Mavs 2019 Draft discussion

[Pointguard01]

(1) Drummond is not someone we (or anyone) should ever trade for.

(2) Yes, you take Zion and don't think twice

(3) KP is a center. Zion is a PF. That lineup won't work.

(3) Dallas is either going to get a top 3 pick or they will forfeit it to ATL. We won't finish with a bottom 5 record, so we will have to rely on the lottery balls moving us up. It's actually the best case scenario, as there aren't really 3 guys in the draft worth taking that high, much less 5. Now, its very unlikely we get to be in the Top-3, but getting the 4th or 5th pick isn't happening.

[SOUNDCHASER]

we are probably going to draft around 42 or so in the 2nd round and if we sign a big in free agency I tend to think in terms of getting a backup center as well in Udo Azabuike just because we already have the following on our team.

I see the need for a big center and Udo is a big body that can lay some body on the other teams best big and keep them working hard on the offensive end. If he can do what he is doing at Kansas then we get a steal. When Zion is playing we have another big that can match up on him who can enjoy a size advantage in terms of height and also be solid enough to resist his bulk better.

Nobody is going to push the mavs around on the interior and when Vuc is out and we have KP in there then a big banger is something nice to have when we are stretching the defense with a threat like KP. Luka can find him open under the basket and get us an inside out game going while Vuc is resting. Now if Vuc is signing somewhere else then we definitely need a center in the draft.

We might keep JJB and have 4 PG's Luka can play as a 3 some so we have that option and can use Burke or Brunson along with JJB at the 1 and with another year of seasoning Brunson could be giving us greatly improved production.

PG Luka Burke Brunson JJB
SG THJ Lee Ryan
SF DFS Jackson
PF KP Powell Kleber
C Vucevic Udo Mejri

If Kostas is ready we can trade Powell.

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Udoka Azubuike had a hand injury but if he was not injured he would probably go earlier in the first round so its a bit of luck kind of like Motley falling to us when he was picked up. I assume that we will get Vucevic in FA and so we still really lack a true big body that can bang on the other teams bigs and be the punisher who we just send in there to foul the other teams big scoring threat and wear them down.
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/01/06/udoka-azubuike-hand-injury-surgery-season-over-kansas

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Adding Udo would also allow us to play this song as his song,

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the singers name is Udo

[J_T]

If Kostas is ready we can trade Powell.

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Someone go to the main board and post "Will Kostas be better than Marvin Bagley III?"

I dare you.

BTW, it's shocking to me that he is 16% for 3P. The way he was "shooting" before the draft, it looked like his uncontested 3P% was 5% max, probably lower.

[RebelWithACause]

Mavs should go hard after Joshua Obiesie in the draft.
6’6 18 year old, german combo guard, lefty, good shooter, creative playmaker, gets to the rim.

Would compliment Luka really well.

[jpengland]

(1) Drummond is not someone we (or anyone) should ever trade for.

(2) Yes, you take Zion and don't think twice

(3) KP is a center. Zion is a PF. That lineup won't work.

(3) Dallas is either going to get a top 3 pick or they will forfeit it to ATL. We won't finish with a bottom 5 record, so we will have to rely on the lottery balls moving us up. It's actually the best case scenario, as there aren't really 3 guys in the draft worth taking that high, much less 5. Now, its very unlikely we get to be in the Top-3, but getting the 4th or 5th pick isn't happening.

Lottery has changed. We could get the 4th pick from our current seeding.

It's something like..

1 or 2 around 4% chance each
3 or 4 around 5% chance each
9th (current seeding) Around 50%
10 - 15%
11, 12, 13 - whatever is left in decreasing amounts.

[Pointguard01]

Yeah you are right. I heard that on a podcast recently, too.

Would be great to get a top 4 pick. If we did, and had 2 of our 3 core players on rookie deals (Luka, KP & the theoretical draft pick), we could go big on another player on a big 3-year deal, whether it was via trade or free agency.

[jpengland]

I'd love to get RJ Barrett. He will be a better pro than Williamson and would fit tremendously with Luka.

[J_T]

I'd pick RJ over Zion. Of course there is no way any GM in the league would do that.

[Bob8]

I'd pick RJ over Zion. Of course there is no way any GM in the league would do that.

This’s nonsense, because you can trade first pick for a star and few future first. Zion’s trade value is very near to AD’s trade value.

[J_T]

I'd pick RJ over Zion. Of course there is no way any GM in the league would do that.

