2019 Draft Discussion - Suns with 6th pick!

WeekapaugGroove · Post #381 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:33 am

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This angle is absurd.

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YouTube · Post #382 » by **Kerrsed** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:20 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:This angle is absurd.

The fact that the shooter has ball in hand behind the point line while Zion is still in the middle of the paint, and he STILL was able to close out and block the shot, i mean that is just simply amazing! Thats not even mentioning the fact that he did so without fouling the guy by flying into him from the jump, its just absurd. Zion is going to be amazing in the NBA.

Great games all around for the Duke Big 3, but Zion always seems to stand out. Plenty of times i saw where he could have grabbed a rebound or two, but instead decided to let someone else grab it while he blocked out the opposing teams rebounders, something i noticed Ayton has started doing more of.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #383 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:30 am

Kerrsed wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:This angle is absurd.

The fact that the shooter has ball in hand behind the point line while Zion is still in the middle of the paint, and he STILL was able to close out and block the shot, i mean that is just simply amazing! Thats not even mentioning the fact that he did so without fouling the guy by flying into him from the jump, its just absurd. Zion is going to be amazing in the NBA.

Great games all around for the Duke Big 3, but Zion always seems to stand out. Plenty of times i saw where he could have grabbed a rebound or two, but instead decided to let someone else grab it while he blocked out the opposing teams rebounders, something i noticed Ayton has started doing more of.

His combination of quick twitch, power, and spring is off the damn charts. Seriously I've never seen anything like it. Then when you add in his bbiq his upside is so tantalizing.

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Post #384 » by **bwgood77** » Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:47 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:This angle is absurd.

The fact that the shooter has ball in hand behind the point line while Zion is still in the middle of the paint, and he STILL was able to close out and block the shot, i mean that is just simply amazing! Thats not even mentioning the fact that he did so without fouling the guy by flying into him from the jump, its just absurd. Zion is going to be amazing in the NBA.

Great games all around for the Duke Big 3, but Zion always seems to stand out. Plenty of times i saw where he could have grabbed a rebound or two, but instead decided to let someone else grab it while he blocked out the opposing teams rebounders, something i noticed Ayton has started doing more of.
His combination of quick twitch, power, and spring is off the damn charts. Seriously I've never seen anything like it. Then when you add in his bbiq his upside is so tantalizing.

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He is a beast. I don't watch him a lot but you can just see the heart, energy and mentality to win inside of him. I was thinking the other day about Jimmy Butler and Joel Embiid and in my head compared them to Booker and Ayton, and it just made me feel like we were so soft without a lot of heart in comparison.

It's safe to say I wouldn't be feeling that way with Zion.

SlovenianDragon · Post #385 » by **SlovenianDragon** » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:59 am

I still want Coby White if we don't get a top two pick we can trade down for a PF and select Coby White.

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WeekapaugGroove · Post #386 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:57 pm

Ringer Big Board https://www.theringer.com/nba/2019/2/20/18232463/2019-nba-draft-big-board-february

Culver at 2 is a surprise.

Post #387 » by **bwgood77** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:10 pm

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Blonde · Post #388 » by **Blonde** » Wed Feb 20, 2019 9:39 pm

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This board would have an aneurysm if we drafted Barrett but I’m super high on him. I’d rather have him than Josh/TJ/Oubre pretty easily. Maybe Bridges too but that’s hard to say because they play such different roles.

RJ is legitmately a complete offensive package - his shooting percentages aren’t flashy right now but he’s got a beautiful stroke and a number of moves to get his shot off. NBA spacing will open his game up to another level. As a secondary playmaker you really can’t ask for much better from a prospect, but I think he has primary playmaker capabilities. He’s got the physical attributes to be a monster defender - 6’7 with a 6’10 wingspan, athletic, wiry strong but with broad shoulders and a frame to out weight on.

It’s hard to figure out how he’d work on this roster given he’s a 2/3, but I don’t really care. I’d be extremely hesitant to trade out of the second pick if we landed there because RJ is a great prospect who is getting downplayed because of the narrative around Zion. Plus he’s Nash’s godson so I’m sure that would have some appeal in Phoenix.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #389 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:07 am

Oh the basketball ball gods can just **** right off if Zion seriously hurt his knee. Come on

No matter what is wrong he shouldn't play another minute of college basketball.

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TheLogician · Post #390 » by **TheLogician** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:15 am

Barrett is Wiggins with JJ's playmaking ability. He's also a weak defender. I'd trade down/out if we can't get Zion.

