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Post#201 » by btuned » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:51 pm

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btuned wrote:Is there any reason why there's little comp to him to Otto Porter Jr? Seems like a similar mold - high end spectrum / advanced 3&D player.

I've actually seen many people make that comparison believe it or not, but imo Reddish has more of an offensive pedigree . Porter Jr didn't play AAU ball and was never known as a bigtime scorer, he was more of an all-around prospect who shined in Georgetown within their Princeton offense.

Reddish has shown out at on the D1 prep circuit, Nike EYBL etc and has a track record of proven scoring talent. I'm not reading too much into this season at Duke, he's a 19yo kid and in a very weird situation where the offense is set up for his more hyped teammates to showcase themselves. I see Reddish as having a Paul George type persona, due to his laidback nature he may be reluctant to take on an assertive role early on BUT eventually will grow into his talent.

But yeah, I think he's going to be a better defender than Otto Porter Jr (stronger/more athletic).. doesn't have the midrange shooting touch, but he's got a better jumper off the dribble and superior handle. OP Jr couldn't pull up off the dribble like this


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Let's be clear, Cam hasn't shown us anything consistently outside of a potential volume 3 point shooter. His mid range is no where near a strength at this stage much less the NBA.


Yeh most of the highlgihts ive seen of him are just 3 point shots, rarely anything else. Part of that may be a function of who he's playing with though given Barrett and Zion handle so much within the mid range -> basket areas.
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#202 » by clyde21 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:10 pm

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Illmatic12 wrote:I've actually seen many people make that comparison believe it or not, but imo Reddish has more of an offensive pedigree . Porter Jr didn't play AAU ball and was never known as a bigtime scorer, he was more of an all-around prospect who shined in Georgetown within their Princeton offense.

Reddish has shown out at on the D1 prep circuit, Nike EYBL etc and has a track record of proven scoring talent. I'm not reading too much into this season at Duke, he's a 19yo kid and in a very weird situation where the offense is set up for his more hyped teammates to showcase themselves. I see Reddish as having a Paul George type persona, due to his laidback nature he may be reluctant to take on an assertive role early on BUT eventually will grow into his talent.

But yeah, I think he's going to be a better defender than Otto Porter Jr (stronger/more athletic).. doesn't have the midrange shooting touch, but he's got a better jumper off the dribble and superior handle. OP Jr couldn't pull up off the dribble like this


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Let's be clear, Cam hasn't shown us anything consistently outside of a potential volume 3 point shooter. His mid range is no where near a strength at this stage much less the NBA.


Yeh most of the highlgihts ive seen of him are just 3 point shots, rarely anything else. Part of that may be a function of who he's playing with though given Barrett and Zion handle so much within the mid range -> basket areas.


well yea, he's been kind of relegated to being 'just' a 3pt shooter at this point so Zion and RJ have some room to attack the basket.
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Post#203 » by HomoSapien » Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:31 am

btuned wrote:Is there any reason why there's little comp to him to Otto Porter Jr? Seems like a similar mold - high end spectrum / advanced 3&D player.


Efficiency. That's the big reason. If Otto wasn't efficient he'd be just another role player.
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#204 » by kobyz » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:53 am

Is Robert Covington type 3 and D player a good comparison for him, or does he have more star potential than that like a lot saying?
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#205 » by Illmatic12 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:39 pm

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btuned wrote:Is there any reason why there's little comp to him to Otto Porter Jr? Seems like a similar mold - high end spectrum / advanced 3&D player.

I've actually seen many people make that comparison believe it or not, but imo Reddish has more of an offensive pedigree . Porter Jr didn't play AAU ball and was never known as a bigtime scorer, he was more of an all-around prospect who shined in Georgetown within their Princeton offense.

Reddish has shown out at on the D1 prep circuit, Nike EYBL etc and has a track record of proven scoring talent. I'm not reading too much into this season at Duke, he's a 19yo kid and in a very weird situation where the offense is set up for his more hyped teammates to showcase themselves. I see Reddish as having a Paul George type persona, due to his laidback nature he may be reluctant to take on an assertive role early on BUT eventually will grow into his talent.

But yeah, I think he's going to be a better defender than Otto Porter Jr (stronger/more athletic).. doesn't have the midrange shooting touch, but he's got a better jumper off the dribble and superior handle. OP Jr couldn't pull up off the dribble like this


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Let's be clear, Cam hasn't shown us anything consistently outside of a potential volume 3 point shooter. His mid range is no where near a strength at this stage much less the NBA.

I think you're misunderstanding me . I'm saying that he DOESN'T have the midrange game (compared to say an Otto Porter), but his potential as a 3pt shooter who can create unassisted looks is what makes him so intriguing.

6'9 , 7'1 wingspan and can shoot threes off the dribble or coming off screens.. plus athletic enough to attack closeouts, and doesn't have tunnel vision as a passer? Yeah sign me up, I can work with that.
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#206 » by Illmatic12 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 2:48 pm

kobyz wrote:Is Robert Covington type 3 and D player a good comparison for him, or does he have more star potential than that like a lot saying?

