS :o ), .014 WS/48, -2 OBPM, -.5 VORP, -1.18 DRPM.

I understand it's difficult to say someone averaging 18 ppg is a bust, but at some point the advanced stats have to take precedence right?

(Also, Cleveland must be thanking their lucky stars that LeBron forced Gilbert to trade Wiggins for Love.)
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Post#2 » by Durant Durant » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:10 pm

not a bust but underwhelming. he's not a game changer.
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Post#3 » by Johnny Bball » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:10 pm

He's hardly a bust. He's just overpaid. And that isn't his fault.
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Post#4 » by dirkforpres » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:12 pm

Yes. He is really really bad out there.
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Post#5 » by Michael Jordan » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:16 pm

A bust isn't capable of putting up 20PPG over 5 seasons. Wiggins is just criminally overpaid.
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Post#6 » by BullyKing » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:16 pm

Johnny Bball wrote:He's hardly a bust. He's just overpaid. And that isn't his fault.


He has not improved one iota during his time in the NBA. Dude's got to shoulder some of the fault there.
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Post#7 » by K4P » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:16 pm

His perception lies on his max contract

It isn’t his fault Minny was dumb enough to max him
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Post#8 » by duppyy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:17 pm

Not a #1 pick but not a bust. Wonder how well he'd do as a bench player.
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Post#9 » by CelticsLV » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:23 pm

Michael Jordan wrote:A bust isn't capable of putting up 20PPG over 5 seasons. Wiggins is just criminally overpaid.


His FGA per game is almost equal to his PPG. Dude is flat out trash(bust) if you take into account that he was picked first and the hype that surrounded him.
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Post#10 » by timO » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:24 pm

the bust is who give him the max
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Post#11 » by Domejandro » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:26 pm

I’ll call him a bust at this point, his impact is terrible.
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Post#12 » by TheDominator273 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:27 pm

He's overpaid but he's very clearly an NBA caliber player which makes him not a bust. Disappointing sure, but definitely not a bust.
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Post#13 » by BR0D1E86 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:31 pm

KAT4PREZ wrote:His perception lies on his max contract

It isn’t his fault Minny was dumb enough to max him

He’s not very good without the max contract factored in either. He shoots a lot inefficiently. He really literally does nothing else at a higher level than “poor.” And he hasn’t improved since a real minor bump after his rookie season.
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Post#14 » by Michael Jordan » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:31 pm

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Michael Jordan wrote:A bust isn't capable of putting up 20PPG over 5 seasons. Wiggins is just criminally overpaid.


His FGA per game is almost equal to his PPG. Dude is flat out trash(bust) if you take into account that he was picked first and the hype that surrounded him.

Yeah but a bust is generally someone who isn't even good enough to be in the league.

Look at Bennet, Thabeet, Vesley, Bender, and other top 10 picks who aren't even in the league anymore. They're not in the same category as Wiggins.
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Post#15 » by Kurt Heimlich » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:33 pm

He's insanely overrated, even still (as noted by some responses). Even if he were paid a third of what he makes, he's still a big negative impact on both sides of the court as an inefficient chucker who doesn't defend consistently.
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Post#16 » by timO » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:34 pm

The worst thing is that he is regressing, chucking below .400 with his career average being .440
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Post#17 » by Amare_1_Knicks » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:36 pm

Not a bust, but he’s overpaid and not as good as he was pegged to be coming out of college. The contract he has is one of the worst in the league and he doesn’t look to be improving along any linear line.

He’s only 23, and his career averages to this point are 19.5/4/2 on 52%TS. He has years to improve, and he has some elite(?) athleticism to fall back on if nothing else. His work ethic is surely a legitimate concern, and it’s possible that he’s plateaued.
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Post#18 » by Karate Diop » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:39 pm

How much of the blame do we give Minneosta for failing to develop Wiggins? And how much of it is on Wiggins?

I mean is there any doubt for example that if Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson got 5 years of Wiggins that they would have gotten more out of him than the Wolves did? (Not saying it'd be a surefire home run he'd realize his potential as this isn't ALL on the Wolves and Wiggins is partially to blame, but it's interesting to discuss just what the split of culpability is)
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Re: It's been 5 yrs. Can we now say Andrew Wiggins is a Bust? 

Post#19 » by og15 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:41 pm

uberhikari wrote:This is undoubtedly Wiggins' worst year of his career. His advanced stats are a horror show: 48.1 TS%, .5 WS (he will finish this season with less than 1 total WS :o ), .014 WS/48, -2 OBPM, -.5 VORP, -1.18 DRPM.

I understand it's difficult to say someone averaging 18 ppg is a bust, but at some point the advanced stats have to take precedence right?

(Also, Cleveland must be thanking their lucky stars that LeBron forced Gilbert to trade Wiggins for Love.)

Well a #1 pick that's expected to be a superstar or at minimum All-Star can still be a bust (for a #1 pick) even if they are averaging 18 ppg.
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Re: It's been 5 yrs. Can we now say Andrew Wiggins is a Bust? 

Post#20 » by heatwillbeback » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:43 pm

I wouldn’t say bust because he is a serviceable starter.

But he has underperformed to expectations.

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