Frank Lee · Post #391 » by **Frank Lee** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:28 am

He blew out a shoe.... I mean, like b l e w i t o u t
.... back to the drawing board NIKE

WeekapaugGroove · Post #392 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:11 am

TheLogician wrote:Barrett is Wiggins with JJ's playmaking ability. He's also a weak defender. I'd trade down/out if we can't get Zion.

Yeah Barrett isn't my favorite prospect. It's funny too since scouts absolutely loved him prior to coming to college.

There's probably 5-6 guys I'd take over him right now.

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Post #393 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 4:39 am

Sucks to see Zion getting hurt. But at the same time, this dude is just not human. From the indenting of the basketball with his fingers to now blowing out a pair of Nike's, the guy is superhuman

Fo-Real · Post #394 » by **Fo-Real** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:29 pm

Zion clearly cant even keep his damn shoes on, PASS!!! Cant draft that guy!!! (green font)

WeekapaugGroove · Post #395 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:55 pm

Another reason I'd like to see Zion sit the rest of the year is I'd like to see Barrett and Reddish without him. Curious if they would step their games up.

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Bogyo · Post #396 » by **Bogyo** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:24 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Another reason I'd like to see Zion sit the rest of the year is I'd like to see Barrett and Reddish without him. Curious if they would step their games up.

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And if they would, it would be easier for us to trade our pick for an established player instead of another rookie wing - unless we let Oubre go and trade TJ/JJ for the aforementioned established player. Then it would be good info who to draft if we fall 2nd to 4th, and we don't take Morant.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #397 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 8:46 pm

Bogyo wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:Another reason I'd like to see Zion sit the rest of the year is I'd like to see Barrett and Reddish without him. Curious if they would step their games up.

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And if they would, it would be easier for us to trade our pick for an established player instead of another rookie wing - unless we let Oubre go and trade TJ/JJ for the aforementioned established player. Then it would be good info who to draft if we fall 2nd to 4th, and we don't take Morant.

Sure. Barrett is the guy who if he had a really strong ending to the year some team could fall in love with him and try to move up. As of right now I kind of like Reddish more because I think he's safer.

I'm totally down to trade the pick. But if they think any wing can be great I wouldn't let guys like Jackson, Oubre or even Warren get in the way. Drafting for need in the top 5 is dumb. Take the best guy and work it out with trades.

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bigfoot · Post #398 » by **bigfoot** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:28 pm

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This board would have an aneurysm if we drafted Barrett but I’m super high on him. I’d rather have him than Josh/TJ/Oubre pretty easily. Maybe Bridges too but that’s hard to say because they play such different roles.

RJ is legitmately a complete offensive package - his shooting percentages aren’t flashy right now but he’s got a beautiful stroke and a number of moves to get his shot off. NBA spacing will open his game up to another level. As a secondary playmaker you really can’t ask for much better from a prospect, but I think he has primary playmaker capabilities. He’s got the physical attributes to be a monster defender - 6’7 with a 6’10 wingspan, athletic, wiry strong but with broad shoulders and a frame to out weight on.

It’s hard to figure out how he’d work on this roster given he’s a 2/3, but I don’t really care. I’d be extremely hesitant to trade out of the second pick if we landed there because RJ is a great prospect who is getting downplayed because of the narrative around Zion. Plus he’s Nash’s godson so I’m sure that would have some appeal in Phoenix.

Luka was playing against NBA players since he was 14 and 15 too. He was too worthless to draft with too many flaws. This is just part of the RJ hype machine. We don't need another freaking worthless wing on this team.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #399 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 9:59 pm

The best under the radar sharpshooters we should look at in the 2nd round:

1- Fletcher McGee (Wofford). He's a 6'4 200 lb. Guard averaging 49% on his fgs, 43% on his threes, and around 91% on his free throws as well. He's a lethal shooter, pretty much anywhere on the floor.

https://youtu.be/CHHkpoIHqqM . 36 points/ 8 threes.

https://youtu.be/mMOkWez-hjs . 45 points/ 11 threes.

https://youtu.be/pjblw1QIZH4 . 9 of 10 from 3 vs. VMI. He's a rich man's reddick, or a hybrid of Eddie house and mark price. And he's got some bounce too.
https://youtu.be/1Wi5GP6R9AU .

2- Tyler Herro - a 6'5 195 lb. Guard.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyler-herro-1.html .

He's averaging 52% on his fgs, 35% on his threes, and 92% on his free throws.

https://youtu.be/Svbc35qaXGs . 45 points.

https://youtu.be/LysgZTwoZ98 .

