Should we have kept Joe Harris?

mrtcsm · Post #1 » by **mrtcsm** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:03 pm

Watching the three point contest Saturday night I couldn't help but think about how our current Magic team could've used Joe Harris, considering we traded for him in 2016 just to waive him immediately. The guy is a good rotation player with an exceptional shooting form and can play some good defense.

Would you have rather kept Harris than give him up for cash and a swap of second round picks (which is what the team basically did by taking a 2017 protected 2nd rd pick from Sacramento owned by the Cavs and giving them the Blazers 2020 protected 2nd rd pick). I would be concerned with him playing SF and taking some of those minutes, specially now when we are seeing Isaac's development, but we would've made space for him in the rotation with the way he has been shooting the ball. Perhaps he could play the SG spot and taken some minutes from Fournier whom has been struggling all year. Your thoughts?

BadMofoPimp · Post #2 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:16 pm

I don't think anybody could have predicted that he would have developed as well as he has. He looked like scrub up until Brooklyn gave him minutes.

pepe1991 · Post #3 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:25 pm

In hindsight yes, dude is legit

p0peye · Post #4 » by **p0peye** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:32 pm

We had Joe Harris?

Post #5 » by **UCFJayBird** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:50 pm

p0peye wrote:We had Joe Harris?

My initial thought when I saw the thread was "Does he mean Tobias?"

pepe1991 · Post #6 » by **pepe1991** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:13 pm

Yes, was part of cavs trade in 2016 but we cut him same day. I think he was hurt during that time.

Post #7 » by **SOUL** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:33 pm

I totally forgot we had him.

Post #8 » by **Def Swami** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:34 pm

Hard to argue against it. Shooting 47% from 3 with 64.5% TS.

Blue_and_Whte · Post #9 » by **Blue_and_Whte** » Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:57 pm

UCFJayBird wrote:
p0peye wrote:We had Joe Harris?

My initial thought when I saw the thread was "Does he mean Tobias?"

yeah I had no idea we had him.
:lol:

yoyojw17 · Post #10 » by **yoyojw17** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 12:39 am

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p0peye wrote:We had Joe Harris?

I follow the magic all the time.... the mere fact that i agree with the reaction.... yeah..... it was obviously not clear prediction. But good for him!

basketballRob · Post #11 » by **basketballRob** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:20 am

Jake Layman is treading upwards too, by the time he's 27 like Harris he'll probably be shooting 45% on 3's.

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fendilim · Post #12 » by **fendilim** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:29 am

fendilim · Post #13 » by **fendilim** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 1:51 am

p0peye wrote:We had Joe Harris?

My initial reaction too. But I dont think he would develop into the type of player he is now had we kept him.

Your draft position pretty much predicts the type of player development your team invests on you. The earlier you are picked, the more time they invest. Thats why some teams prefer having secound round picks or late round picks as a stash player instead.

The Nets are in a different situation. They didnt have picks, so they invested on a lot of other guys. Joe has base skills, good basketball IQ and a high character guy. attributes that you can actually bet on.

MagicFrenchie · Post #14 » by **MagicFrenchie** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:34 am

p0peye wrote:We had Joe Harris?

my exact reaction

BlueBalls · Post #15 » by **BlueBalls** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:50 pm

The team we could build with ex-Magicians...gravy. It'd be a powerhouse.

I, also, forgot we had Joe Harris.

tiderulz · Post #16 » by **tiderulz** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:16 pm

many teams could play the card of "should we have kept player x who was young and hurt when we had him".

drsd · Post #17 » by **drsd** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:22 pm

tiderulz wrote:many teams could play the card of "should we have kept player x who was young and hurt when we had him".

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drsd · Post #18 » by **drsd** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 7:25 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I don't think anybody could have predicted that he would have developed as well as he has. He looked like scrub up until Brooklyn gave him minutes.

From NBA reference:

Transactions
June 23, 2011: Traded by the Orlando Magic (as a future 2014 2nd round draft pick) with a 2013 2nd round draft pick (Allen Crabbe was later selected) to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Justin Harper.

June 26, 2014: Drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers in the 2nd round (33rd pick) of the 2014 NBA Draft.

July 22, 2014: Signed a multi-year contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers

January 20, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 21, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 24, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 25, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 27, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 28, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 29, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

February 2, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

February 5, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

February 8, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

February 12, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

February 18, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

March 20, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

March 23, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

March 31, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 1, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 3, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 10, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 13, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 15, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 18, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 20, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 13, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 19, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 20, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 21, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 28, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 30, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

December 2, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

December 17, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

December 19, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

December 20, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 12, 2016: Traded by the Cleveland Cavaliers with cash considerations and a 2017 2nd round draft pick to the Orlando Magic for a 2020 2nd round draft pick. (2017 2nd-Rd Pick was protected pick from SAC and did not convey) (2020 2nd-rd pick is protected pick from POR)

January 12, 2016: Waived by the Orlando Magic.

Really hard to see that the Magic made any mistakes here.

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rusoopE · Post #19 » by **rusoopE** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:14 pm

Should we have kept billups? Ben Wallace? Magette? Magic killer pachulia? Where's captain hindsight when we need him?

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rusoopE · Post #20 » by **rusoopE** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 11:16 pm

drsd wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:I don't think anybody could have predicted that he would have developed as well as he has. He looked like scrub up until Brooklyn gave him minutes.

From NBA reference:

Transactions
June 23, 2011: Traded by the Orlando Magic (as a future 2014 2nd round draft pick) with a 2013 2nd round draft pick (Allen Crabbe was later selected) to the Cleveland Cavaliers for Justin Harper.

June 26, 2014: Drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers in the 2nd round (33rd pick) of the 2014 NBA Draft.

July 22, 2014: Signed a multi-year contract with the Cleveland Cavaliers

January 20, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 21, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 24, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 25, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 27, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 28, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 29, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

February 2, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

February 5, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

February 8, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

February 12, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

February 18, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

March 20, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

March 23, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

March 31, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 1, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 3, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 10, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 13, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 15, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 18, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

April 20, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 13, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 19, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 20, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 21, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 28, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

November 30, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

December 2, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

December 17, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

December 19, 2015: Assigned to the Canton Charge of the G-League.

December 20, 2015: Recalled from the Canton Charge of the G-League.

January 12, 2016: Traded by the Cleveland Cavaliers with cash considerations and a 2017 2nd round draft pick to the Orlando Magic for a 2020 2nd round draft pick. (2017 2nd-Rd Pick was protected pick from SAC and did not convey) (2020 2nd-rd pick is protected pick from POR)

January 12, 2016: Waived by the Orlando Magic.

Really hard to see that the Magic made any mistakes here.

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Omg canton charge is more doubtful than any girl I met

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