Covington can't dribble or attack closeouts really at all. He has poor court sense once he attempts to put the ball on the floor.
With Reddish, when defenders jump out at him he will be able to put the ball on the floor and do something productive with it.

He may not be exploding to the rim and dunking like say a Paul George, but he will make that secondary play in space to either score or get the D out of position.

I am not overly concerned about his shooting numbers. Bradley Beal shot 31% from 3pt at Florida in conference play (granted he was a more polished scorer underneath the arc and drew more FTs)
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Post#207 » by clyde21 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:07 pm

kobyz wrote:Is Robert Covington type 3 and D player a good comparison for him, or does he have more star potential than that like a lot saying?


it's a decent comparison in that Reddish is primarily a 3+D guy at this point but I think he has the capacity to be much more at the next level if he puts it all together
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Post#208 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:14 pm

kobyz wrote:Is Robert Covington type 3 and D player a good comparison for him, or does he have more star potential than that like a lot saying?


I think that would be a disappointing outcome for him. But ya if his handle never comes around I can see that. But no doubt you can see the flashes of the creation off the dribble that make you think potential star. The question is can he ever get that part of his game to be consistent.
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Post#209 » by Popa » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:20 am

I'm suprised at how unathletic he is and he isn't a young freshman either.
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Post#210 » by EvanZ » Thu Feb 21, 2019 1:55 am

Illmatic12 wrote:I am not overly concerned about his shooting numbers. Bradley Beal shot 31% from 3pt at Florida in conference play (granted he was a more polished scorer underneath the arc and drew more FTs)


Steph Curry is the greatest shooter of all time. So there's no reason Cam can't be. Is my thought.
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Post#211 » by PLO » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:49 am

TBH I thought he was the only guy who might have improved his stock a little bit for Duke out of tonight's game. He certainly has his warts but what he does looks very projectable to the NBA.
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Post#212 » by clyde21 » Wed Mar 6, 2019 2:17 am

Cam again almost invisible offensively tonight...the inconsistency kills me. Scored 27, then 5, then 19 and 17 and tonight 6.
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Post#213 » by kobyz » Wed Mar 6, 2019 9:52 am

How he compared to furkan korkemaz?
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#214 » by King Ken » Wed Mar 6, 2019 3:18 pm

clyde21 wrote:Cam again almost invisible offensively tonight...the inconsistency kills me. Scored 27, then 5, then 19 and 17 and tonight 6.

His lack of polish is noticeable. I noticed that these Westtown kids lack a lot of polish as prospects.
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#215 » by crows2 » Wed Mar 6, 2019 3:52 pm

If Reddish goes in the top 5, he'll have the second worst BPM, second lowest WS and lowest PER of any top 5 pick in the NCAA this decade (I included Williamson, Barrett and Morant in my research as well). Jaylen Brown is the only top 5 pick in any way comparable to Reddish in terms of lack of college production; in fact no other top 5 pick has performed anywhere near as poorly as Reddish in their draft year. It'd be a monumental leap of faith by any team who takes Reddish in the top 5. I wouldn't bank on him to all of a sudden become a positive player in the NBA when his college career has indicated the exact opposite.
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Post#216 » by clyde21 » Wed Mar 6, 2019 4:43 pm

still wildly too inconsistent offensively for me to be comfortable enough taking him in the top 5 even tho I love the baseline talent. his floor is quite low on that the end the discipline and focus issues are real for me.
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Post#217 » by eminence » Wed Mar 6, 2019 4:50 pm

He's a good defender, but I think the Covington comp is way out of line for even his defensive ceiling.
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Post#218 » by Stillwater » Wed Mar 6, 2019 4:56 pm

huge bust potential imo , but does possess the proto body and whatnot to back the hype coming in. He will still get picked in the top 10 based on upside in this draft probably, but I think it's fair too say he was overrated in as much as he has disappointed in college.
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#219 » by MemphisX » Thu Mar 7, 2019 10:25 am

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kobyz wrote:Is Robert Covington type 3 and D player a good comparison for him, or does he have more star potential than that like a lot saying?


I think that would be a disappointing outcome for him. But ya if his handle never comes around I can see that. But no doubt you can see the flashes of the creation off the dribble that make you think potential star. The question is can he ever get that part of his game to be consistent.



I still think an elite 3 and D guy like Covington would be an outstanding outcome. Especially a bit more diverse shot making ability.

His upside was always banking on him being a pseudo-PG. His handle has not translated. So I think that is out of the window as a n expectation. I still think in this draft that might be worthy of top 5 in some cases but it is way too late for him to show consistency worthy of locking in a top 3 pick.

Honestly, in this draft, after Zion my drafting would be likely be non-mainstream. So the trade down guys are right...if you know how far you can trade down.
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Re: Cameron Reddish 

Post#220 » by Coeur » Thu Mar 7, 2019 3:41 pm

He’s the second or the third pick. And the #1 team will look at him

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