3- Mike Daum He's a 6'9 235 lb. power forward who played for South Dakota state. He's been averaging 58% on his fgs, 35% of his threes, and 82% of his free throws.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/mike-daum-1.html .

https://youtu.be/L6iFutTTdc0.

https://youtu.be/mZV_pNASd80 . 51 points. He's a bit lumbering for a big man, but he's good overall offensively, and a decent 3 point shooter as well.

** International Prospects **:

1- Luka Samanic:He's a 6'11 220 lbs. Power forward who's averaging 51% on his fgs, 38% on his threes, and 72% on his free throws. He's good good athleticism, is fluid and a good perimeter defender.

He's not a bad choice for a stretch 4 in the 2nd round.

https://youtu.be/vxWchEpXe4g .

https://youtu.be/NwnAhs1N3ug .

2- Borisa Simanic-: He's a 6'11 215 lb. Power forward that's averaging 63% on his fgs, 35% on his threes, and 75% of his free throws.

https://youtu.be/RVKypphcbKI .

3- Deividis Sirvydis-a 6'8 190 lb. Shooting guard- He's averaging 50% on his fgs, 41% on his threes, and 73% on his free throws.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/deividas-sirvydis-1.html .

https://youtu.be/bEkHYWbMvXM .

https://youtu.be/TspalvUwNtc .

4- Kostja Mushidi- : A 6'5 guard (Belgian) 225 lbs. Who is kind of a mix of Malcolm Brogdon and Andre Miller. Or a P.J. Tucker defensively in the form of a guard.

https://youtu.be/20xD__7XwNU .

https://youtu.be/-5H3vFnq44w .

bigfoot · Post #400 » by **bigfoot** » Thu Feb 21, 2019 10:04 pm

Ghost of Kleine wrote:The best under the radar sharpshooters we should look at in the 2nd round:

1- Fletcher McGee(Wofford). He's averaging 49% on his fgs, 43% on his threes, and around 91% on his free throws as well. He's a lethal shooter, pretty much anywhere on the floor.

https://youtu.be/CHHkpoIHqqM . 36 points/ 8 threes.

https://youtu.be/mMOkWez-hjs . 45 points/ 11 threes.

https://youtu.be/pjblw1QIZH4 . 9 of 10 from 3 vs. VMI. He's a rich man's reddick, or a hybrid of Eddie house and mark price. And he's got some bounce too.
https://youtu.be/1Wi5GP6R9AU .

2- Tyler Herro- a 6'5 195 lb. Guard.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/tyler-herro-1.html .

He's averaging 52% on his fgs, 35% on his threes, and 92% on his free throws.

https://youtu.be/Svbc35qaXGs . 45 points.

https://youtu.be/LysgZTwoZ98 .

3- Mike Daum- He's a 6'9 235 lb. power forward who played for South Dakota state. He's been averaging 58% on his fgs, 35% of his threes, and 82% of his free throws.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/mike-daum-1.html .

https://youtu.be/L6iFutTTdc0.

https://youtu.be/mZV_pNASd80 . 51 points. He's a bit lumbering for a big man, but he's good overall offensively, and a decent 3 point shooter as well.

** FOREIGN PROSPECTS **:

1- Luka Samanic: He's a 6'11 220 lbs. Power forward who's averaging 51% on his fgs, 38% on his threes, and 72% on his free throws. He's good good athleticism, is fluid and a good perimeter defender.

He's not a bad choice for a stretch 4 in the 2nd round.

https://youtu.be/vxWchEpXe4g .

https://youtu.be/NwnAhs1N3ug .

2- Boris Simanic: He's a 6'11 215 lb. Power forward that's averaging 63% on his fgs, 35% on his threes, and 75% of his free throws.

https://youtu.be/RVKypphcbKI .

3- Deividis Sirvydis- a 6'8 190 lb. Shooting guard- He's averaging 50% on his fgs, 41% on his threes, and 73% on his free throws.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/euro/players/deividas-sirvydis-1.html .

https://youtu.be/bEkHYWbMvXM .

https://youtu.be/TspalvUwNtc .

4- Kostja Mushidi : A 6'5 guard (Belgian) 225 lbs. Who is kind of a mix of Malcolm Brogdon and Andre Miller. Or a P.J. Tucker defensively in the form of a guard.

https://youtu.be/20xD__7XwNU .

https://youtu.be/-5H3vFnq44w .

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We should be trading away all of our 2nd round picks for veterans. We don't need any more young projects.