This’s nonsense, because you can trade first pick for a star and few future first. Zion’s trade value is very near to AD’s trade value.

Yeah, that's true. What I meant was that I'd rather have him on the team.

[Darren]

I'd pick RJ over Zion. Of course there is no way any GM in the league would do that.

I'd rather trade down for Ja Morant and Cam Reddish if possible. Surely, the Mavs needs any athletic freak and speed on open court. I think Kosta would be looked back and considered a lottery pick at 2018 draft.

[juanc]

Deandre Hunter is a match made in heaven for luka and KP if you ask me...

[jpengland]

I'd pick RJ over Zion. Of course there is no way any GM in the league would do that.

Agreed entirely. The hype around Zion is ridiculous IMO. He's undoubtedly a beast, but he also is't that skilled, his physical abilities won't be so much of an advantage in the NBA and perhaps most importantly that frame, propensity for weight gain around the middle, playstyle and landing does not bode well for long term health in lower joints and back. If we and the number one pick, somehow, then I would be looking to trade down for Barrett, or Reddish and pick up another big time asset from a team convinced that ZIon is the second coming of LeBron.

[Bob8]

I'd pick RJ over Zion. Of course there is no way any GM in the league would do that.

Agreed entirely. The hype around Zion is ridiculous IMO. He's undoubtedly a beast, but he also is't that skilled, his physical abilities won't be so much of an advantage in the NBA and perhaps most importantly that frame, propensity for weight gain around the middle, playstyle and landing does not bode well for long term health in lower joints and back. If we and the number one pick, somehow, then I would be looking to trade down for Barrett, or Reddish and pick up another big time asset from a team convinced that ZIon is the second coming of LeBron.

You don’t trade back, you just trade the pick for a star, some good players and future firsts. Zion has very similar trade value to AD. Zion is like finding a treasure on your backyard. Mavs can be contenders in few years with that kind of luck. This years lottery is special, there is 1 huge winning ticket and many teams with similar (bad) odds.

[Darren]

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matisse-thybulle-1.html

6-5 swingman with 7-0 wingspan and explosive athleticism. Averages 5 SPG and 3 BPG per 40 mins. Do not need the ball in hands at all. Decent shooting performance. Any interest? Kosta and Thybulle could potentially shutdown everything. I think the Mavs could actually get to the draft range by taking on salary. Is it worth it? But that's potentially a great fit to the roster. Disruptive defenders with great physical tools and outstanding athleticism is always welcomed by the Mavs.

[Darren]

For example, I think the Mavs is interested in 21M TE for George Hill, DiVincenzo (3D player who hasn't met the hypes yet) and right to Thybulle (#30 potentially top-notch defender at 1-3).

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/donte-divincenzo
http://www.tankathon.com/players/matisse-thybulle

Then, the Mavs wait for 2020. I think Divincenzo will replace Ryan moving forward. Then, Hill starts with Hardaway off bench. And the Mavs buyout Courtney or trade for something.

C - Kleber (w/ TO in 2020) / Dirk (MIN) / Mejri (MIN)
PF - Zinger / Powell / Kosta
SF - DFS (w/ TO in 2020) / Justin / Divincenzo
SG - Luka / Hardaway / Thybulle
PG - Hill / Brunson / Harris or Barea

(Or buyout Hill and re-sign Barea)

The Mavs could also move Justin for a big in draft.

[Darren]

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I think the Mavs are better off taking back salary for late 1st to draft a defensive specialist. If the Mavs gets a top-5 pick, I think highly of trading for Drummond and lottery pick.

[realEAST]

Hypothetical scenario: Dallas end up with pick #2, Hawks get #6 - would you swap picks with Hawks, if it meant extingusihng future pick obligations (kind of reversing last summer's trade)?
Would Hawks do it?

[Archx]

Hypothetical scenario: Dallas end up with pick #2, Hawks get #6 - would you swap picks with Hawks, if it meant extingusihng future pick obligations (kind of reversing last summer's trade)?
Would Hawks do it?

Mavs FO said that they don't want to rebuild through draft anymore, so i guess it's fair to say that they see no reason to get more draft picks. And having nr2 spot in this years draft would be quite OK in my opinion.

[juanc]

Hypothetical scenario: Dallas end up with pick #2, Hawks get #6 - would you swap picks with Hawks, if it meant extingusihng future pick obligations (kind of reversing last summer's trade)?
Would Hawks do it?

I would trade it to Phoenix for their nr. 5(Deandre Hunter) and Mikal Bridges